<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Uncharted Territories]]></title><description><![CDATA[Understand the world of today to prepare for the world of tomorrow: AI, tech, longevity, fertility, the future of democracy, energy, education, and more]]></description><link>https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4QUy!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc92decb6-7c5c-4053-bc05-651e5548e9b3_1280x1280.png</url><title>Uncharted Territories</title><link>https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 28 May 2026 16:00:05 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><copyright><![CDATA[Tomas Pueyo]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[unchartedterritories@substack.com]]></webMaster><itunes:owner><itunes:email><![CDATA[unchartedterritories@substack.com]]></itunes:email><itunes:name><![CDATA[Tomas Pueyo]]></itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author><![CDATA[Tomas Pueyo]]></itunes:author><googleplay:owner><![CDATA[unchartedterritories@substack.com]]></googleplay:owner><googleplay:email><![CDATA[unchartedterritories@substack.com]]></googleplay:email><googleplay:author><![CDATA[Tomas Pueyo]]></googleplay:author><itunes:block><![CDATA[Yes]]></itunes:block><item><title><![CDATA[The Criminal, Social, and Economic Cost of Immigrants in the EU]]></title><description><![CDATA[There&#8217;s been a huge backlash against immigration in the West recently.]]></description><link>https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-criminal-socialm-and-economic</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-criminal-socialm-and-economic</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomas Pueyo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2026 12:03:01 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4ueE!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac75d8de-d446-489b-961e-9b2542ba22ec_1600x1308.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s been a huge backlash against immigration in the West recently. In the UK, anti-immigration protests have taken place:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HMtB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0979551d-a7bf-4154-8d4f-d9ef4ba91315_1600x898.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HMtB!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0979551d-a7bf-4154-8d4f-d9ef4ba91315_1600x898.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HMtB!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0979551d-a7bf-4154-8d4f-d9ef4ba91315_1600x898.png 848w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Image from a recent UK demonstration against immigration</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>The UK Prime Minister is actively trying to display an image of toughness against immigration&#8212;and failing:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kKHM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6415c15b-3046-4d00-a527-758a43928132_1174x1120.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kKHM!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6415c15b-3046-4d00-a527-758a43928132_1174x1120.png 424w, 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stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Across Europe, people support policies to stop and revert immigration.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K_8w!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c8623db-a0e6-4732-8f03-e46277eb682b_1600x650.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K_8w!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c8623db-a0e6-4732-8f03-e46277eb682b_1600x650.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The Danish socialist prime minister implemented a <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1mgkd93r4yo">zero asylum</a> policy and is <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1mgkd93r4yo">toughening deportation laws</a>. A Dutch party in the ruling coalition is pushing for <a href="https://apnews.com/article/netherlands-wilders-asylum-seekers-government-980e3d47fa57ed490ae71609b4afd642">sweeping anti-immigrant rules</a>. But most governments are not acting as fast as public opinion is asking, so right-wing parties around Europe are gaining traction and are becoming front-runners</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jsKp!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F41a25d6e-d826-41d0-a412-1cc7e31417db_1465x1277.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jsKp!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F41a25d6e-d826-41d0-a412-1cc7e31417db_1465x1277.png 424w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jsKp!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F41a25d6e-d826-41d0-a412-1cc7e31417db_1465x1277.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jsKp!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F41a25d6e-d826-41d0-a412-1cc7e31417db_1465x1277.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jsKp!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F41a25d6e-d826-41d0-a412-1cc7e31417db_1465x1277.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Source: Tomas Pueyo for Uncharted Territories, data gathered by Claude.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>But the EU has had plenty of immigration for decades, since Schengen opened border movement, and despite some initial fear, it turned out quite well. What happened? A lot of the immigration came from within the EU, but now the vast majority is from outside. Of them, the biggest group is Muslims, at 40%.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> This is causing friction:</p><ul><li><p>Austria has <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn4djk0jj4xo">banned headscarves</a> for girls below 14.</p></li><li><p>German Chancellor Merz vowed to <a href="https://www.dw.com/en/german-government-pushes-syrian-refugees-to-return-to-war-torn-homeland/a-75901370">expel</a> 80% of the 1M Syrians currently living in Germany within three years.</p></li><li><p>Even in the US, which doesn&#8217;t receive a particularly high amount of Muslim immigrants, President Trump called Somalian immigrants <a href="https://apnews.com/article/trump-garbage-somalia-minneapolis-immigrant-omar-03e31bba53519d8a39b419679a3b75d9">garbage</a> and signed an <a href="https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IN12631">expanded travel ban</a>, applicable to many from the Middle East and Africa.</p></li></ul><p>When you read the media, social media, and talk on the street, the main complaints you hear are the social and economic costs: Immigrants cause more crime and more terrorism, they destroy social cohesion, work less, and consume much more welfare. Are these claims true? For which immigrants?</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-criminal-socialm-and-economic?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-criminal-socialm-and-economic?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><h1>1. The Social Costs</h1><p>As we discussed in <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/what-immigrants-should-the-west-accept">the previous article</a>, the social costs of immigration can be crime, terrorism, native flight, and the loss of social cohesion, so let&#8217;s look at each.</p><h2>Crime</h2><p>The most typical complaint I see people make is this:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RqUM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f3f78dd-5c25-42ef-bfa0-fd3cd252e96a_1600x1286.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RqUM!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f3f78dd-5c25-42ef-bfa0-fd3cd252e96a_1600x1286.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RqUM!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f3f78dd-5c25-42ef-bfa0-fd3cd252e96a_1600x1286.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RqUM!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f3f78dd-5c25-42ef-bfa0-fd3cd252e96a_1600x1286.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RqUM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f3f78dd-5c25-42ef-bfa0-fd3cd252e96a_1600x1286.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Source: Tomas Pueyo for Uncharted Territories, with <a href="https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/crim_off_cat__custom_21244391/default/table">data from Eurostat</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Indeed, while the EU population increased by less than 2% between 2014 and 2024, sexual assaults increased by 72%, rapes by 150%, sexual exploitation by 89%, attempted intentional homicides by 47%, and serious assaults by 45%. Violent crime has decreased, though: robberies by 33%, burglaries 15%, and theft by 22%.</p><p>So what&#8217;s going on?</p><p>This chart combines data for five European countries: Austria, Denmark, Finland, Germany, and Italy.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EEYA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb42c597-b224-4da7-a1dc-263e0d5df641_1600x1200.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EEYA!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb42c597-b224-4da7-a1dc-263e0d5df641_1600x1200.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EEYA!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb42c597-b224-4da7-a1dc-263e0d5df641_1600x1200.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EEYA!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb42c597-b224-4da7-a1dc-263e0d5df641_1600x1200.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EEYA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb42c597-b224-4da7-a1dc-263e0d5df641_1600x1200.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EEYA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb42c597-b224-4da7-a1dc-263e0d5df641_1600x1200.png" width="1600" height="1200" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/cb42c597-b224-4da7-a1dc-263e0d5df641_1600x1200.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1200,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EEYA!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb42c597-b224-4da7-a1dc-263e0d5df641_1600x1200.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EEYA!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb42c597-b224-4da7-a1dc-263e0d5df641_1600x1200.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EEYA!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb42c597-b224-4da7-a1dc-263e0d5df641_1600x1200.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EEYA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb42c597-b224-4da7-a1dc-263e0d5df641_1600x1200.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Clearly, immigrants from Muslim countries are overrepresented across most of these host countries. Let&#8217;s look at each one in turn.</p><h3>Germany</h3><p>These crime statistics were just released for Germany in 2025. This is how much more likely foreigners are to commit crime vs locals:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4ueE!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac75d8de-d446-489b-961e-9b2542ba22ec_1600x1308.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4ueE!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac75d8de-d446-489b-961e-9b2542ba22ec_1600x1308.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4ueE!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac75d8de-d446-489b-961e-9b2542ba22ec_1600x1308.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4ueE!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac75d8de-d446-489b-961e-9b2542ba22ec_1600x1308.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4ueE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac75d8de-d446-489b-961e-9b2542ba22ec_1600x1308.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4ueE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac75d8de-d446-489b-961e-9b2542ba22ec_1600x1308.png" width="1600" height="1308" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ac75d8de-d446-489b-961e-9b2542ba22ec_1600x1308.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1308,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4ueE!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac75d8de-d446-489b-961e-9b2542ba22ec_1600x1308.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4ueE!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac75d8de-d446-489b-961e-9b2542ba22ec_1600x1308.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4ueE!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac75d8de-d446-489b-961e-9b2542ba22ec_1600x1308.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4ueE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac75d8de-d446-489b-961e-9b2542ba22ec_1600x1308.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>I took total crime rates per country of origin from the German Police <a href="https://www.bka.de/EN/CurrentInformation/Statistics/PoliceCrimeStatistics/2025/pcs2025.html">here</a> (table T62, there are many, it&#8217;s confusing). I translated with Claude, but checked the numbers and they work. Note that people with double citizenship German-something else are counted as German, so this likely <strong>undercounts</strong> the crime rate of foreigners. I took the nationality of foreigners from the German stats organization DeStatis <a href="https://www-genesis.destatis.de/datenbank/online/statistic/12521/table/12521-0002/table-toolbar/search/s/MTI1MjE%3D">here</a> (also confusing, the right one is 12521-0002, and then you need to toggle to citizenship). Both are for 2025, so this should account for recent changes. I took first the per capita rate of crime for 4 different measures of crime: overall, murders, sexual crimes, and violent crimes. Note that overall includes the others, and that violent crimes include murders and some sexual crimes. I then took the ratio of each of these rates of crime to Germany&#8217;s rate. Then I took an average of the four. So this is basically taking overall crime per capita relative to Germans, but overweighting violent crime, sex crimes, and murder.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Algerians in Germany are <strong>26x</strong> more prone to crime than the average German. 13 other Muslim-majority nationalities are at least 5x more criminal than the average German. Only one non-Muslim majority meets that requirement (Georgia).</p><p>If you break the numbers down by pickpocketing, sex crimes, murder, and overall crime rate, this is what you get:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!53W4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcab42b79-0872-4d94-850b-ecb966f1fa2f_1600x1137.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!53W4!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcab42b79-0872-4d94-850b-ecb966f1fa2f_1600x1137.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!53W4!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcab42b79-0872-4d94-850b-ecb966f1fa2f_1600x1137.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!53W4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcab42b79-0872-4d94-850b-ecb966f1fa2f_1600x1137.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!53W4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcab42b79-0872-4d94-850b-ecb966f1fa2f_1600x1137.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!53W4!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcab42b79-0872-4d94-850b-ecb966f1fa2f_1600x1137.png" width="1200" height="852.75" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/cab42b79-0872-4d94-850b-ecb966f1fa2f_1600x1137.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:1137,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!53W4!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcab42b79-0872-4d94-850b-ecb966f1fa2f_1600x1137.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!53W4!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcab42b79-0872-4d94-850b-ecb966f1fa2f_1600x1137.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!53W4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcab42b79-0872-4d94-850b-ecb966f1fa2f_1600x1137.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!53W4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcab42b79-0872-4d94-850b-ecb966f1fa2f_1600x1137.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>An interesting fact is that Sweden appears in the Top 20 murdering nationalities in Germany. I dug into this and found 6 murders by Swedes in Germany in 2025. I tried to find out more details but couldn&#8217;t. What I did find, however, is <a href="https://www.aklagare.se/en/for-the-media/press-releases/2025/november/indictment-for-preparation-of-a-terrorist-crime-in-sweden-and-attempted-murder-in-germany/">this report</a> from Sweden about Swedes attempting murder in Germany. They were of immigrant background and planned to do it in the name of the Islamic State. We&#8217;ll look at Swedish crime later, but essentially, this suggests that these are immigrants with Swedish background.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><br>As you can see, green (Muslim) is at the top of all the rankings, with special mention for the winner, Algeria, with the brutal record of one crime for every three Algerians <em>every year</em>. Algerians are ~1500x times more likely to be a pickpocket than Germans, to murder at 35x the rate of Germans, to commit 23x more crime overall, and are 8x more likely to commit sex crimes.</p><p>Your first reaction might be: <em>Yeah but that&#8217;s not because they&#8217;re Muslim; it&#8217;s because they&#8217;re poor.</em> That&#8217;s a good thought to have:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0AEB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1396ce49-72df-477f-9a41-908eb6aca5b5_1600x938.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Both of these axes are logarithmic. </em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Indeed immigrants from poor countries tend to commit more crime, but there&#8217;s plenty of confounders: human capital, culture, education, age, sex, labor-market access&#8230; Some poor countries don&#8217;t commit any crime (eg Madagascar), and other countries with the same GDP per capita commit dramatically more crime (eg, Central African Republic).</p><p>So is it more the money, or the human capital from the country? A <a href="https://www.nber.org/papers/w34547">recent Finnish study</a> gave some random families $600/month for a couple of years and measured the impact on crime. It was 0%. <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305750X23003388">This paper</a> showed that the link between inequality and crime is basically zero. More inequality doesn&#8217;t mean more crime.</p><p>The trendlines on the graph suggest that immigrants from Muslim countries commit on average +50% crime vs those of other countries, but that might be because of more conflict in the origin countries (eg, Syria, Afghanistan, Somalia), more asylum seekers vs economic workers, the fact that a majority of them are men&#8230; Conversely, Indonesian and Malay immigrants tend to be Muslim too, but their crime rate is extremely low.</p><p>So both income and religion probably are part of the picture, but they&#8217;re definitely not the entire picture.</p><h3>Denmark</h3><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U7Hf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F605a72aa-03cc-48fc-98e7-28e395fabb43_835x897.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U7Hf!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F605a72aa-03cc-48fc-98e7-28e395fabb43_835x897.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U7Hf!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F605a72aa-03cc-48fc-98e7-28e395fabb43_835x897.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U7Hf!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F605a72aa-03cc-48fc-98e7-28e395fabb43_835x897.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U7Hf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F605a72aa-03cc-48fc-98e7-28e395fabb43_835x897.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U7Hf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F605a72aa-03cc-48fc-98e7-28e395fabb43_835x897.png" width="835" height="897" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/605a72aa-03cc-48fc-98e7-28e395fabb43_835x897.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:897,&quot;width&quot;:835,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dansk-pal%C3%A6stinensere">Apparently</a>, Kuwait and Lebanon here really mean Palestine, but since it&#8217;s not a recognized country in Denmark, immigrants from there <a href="https://integrationsbarometer.dk/tal-og-analyser/filer-tal-og-analyser/arkiv/NotatvedrrendekriminalitetenblandtMENAPT.pdf">can&#8217;t</a> be labeled Palestinian. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20230228045408/https://inquisitivebird.substack.com/p/the-effects-of-immigration-in-denmark">Source</a>.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Here, they corrected for age and sex of the immigrants.:</p><div 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oqvO!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc321086-7433-44a2-82b9-57fa4c33e216_1052x1253.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oqvO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc321086-7433-44a2-82b9-57fa4c33e216_1052x1253.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oqvO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc321086-7433-44a2-82b9-57fa4c33e216_1052x1253.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20230228045408/https://inquisitivebird.substack.com/p/the-effects-of-immigration-in-denmark">Source</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>As you can see, this does reduce the crime rate of immigrants vs the baseline, but doesn&#8217;t change the overall picture. This tells you that receiving young male immigrants, especially from crime-prone countries, is a way to dramatically increase the crime rate.</p><p><a href="https://www.ft.dk/samling/20171/almdel/uui/spm/127/svar/1449662/1829337/index.htm">This Danish report</a> showed that a few hundred Palestinians were accepted into Denmark in 1992 under a special law. Of them, about 64% had criminal records: 21% ended up in prison, and 43% got at least one large fine.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> About 59% were on welfare. Of their children, <a href="https://piopio.dk/palaestinensere-er-endt-i-kriminalitet-og-paa-offentlig-forsoergelse">34%</a> have been convicted of a crime, 13% received a prison sentence.</p><p>Here&#8217;s a breakdown per type of crime:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PTR5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc88bfedb-ae4e-4e8e-a4ec-f6d3fa0e0ba9_1600x1463.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PTR5!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc88bfedb-ae4e-4e8e-a4ec-f6d3fa0e0ba9_1600x1463.png 424w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PTR5!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc88bfedb-ae4e-4e8e-a4ec-f6d3fa0e0ba9_1600x1463.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PTR5!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc88bfedb-ae4e-4e8e-a4ec-f6d3fa0e0ba9_1600x1463.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PTR5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc88bfedb-ae4e-4e8e-a4ec-f6d3fa0e0ba9_1600x1463.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The Danish Parliament <a href="https://www.ft.dk/samling/20191/almdel/reu/spm/291/svar/1618048/2123368.pdf">looked at</a> the share of men born in 1987 who had been penally convicted of a crime by the time they were 30, and this is what it found:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2vGf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3465973e-25f0-4309-8125-b168faf1efab_1600x1453.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2vGf!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3465973e-25f0-4309-8125-b168faf1efab_1600x1453.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2vGf!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3465973e-25f0-4309-8125-b168faf1efab_1600x1453.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2vGf!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3465973e-25f0-4309-8125-b168faf1efab_1600x1453.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2vGf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3465973e-25f0-4309-8125-b168faf1efab_1600x1453.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2vGf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3465973e-25f0-4309-8125-b168faf1efab_1600x1453.png" width="1600" height="1453" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3465973e-25f0-4309-8125-b168faf1efab_1600x1453.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1453,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2vGf!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3465973e-25f0-4309-8125-b168faf1efab_1600x1453.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2vGf!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3465973e-25f0-4309-8125-b168faf1efab_1600x1453.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2vGf!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3465973e-25f0-4309-8125-b168faf1efab_1600x1453.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2vGf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3465973e-25f0-4309-8125-b168faf1efab_1600x1453.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>Sweden</h3><p>Sweden doesn&#8217;t have much data, but I was able to find some from the official <a href="https://bra.se/rapporter/arkiv/2021-08-25-misstankta-for-brott-bland-personer-med-inrikes-respektive-utrikes-bakgrund">Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention</a>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Udl_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F133bc3d9-8000-402d-a379-844248a4e839_1425x1390.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Udl_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F133bc3d9-8000-402d-a379-844248a4e839_1425x1390.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Udl_!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F133bc3d9-8000-402d-a379-844248a4e839_1425x1390.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Udl_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F133bc3d9-8000-402d-a379-844248a4e839_1425x1390.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Udl_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F133bc3d9-8000-402d-a379-844248a4e839_1425x1390.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Udl_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F133bc3d9-8000-402d-a379-844248a4e839_1425x1390.png" width="1425" height="1390" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/133bc3d9-8000-402d-a379-844248a4e839_1425x1390.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1390,&quot;width&quot;:1425,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Udl_!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F133bc3d9-8000-402d-a379-844248a4e839_1425x1390.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Udl_!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F133bc3d9-8000-402d-a379-844248a4e839_1425x1390.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Udl_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F133bc3d9-8000-402d-a379-844248a4e839_1425x1390.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Udl_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F133bc3d9-8000-402d-a379-844248a4e839_1425x1390.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>In Sweden, the share of foreign-born people <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Sweden">has grown</a> from 0.7% in 1990 to 20% today, of which about a third are from Muslim countries. <a href="https://bra.se/download/18.366598ab19270941a1c3955/1729256818286/2021_Tabellbilaga%201%20delstudie%201.pdf">Source</a> for the relevant table.</em></figcaption></figure></div><h3>Spain</h3><p>Spain is interesting because, unlike most other European countries, it attracts a much more diverse mix of immigrants.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nDyc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9dbf18f3-6aee-4fb4-b8b6-0f6a47d9189a_1395x1139.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nDyc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9dbf18f3-6aee-4fb4-b8b6-0f6a47d9189a_1395x1139.png" width="1395" height="1139" 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stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>However, in Spain, four of the top five most crime-prone countries of origin are Muslim.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x99R!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd58e31a4-69f2-4450-b13a-d5cfd660e6a4_1600x790.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x99R!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd58e31a4-69f2-4450-b13a-d5cfd660e6a4_1600x790.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x99R!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd58e31a4-69f2-4450-b13a-d5cfd660e6a4_1600x790.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x99R!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd58e31a4-69f2-4450-b13a-d5cfd660e6a4_1600x790.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x99R!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd58e31a4-69f2-4450-b13a-d5cfd660e6a4_1600x790.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x99R!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd58e31a4-69f2-4450-b13a-d5cfd660e6a4_1600x790.png" width="1200" height="592.5" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d58e31a4-69f2-4450-b13a-d5cfd660e6a4_1600x790.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:790,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x99R!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd58e31a4-69f2-4450-b13a-d5cfd660e6a4_1600x790.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x99R!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd58e31a4-69f2-4450-b13a-d5cfd660e6a4_1600x790.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x99R!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd58e31a4-69f2-4450-b13a-d5cfd660e6a4_1600x790.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x99R!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd58e31a4-69f2-4450-b13a-d5cfd660e6a4_1600x790.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Source: Tomas Pueyo for Uncharted Territories, based on <a href="https://www.interior.gob.es/opencms/pdf/archivos-y-documentacion/documentacion-y-publicaciones/publicaciones-descargables/instituciones-penitenciarias/informe-general/Informe-General_2024_12615039X_pdfWEB.pdf">data</a> from the Informe General 2024 de Estad&#237;stica General Clasificada de Poblaci&#243;n Penitenciaria de la Secretar&#237;a General de Instituciones Penitenciarias, via <a href="https://www.abc.es/espana/nacionalidad-extranjera-reclusos-carceles-espana-20241119131725-nt.html?ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.abc.es%2Fespana%2Fnacionalidad-extranjera-reclusos-carceles-espana-20241119131725-nt.html">this</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><h3>Finland</h3><p>Here&#8217;s what I found for Finland.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iurc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F28582033-cecc-4ffc-93a1-9de6ce054394_1009x1276.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iurc!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F28582033-cecc-4ffc-93a1-9de6ce054394_1009x1276.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iurc!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F28582033-cecc-4ffc-93a1-9de6ce054394_1009x1276.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iurc!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F28582033-cecc-4ffc-93a1-9de6ce054394_1009x1276.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iurc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F28582033-cecc-4ffc-93a1-9de6ce054394_1009x1276.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iurc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F28582033-cecc-4ffc-93a1-9de6ce054394_1009x1276.png" width="1009" height="1276" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/28582033-cecc-4ffc-93a1-9de6ce054394_1009x1276.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1276,&quot;width&quot;:1009,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iurc!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F28582033-cecc-4ffc-93a1-9de6ce054394_1009x1276.png 424w, 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stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Via <a href="https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000011024046.html">this</a>, which has a paywall so I couldn&#8217;t view it, but it was shared <a href="https://x.com/johnthenoticer/status/2042149853619184062?s=20">here</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><h3>Italy</h3><p>And for Italy:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KtAo!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08b3ec71-71ea-40b4-a054-e6df52b41900_1600x1067.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KtAo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08b3ec71-71ea-40b4-a054-e6df52b41900_1600x1067.png" width="1600" height="1067" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/08b3ec71-71ea-40b4-a054-e6df52b41900_1600x1067.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1067,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KtAo!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08b3ec71-71ea-40b4-a054-e6df52b41900_1600x1067.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KtAo!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08b3ec71-71ea-40b4-a054-e6df52b41900_1600x1067.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KtAo!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08b3ec71-71ea-40b4-a054-e6df52b41900_1600x1067.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KtAo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08b3ec71-71ea-40b4-a054-e6df52b41900_1600x1067.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://x.com/jonatanpallesen/status/2048748818531815715?s=20">Source</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><h3>Norway</h3><p>In Norway:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zSeT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3ec075e-2b10-4112-873b-0a20fe7b2aaf_1600x1152.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zSeT!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3ec075e-2b10-4112-873b-0a20fe7b2aaf_1600x1152.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zSeT!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3ec075e-2b10-4112-873b-0a20fe7b2aaf_1600x1152.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zSeT!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3ec075e-2b10-4112-873b-0a20fe7b2aaf_1600x1152.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zSeT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3ec075e-2b10-4112-873b-0a20fe7b2aaf_1600x1152.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zSeT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3ec075e-2b10-4112-873b-0a20fe7b2aaf_1600x1152.png" width="1600" height="1152" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e3ec075e-2b10-4112-873b-0a20fe7b2aaf_1600x1152.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1152,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zSeT!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3ec075e-2b10-4112-873b-0a20fe7b2aaf_1600x1152.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zSeT!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3ec075e-2b10-4112-873b-0a20fe7b2aaf_1600x1152.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zSeT!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3ec075e-2b10-4112-873b-0a20fe7b2aaf_1600x1152.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zSeT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3ec075e-2b10-4112-873b-0a20fe7b2aaf_1600x1152.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>UK</h3><p>The UK doesn&#8217;t have much information, but a <a href="https://www.migrationcentral.co.uk/api/v1/file/f74dd9e3-465d-47ef-890a-1fff245c8bd8.xlsx">freedom of information request to the London Metropolitan Police</a> delivered <a href="https://www.migrationcentral.co.uk/api/v1/file/5f7711b3-9cbb-43cc-9135-3fb31403d022.xlsx">this data</a>:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i-N8!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feeca3e4c-3036-4894-ae28-09b7a50cfd9b_1504x1281.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i-N8!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feeca3e4c-3036-4894-ae28-09b7a50cfd9b_1504x1281.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i-N8!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feeca3e4c-3036-4894-ae28-09b7a50cfd9b_1504x1281.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i-N8!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feeca3e4c-3036-4894-ae28-09b7a50cfd9b_1504x1281.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i-N8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feeca3e4c-3036-4894-ae28-09b7a50cfd9b_1504x1281.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i-N8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feeca3e4c-3036-4894-ae28-09b7a50cfd9b_1504x1281.png" width="1504" height="1281" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/eeca3e4c-3036-4894-ae28-09b7a50cfd9b_1504x1281.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1281,&quot;width&quot;:1504,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i-N8!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feeca3e4c-3036-4894-ae28-09b7a50cfd9b_1504x1281.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i-N8!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feeca3e4c-3036-4894-ae28-09b7a50cfd9b_1504x1281.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i-N8!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feeca3e4c-3036-4894-ae28-09b7a50cfd9b_1504x1281.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i-N8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feeca3e4c-3036-4894-ae28-09b7a50cfd9b_1504x1281.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Another Freedom of Information request to English and Welsh police provided this data:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jw_j!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82ae15ed-a226-434f-bb9b-54bb80ddddde_1578x1804.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jw_j!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82ae15ed-a226-434f-bb9b-54bb80ddddde_1578x1804.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jw_j!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82ae15ed-a226-434f-bb9b-54bb80ddddde_1578x1804.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jw_j!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82ae15ed-a226-434f-bb9b-54bb80ddddde_1578x1804.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jw_j!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82ae15ed-a226-434f-bb9b-54bb80ddddde_1578x1804.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jw_j!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82ae15ed-a226-434f-bb9b-54bb80ddddde_1578x1804.png" width="1578" height="1804" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jw_j!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82ae15ed-a226-434f-bb9b-54bb80ddddde_1578x1804.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jw_j!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82ae15ed-a226-434f-bb9b-54bb80ddddde_1578x1804.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jw_j!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82ae15ed-a226-434f-bb9b-54bb80ddddde_1578x1804.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>I&#8217;m only showing the top 40 countries. 25 of them are Muslim. 9 of the top 10 are, too.</em></figcaption></figure></div><h3>Netherlands</h3><p>The Netherlands publishes crime data but not per country. There, non-EU immigrants are <a href="https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/maatwerk/2026/17/kenmerken-van-verdachten-en-slachtoffers-2023-maart-2026">4.5x</a> more crime-prone than the Dutch:<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> They are 15% of the population but commit ~40% of the crime.</p><p>Note that this problem does not seem to exist in the US. There, the share of Muslims is quite small, and most criminals are American (more likely to be criminal than the average immigrant). As you can see, wherever we look in Europe, there&#8217;s an overrepresentation of Muslim countries at the top of the crime lists. Controlling for age, sex, and income reduces this effect, but it remains strong. Immigrants in general commit much more crime than locals. Within immigrants, non-EU immigrants are much more crime prone. Within those, Muslim immigrants cause the most crime.</p><h2>Terrorism</h2><p>Terrorism data is harder to get because there&#8217;s less of it. But we do have some. Around the world, about 75% of terrorism deaths are caused by Islamism.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zcd1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0083abcf-94a6-4dd6-b510-b8eb5d8c3137_1326x1076.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zcd1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0083abcf-94a6-4dd6-b510-b8eb5d8c3137_1326x1076.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zcd1!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0083abcf-94a6-4dd6-b510-b8eb5d8c3137_1326x1076.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zcd1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0083abcf-94a6-4dd6-b510-b8eb5d8c3137_1326x1076.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zcd1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0083abcf-94a6-4dd6-b510-b8eb5d8c3137_1326x1076.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zcd1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0083abcf-94a6-4dd6-b510-b8eb5d8c3137_1326x1076.png" width="1326" height="1076" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zcd1!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0083abcf-94a6-4dd6-b510-b8eb5d8c3137_1326x1076.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zcd1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0083abcf-94a6-4dd6-b510-b8eb5d8c3137_1326x1076.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zcd1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0083abcf-94a6-4dd6-b510-b8eb5d8c3137_1326x1076.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>I asked Claude to look into the Global Terrorism Database and give me the topline results of Islamist terrorism. <a href="https://claude.ai/share/ec936bd9-68f8-4ca6-b236-a950fe6d9ea0">It told me</a> that 75% of global terrorism deaths in the world in 2023 were caused by Islamism, which has killed 250,000 people in 163 countries, with just four Islamist terrorist organizations accounting for the majority: Islamic State, Hamas, JNIM, and Al-Shabaab. </em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Here are terrorists in the US for the last 30 years, by type of terrorism.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QAzq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd254ab34-4111-4470-bcab-428942195ccb_1600x1122.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QAzq!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd254ab34-4111-4470-bcab-428942195ccb_1600x1122.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QAzq!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd254ab34-4111-4470-bcab-428942195ccb_1600x1122.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QAzq!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd254ab34-4111-4470-bcab-428942195ccb_1600x1122.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QAzq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd254ab34-4111-4470-bcab-428942195ccb_1600x1122.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QAzq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd254ab34-4111-4470-bcab-428942195ccb_1600x1122.png" width="1600" height="1122" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QAzq!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd254ab34-4111-4470-bcab-428942195ccb_1600x1122.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QAzq!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd254ab34-4111-4470-bcab-428942195ccb_1600x1122.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QAzq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd254ab34-4111-4470-bcab-428942195ccb_1600x1122.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Data from <a href="https://www.rieas.gr/images/TerrorismStudies/immigration9.pdf">here</a>, transcribed with Claude.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Here are security threat prosecutions in Germany in 2025.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hhv8!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F931582d3-b005-44dd-946c-9ac68a2a895f_1600x1363.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hhv8!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F931582d3-b005-44dd-946c-9ac68a2a895f_1600x1363.png 424w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hhv8!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F931582d3-b005-44dd-946c-9ac68a2a895f_1600x1363.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hhv8!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F931582d3-b005-44dd-946c-9ac68a2a895f_1600x1363.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hhv8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F931582d3-b005-44dd-946c-9ac68a2a895f_1600x1363.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>In the UK, Islamism accounts for <a href="https://hansard.parliament.uk/lords/2023-07-24/debates/03C258B1-5D37-4875-A575-204A0BFE9766/ContestUKStrategyForCounteringTerrorism2023">67%</a> of attacks since 2018, <a href="https://www.mi5.gov.uk/director-general-ken-mccallum-gives-latest-threat-update">75%</a> of terrorism investigation cases, and <a href="https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/88099/html/">90%</a> of convictions.</p><p>So I think we can all agree that the biggest threat in worldwide and European terrorism is Islamism, and it&#8217;s so stark that the 2<sup>nd</sup> most significant threat doesn&#8217;t even matter.</p><h2>Social Cohesion</h2><p>Several papers have found that <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0003122415577989">ethnic</a> <a href="https://www.annualreviews.org/content/journals/10.1146/annurev-soc-071913-043309">diversity</a> <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-9477.2007.00176.x">reduces</a> neighborhood <a href="https://books.google.es/books?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;id=1GeaMuG2Q8AC&amp;oi=fnd&amp;pg=PT8&amp;ots=n0cZKBAcjY&amp;sig=bsv3JUvLJpEq6Q-Lhnv8OZor4sk&amp;redir_esc=y#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false">trust</a> and <a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/249285682_The_Effect_of_Ethnic_Diversity_and_Community_Disadvantage_on_Social_Cohesion_A_MultiLevel_Analysis_of_Social_Capital_and_Interethnic_Relations_in_UK_Communities">social capital</a>, including <a href="https://www.annualreviews.org/content/journals/10.1146/annurev-polisci-052918-020708">this meta-analysis</a>, although the linchpin might not be diversity alone, <a href="https://academic.oup.com/esr/article/41/4/553/7914090">but</a> also <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0038038516641867">segregation</a>: If a certain ethnicity is concentrated in a small area, neighborhood trust and social capital will shrink.</p><p>Looking specifically at Muslims, <a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/357155086_Generalised_Trust_among_Second-Generation_Muslim_and_Non-Muslim_Minority_Groups_in_Europe">this paper</a> found that 2<sup>nd</sup> generation Muslim immigrants had lower trust than their non-Muslim counterparts, and that this was due to cultural transmission rather than discrimination or exclusion.</p><p>This graph looked not at the crime, but the feeling of safety in different communes in Denmark. It then compared it to the share of people of MENAPT (Middle East, North Africa, Pakistan, Turkey) origin.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bhJo!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7feeed57-8ff3-4c51-80db-b9533c389f1f_1600x1163.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bhJo!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7feeed57-8ff3-4c51-80db-b9533c389f1f_1600x1163.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bhJo!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7feeed57-8ff3-4c51-80db-b9533c389f1f_1600x1163.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bhJo!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7feeed57-8ff3-4c51-80db-b9533c389f1f_1600x1163.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bhJo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7feeed57-8ff3-4c51-80db-b9533c389f1f_1600x1163.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bhJo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7feeed57-8ff3-4c51-80db-b9533c389f1f_1600x1163.png" width="1600" height="1163" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7feeed57-8ff3-4c51-80db-b9533c389f1f_1600x1163.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1163,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bhJo!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7feeed57-8ff3-4c51-80db-b9533c389f1f_1600x1163.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bhJo!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7feeed57-8ff3-4c51-80db-b9533c389f1f_1600x1163.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bhJo!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7feeed57-8ff3-4c51-80db-b9533c389f1f_1600x1163.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bhJo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7feeed57-8ff3-4c51-80db-b9533c389f1f_1600x1163.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>This reflects the idea of lower trust in more diverse areas. <a href="https://x.com/KirkegaardEmil/status/2044970620052517324?s=20">Via this</a>. Note the Y axis though: It&#8217;s not like trust goes to zero, but the drop is substantial.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>There&#8217;s a real cost in social cohesion that is paid by immigration, whether that is due to Muslim immigration or that of others. In Europe, however, it&#8217;s more acute with Muslims.</p><p>Alright, let&#8217;s move to economics.</p><h1>2. The Economics</h1><h2>Employment</h2><p>Some Anglosphere countries manage to get immigrants to work more than natives, but that&#8217;s not the norm. In most countries, their unemployment is higher&#8212;in Sweden, foreign unemployment is an astonishing 2.5x the native level!</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3pmM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F92be3b53-1de5-45be-92f5-ea536882b647_1600x1416.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3pmM!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F92be3b53-1de5-45be-92f5-ea536882b647_1600x1416.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3pmM!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F92be3b53-1de5-45be-92f5-ea536882b647_1600x1416.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3pmM!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F92be3b53-1de5-45be-92f5-ea536882b647_1600x1416.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3pmM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F92be3b53-1de5-45be-92f5-ea536882b647_1600x1416.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3pmM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F92be3b53-1de5-45be-92f5-ea536882b647_1600x1416.png" width="1600" height="1416" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/92be3b53-1de5-45be-92f5-ea536882b647_1600x1416.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1416,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3pmM!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F92be3b53-1de5-45be-92f5-ea536882b647_1600x1416.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3pmM!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F92be3b53-1de5-45be-92f5-ea536882b647_1600x1416.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3pmM!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F92be3b53-1de5-45be-92f5-ea536882b647_1600x1416.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3pmM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F92be3b53-1de5-45be-92f5-ea536882b647_1600x1416.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>The bottom of this list represents the countries where unemployment is lowest for immigrants. They&#8217;re all part of the Anglosphere (US, Australia, Ireland, Canada, UK).</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>This immigration has many different origins, but when we zoom in to Muslims, the data holds (here, employment rate rather than unemployment rate).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!peU-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F845ecd05-7859-432a-8cf1-9be628c52194_1311x975.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!peU-!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F845ecd05-7859-432a-8cf1-9be628c52194_1311x975.png 424w, 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stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Those who are not immigrants are mostly 2nd generation immigrants, so these numbers capture the long-term unemployment of immigrants.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>One reason for these differences is regulatory. The US makes it easy for foreigners to start working immediately&#8212;they even penalize them if they don&#8217;t. Others make it very hard, and might even support not working by giving welfare&#8212;in some cases, at higher levels than to locals. This is important in the short term, but also the very long term, because the first months after arrival are crucial. If you establish yourself in a system where you have to work and you must meet and socialize with locals to do so, you&#8217;re more likely to be integrated and continue working. But if you can&#8217;t work, you&#8217;ll stay more with family and other compatriots, and you&#8217;ll get used to a lifestyle where you don&#8217;t have to work.</p><p>Another reason might be education. US Muslims are <em>more educated</em> than the average American.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GDEN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f6014ef-0c0e-4386-abd2-d57fb83daec0_918x802.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GDEN!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f6014ef-0c0e-4386-abd2-d57fb83daec0_918x802.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GDEN!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f6014ef-0c0e-4386-abd2-d57fb83daec0_918x802.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GDEN!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f6014ef-0c0e-4386-abd2-d57fb83daec0_918x802.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GDEN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f6014ef-0c0e-4386-abd2-d57fb83daec0_918x802.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GDEN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f6014ef-0c0e-4386-abd2-d57fb83daec0_918x802.png" width="566" height="494.479302832244" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6f6014ef-0c0e-4386-abd2-d57fb83daec0_918x802.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:802,&quot;width&quot;:918,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:566,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GDEN!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f6014ef-0c0e-4386-abd2-d57fb83daec0_918x802.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GDEN!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f6014ef-0c0e-4386-abd2-d57fb83daec0_918x802.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GDEN!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f6014ef-0c0e-4386-abd2-d57fb83daec0_918x802.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GDEN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f6014ef-0c0e-4386-abd2-d57fb83daec0_918x802.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/06/18/how-us-muslims-compare-with-other-americans-religiously-and-demographically/">Source</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>In part, this is because the US attracts high-education Muslim immigrants.</p><p>So that&#8217;s the destination effect. But the origin effect also matters.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-_5m!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ef9036c-d833-4411-983d-149f97831905_1600x978.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-_5m!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ef9036c-d833-4411-983d-149f97831905_1600x978.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-_5m!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ef9036c-d833-4411-983d-149f97831905_1600x978.png 848w, 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stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>We see similar data whenever we zoom in to specific countries.</p><h3>Norway</h3><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AStX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fecb3512b-e7da-4c42-aba9-d92b56bad248_1600x621.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AStX!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fecb3512b-e7da-4c42-aba9-d92b56bad248_1600x621.png 424w, 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stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://www.regjeringen.no/no/dokumenter/nou-2017-2/id2536701/">Source</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>We can see a breakdown of the problem from some data from Spain.</p><h3>Spain</h3><p>In Spain, where the vast majority of African immigrants are Muslim, their employment rate is substantially lower than that of locals or Latin American immigrants.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bofa!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F41015446-1063-48ce-8123-ba08dbdb48aa_1600x572.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bofa!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F41015446-1063-48ce-8123-ba08dbdb48aa_1600x572.png" width="1600" height="572" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/41015446-1063-48ce-8123-ba08dbdb48aa_1600x572.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:572,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://www.realinstitutoelcano.org/en/analyses/immigration-and-the-employment-market-in-spain-iii-africans/">Source</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>This is driven basically by the fact that Muslim women generally stay at home</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cf3v!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F59f3a253-9a35-4469-99b7-881da411b5c4_1600x867.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cf3v!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F59f3a253-9a35-4469-99b7-881da411b5c4_1600x867.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cf3v!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F59f3a253-9a35-4469-99b7-881da411b5c4_1600x867.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cf3v!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F59f3a253-9a35-4469-99b7-881da411b5c4_1600x867.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cf3v!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F59f3a253-9a35-4469-99b7-881da411b5c4_1600x867.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cf3v!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F59f3a253-9a35-4469-99b7-881da411b5c4_1600x867.png" width="1600" height="867" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/59f3a253-9a35-4469-99b7-881da411b5c4_1600x867.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:867,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cf3v!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F59f3a253-9a35-4469-99b7-881da411b5c4_1600x867.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cf3v!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F59f3a253-9a35-4469-99b7-881da411b5c4_1600x867.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cf3v!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F59f3a253-9a35-4469-99b7-881da411b5c4_1600x867.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cf3v!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F59f3a253-9a35-4469-99b7-881da411b5c4_1600x867.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This is the activity rate, which counts those with a job or looking for one. What if we look at actual work rates?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G_N6!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0dc51434-eb1a-4ee7-866d-1f4d881598ed_1600x1534.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G_N6!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0dc51434-eb1a-4ee7-866d-1f4d881598ed_1600x1534.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G_N6!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0dc51434-eb1a-4ee7-866d-1f4d881598ed_1600x1534.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G_N6!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0dc51434-eb1a-4ee7-866d-1f4d881598ed_1600x1534.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G_N6!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0dc51434-eb1a-4ee7-866d-1f4d881598ed_1600x1534.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G_N6!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0dc51434-eb1a-4ee7-866d-1f4d881598ed_1600x1534.png" width="1600" height="1534" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0dc51434-eb1a-4ee7-866d-1f4d881598ed_1600x1534.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1534,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G_N6!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0dc51434-eb1a-4ee7-866d-1f4d881598ed_1600x1534.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G_N6!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0dc51434-eb1a-4ee7-866d-1f4d881598ed_1600x1534.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G_N6!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0dc51434-eb1a-4ee7-866d-1f4d881598ed_1600x1534.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G_N6!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0dc51434-eb1a-4ee7-866d-1f4d881598ed_1600x1534.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Both men and women immigrants work less than natives. Muslim men work more than non-Muslim foreigners. But only 30% of Muslim women are employed!</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>The type of work also matters. The education rate of MENA (Middle East and North Africa) immigrants in Spain is substantially lower than that of locals or other immigrants.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bws0!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9692887e-68fe-4eb7-a63f-3cffe70e2637_1590x910.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bws0!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9692887e-68fe-4eb7-a63f-3cffe70e2637_1590x910.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bws0!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9692887e-68fe-4eb7-a63f-3cffe70e2637_1590x910.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bws0!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9692887e-68fe-4eb7-a63f-3cffe70e2637_1590x910.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bws0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9692887e-68fe-4eb7-a63f-3cffe70e2637_1590x910.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bws0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9692887e-68fe-4eb7-a63f-3cffe70e2637_1590x910.png" width="1590" height="910" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bws0!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9692887e-68fe-4eb7-a63f-3cffe70e2637_1590x910.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bws0!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9692887e-68fe-4eb7-a63f-3cffe70e2637_1590x910.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bws0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9692887e-68fe-4eb7-a63f-3cffe70e2637_1590x910.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>UK</h3><p>In the UK, Muslims are 2.2x less employed than the average of the population.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!C2Uu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc7658281-4433-4028-8c8e-7ccd4b67f388_949x1205.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!C2Uu!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc7658281-4433-4028-8c8e-7ccd4b67f388_949x1205.png 424w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c7658281-4433-4028-8c8e-7ccd4b67f388_949x1205.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1205,&quot;width&quot;:949,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:510,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!C2Uu!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc7658281-4433-4028-8c8e-7ccd4b67f388_949x1205.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!C2Uu!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc7658281-4433-4028-8c8e-7ccd4b67f388_949x1205.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!C2Uu!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc7658281-4433-4028-8c8e-7ccd4b67f388_949x1205.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!C2Uu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc7658281-4433-4028-8c8e-7ccd4b67f388_949x1205.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>And <em>unemployed</em> actually hides the true impact, because many who don&#8217;t work don&#8217;t appear in these statistics, if they&#8217;re not actively looking for a job.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iukK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d5d636a-b88c-48c2-9767-ece49cbe9ed6_1496x1436.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iukK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d5d636a-b88c-48c2-9767-ece49cbe9ed6_1496x1436.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iukK!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d5d636a-b88c-48c2-9767-ece49cbe9ed6_1496x1436.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iukK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d5d636a-b88c-48c2-9767-ece49cbe9ed6_1496x1436.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iukK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d5d636a-b88c-48c2-9767-ece49cbe9ed6_1496x1436.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iukK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d5d636a-b88c-48c2-9767-ece49cbe9ed6_1496x1436.png" width="1496" height="1436" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iukK!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d5d636a-b88c-48c2-9767-ece49cbe9ed6_1496x1436.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iukK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d5d636a-b88c-48c2-9767-ece49cbe9ed6_1496x1436.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iukK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d5d636a-b88c-48c2-9767-ece49cbe9ed6_1496x1436.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/culturalidentity/religion/articles/religionbyhousinghealthemploymentandeducationenglandandwales/census2021">Source</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Muslims also tend to have lower-paying jobs:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mrAN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9d76298f-20e2-471f-9fa1-83880c94aa8f_1436x1562.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mrAN!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9d76298f-20e2-471f-9fa1-83880c94aa8f_1436x1562.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mrAN!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9d76298f-20e2-471f-9fa1-83880c94aa8f_1436x1562.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mrAN!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9d76298f-20e2-471f-9fa1-83880c94aa8f_1436x1562.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mrAN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9d76298f-20e2-471f-9fa1-83880c94aa8f_1436x1562.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mrAN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9d76298f-20e2-471f-9fa1-83880c94aa8f_1436x1562.png" width="1436" height="1562" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9d76298f-20e2-471f-9fa1-83880c94aa8f_1436x1562.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1562,&quot;width&quot;:1436,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/culturalidentity/religion/articles/religionbyhousinghealthemploymentandeducationenglandandwales/census2021">Source</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Among other reasons, because they have less education:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j_FY!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9628897e-065f-4f62-9c9b-0d3dc0812dd5_1492x1284.png" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j_FY!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9628897e-065f-4f62-9c9b-0d3dc0812dd5_1492x1284.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j_FY!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9628897e-065f-4f62-9c9b-0d3dc0812dd5_1492x1284.png" width="1492" height="1284" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j_FY!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9628897e-065f-4f62-9c9b-0d3dc0812dd5_1492x1284.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j_FY!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9628897e-065f-4f62-9c9b-0d3dc0812dd5_1492x1284.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j_FY!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9628897e-065f-4f62-9c9b-0d3dc0812dd5_1492x1284.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/culturalidentity/religion/articles/religionbyhousinghealthemploymentandeducationenglandandwales/census2021">Source</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>We see the same impact of lower female participation:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sX0M!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F947f5e91-c43a-4c14-8609-f6ec2ec038a0_1600x968.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sX0M!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F947f5e91-c43a-4c14-8609-f6ec2ec038a0_1600x968.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sX0M!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F947f5e91-c43a-4c14-8609-f6ec2ec038a0_1600x968.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sX0M!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F947f5e91-c43a-4c14-8609-f6ec2ec038a0_1600x968.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sX0M!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F947f5e91-c43a-4c14-8609-f6ec2ec038a0_1600x968.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sX0M!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F947f5e91-c43a-4c14-8609-f6ec2ec038a0_1600x968.png" width="1600" height="968" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/947f5e91-c43a-4c14-8609-f6ec2ec038a0_1600x968.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:968,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sX0M!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F947f5e91-c43a-4c14-8609-f6ec2ec038a0_1600x968.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sX0M!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F947f5e91-c43a-4c14-8609-f6ec2ec038a0_1600x968.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sX0M!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F947f5e91-c43a-4c14-8609-f6ec2ec038a0_1600x968.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sX0M!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F947f5e91-c43a-4c14-8609-f6ec2ec038a0_1600x968.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201617/cmselect/cmwomeq/89/89.pdf">Source</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>And this data shows this is not an effect of age. In the UK, Arabs and Pakistanis are substantially less employed than any other ethnicity, and the gap for women is astonishing.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Semz!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7167a1d6-5c4d-444a-858d-a7a3a3b37ac0_1600x700.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Semz!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7167a1d6-5c4d-444a-858d-a7a3a3b37ac0_1600x700.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Semz!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7167a1d6-5c4d-444a-858d-a7a3a3b37ac0_1600x700.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Semz!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7167a1d6-5c4d-444a-858d-a7a3a3b37ac0_1600x700.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Semz!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7167a1d6-5c4d-444a-858d-a7a3a3b37ac0_1600x700.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Semz!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7167a1d6-5c4d-444a-858d-a7a3a3b37ac0_1600x700.png" width="1600" height="700" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7167a1d6-5c4d-444a-858d-a7a3a3b37ac0_1600x700.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:700,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Semz!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7167a1d6-5c4d-444a-858d-a7a3a3b37ac0_1600x700.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Semz!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7167a1d6-5c4d-444a-858d-a7a3a3b37ac0_1600x700.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Semz!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7167a1d6-5c4d-444a-858d-a7a3a3b37ac0_1600x700.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Semz!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7167a1d6-5c4d-444a-858d-a7a3a3b37ac0_1600x700.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>At their peak, only 50% of Arabs in the UK are working!</em></figcaption></figure></div><h3>Germany</h3><p>Germany is interesting because the data is slightly different. We again see female Muslims with a very low employment rate. But men are slightly more likely to work than immigrants of other nationalities.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1i13!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F92cef5c4-5e3f-420f-8fac-2af89d7a19c8_1376x740.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1i13!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F92cef5c4-5e3f-420f-8fac-2af89d7a19c8_1376x740.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1i13!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F92cef5c4-5e3f-420f-8fac-2af89d7a19c8_1376x740.png 848w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://www.bamf.de/SharedDocs/Anlagen/EN/Forschung/Forschungsberichte/Kurzberichte/fb38-muslimisches-leben-kurzfassung.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&amp;v=14">Source</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>On balance, it looks like the two big contributors to lower work participation rate are immigration and, within that, Islam.</p><h3>France</h3><p>In France, the unemployment rate of African immigrants is more than twice that of locals, and it gets <em>worse</em> in the 2<sup>nd</sup> generation.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rjuQ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8b6143be-e74a-4184-8119-ed7e46071ec6_1600x830.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rjuQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8b6143be-e74a-4184-8119-ed7e46071ec6_1600x830.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rjuQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8b6143be-e74a-4184-8119-ed7e46071ec6_1600x830.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rjuQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8b6143be-e74a-4184-8119-ed7e46071ec6_1600x830.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rjuQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8b6143be-e74a-4184-8119-ed7e46071ec6_1600x830.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rjuQ!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8b6143be-e74a-4184-8119-ed7e46071ec6_1600x830.png" width="1200" height="622.5" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8b6143be-e74a-4184-8119-ed7e46071ec6_1600x830.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:830,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rjuQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8b6143be-e74a-4184-8119-ed7e46071ec6_1600x830.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rjuQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8b6143be-e74a-4184-8119-ed7e46071ec6_1600x830.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rjuQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8b6143be-e74a-4184-8119-ed7e46071ec6_1600x830.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rjuQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8b6143be-e74a-4184-8119-ed7e46071ec6_1600x830.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>~80% of African immigrants to France are Muslim</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>The shares of social housing (so, welfare) remain extremely high for the children of immigrants, and poverty rates remain quite high, too.</p><h3>US</h3><p>In the US, Muslim immigrants are more educated than the average American. However, they tend to be somewhat underemployed compared to Americans. The difference is not massive though.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LMg6!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7150013a-da25-4677-a587-0f80880cd805_1309x1291.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LMg6!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7150013a-da25-4677-a587-0f80880cd805_1309x1291.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LMg6!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7150013a-da25-4677-a587-0f80880cd805_1309x1291.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LMg6!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7150013a-da25-4677-a587-0f80880cd805_1309x1291.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LMg6!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7150013a-da25-4677-a587-0f80880cd805_1309x1291.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LMg6!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7150013a-da25-4677-a587-0f80880cd805_1309x1291.png" width="1309" height="1291" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7150013a-da25-4677-a587-0f80880cd805_1309x1291.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1291,&quot;width&quot;:1309,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LMg6!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7150013a-da25-4677-a587-0f80880cd805_1309x1291.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LMg6!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7150013a-da25-4677-a587-0f80880cd805_1309x1291.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LMg6!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7150013a-da25-4677-a587-0f80880cd805_1309x1291.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LMg6!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7150013a-da25-4677-a587-0f80880cd805_1309x1291.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Unemployed means no job but looking for one</em>. </figcaption></figure></div><p>OK so what we&#8217;re seeing for Muslim immigrants is that those in Europe tend to have lower education than natives, and they also work less. About 50-70% of the men of working age work, and the number for women is usually about half of that. For the US, I don&#8217;t have more granular data, but it doesn&#8217;t look like these hold.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a></p><p>Now, let&#8217;s look at state contributions: net costs vs benefits in terms of taxes contributed vs spent.</p><h2>Fiscal Cost-Benefit</h2><h3>Denmark</h3><p>Denmark has some of the best data on this topic, so let&#8217;s look at it. I shared this before:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!REm3!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ac91097-965c-47bb-8177-90737ded0a29_1600x794.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!REm3!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ac91097-965c-47bb-8177-90737ded0a29_1600x794.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!REm3!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ac91097-965c-47bb-8177-90737ded0a29_1600x794.png 848w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!REm3!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ac91097-965c-47bb-8177-90737ded0a29_1600x794.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!REm3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ac91097-965c-47bb-8177-90737ded0a29_1600x794.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!REm3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ac91097-965c-47bb-8177-90737ded0a29_1600x794.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Somalia, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Afghanistan, ex-Yugoslavia (some Muslims), Morocco, Turkey, Pakistan, Bosnia (half Muslim), Iran and Sri Lanka immigrants are all net negative tax contributors in Denmark.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Because of this, every year Denmark spends <a href="https://www.emilkirkegaard.com/p/immigration-economics-for-economist">1.3%</a> of its GDP in supporting MENAPT immigrants&#8212;about half the public budget spent on education. This is <em>just</em> to support these immigrants fiscally. This graph from The Economist shows the breakdown per age, compared to other types of Danish people:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!026W!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa3723473-1f5f-422f-9a99-94f1b34d6d3d_608x662.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!026W!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa3723473-1f5f-422f-9a99-94f1b34d6d3d_608x662.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!026W!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa3723473-1f5f-422f-9a99-94f1b34d6d3d_608x662.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!026W!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa3723473-1f5f-422f-9a99-94f1b34d6d3d_608x662.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!026W!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa3723473-1f5f-422f-9a99-94f1b34d6d3d_608x662.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!026W!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa3723473-1f5f-422f-9a99-94f1b34d6d3d_608x662.png" width="608" height="662" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a3723473-1f5f-422f-9a99-94f1b34d6d3d_608x662.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:662,&quot;width&quot;:608,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!026W!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa3723473-1f5f-422f-9a99-94f1b34d6d3d_608x662.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!026W!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa3723473-1f5f-422f-9a99-94f1b34d6d3d_608x662.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!026W!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa3723473-1f5f-422f-9a99-94f1b34d6d3d_608x662.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!026W!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa3723473-1f5f-422f-9a99-94f1b34d6d3d_608x662.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Before adolescence, natives and immigrants in Denmark cost the state approximately the same amount. Then they start diverging. Between roughly 25 and 68 years old, Danes and Western immigrants contribute positively to the state through taxes. After retirement, the contribution is increasingly negative. The hope is that the earning years generate more money than the cost years (so the surface above the &#8220;0&#8221; line in the middle years is higher than the surface below it as children and old people). Non-Western immigrants don&#8217;t contribute as much, but the most expensive in Denmark are those from the Middle East, North Africa, Pakistan and Turkey, as well as their descendants. </em><a href="https://www.economist.com/europe/2021/12/18/why-have-danes-turned-against-immigration">Source</a>.</figcaption></figure></div><p>At <strong>no age </strong>do MENAPT immigrants contribute positively to the state. If you break that down per country of origin:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rwhc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cb6255f-4fb5-4454-9fb6-de16dbe2dfb6_1200x1200.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rwhc!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cb6255f-4fb5-4454-9fb6-de16dbe2dfb6_1200x1200.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rwhc!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cb6255f-4fb5-4454-9fb6-de16dbe2dfb6_1200x1200.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rwhc!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cb6255f-4fb5-4454-9fb6-de16dbe2dfb6_1200x1200.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rwhc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cb6255f-4fb5-4454-9fb6-de16dbe2dfb6_1200x1200.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rwhc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cb6255f-4fb5-4454-9fb6-de16dbe2dfb6_1200x1200.png" width="1200" height="1200" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7cb6255f-4fb5-4454-9fb6-de16dbe2dfb6_1200x1200.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1200,&quot;width&quot;:1200,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rwhc!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cb6255f-4fb5-4454-9fb6-de16dbe2dfb6_1200x1200.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rwhc!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cb6255f-4fb5-4454-9fb6-de16dbe2dfb6_1200x1200.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rwhc!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cb6255f-4fb5-4454-9fb6-de16dbe2dfb6_1200x1200.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rwhc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cb6255f-4fb5-4454-9fb6-de16dbe2dfb6_1200x1200.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>MENAPT are not the only immigrants to cost the state, but they cost the most. Every Somalian<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a> costs $27k per year!</p><h3>Netherlands</h3><p><a href="https://demo-demo.nl/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Borderless_Welfare_State-2.pdf">This</a> is the most massive study I&#8217;ve seen for any country on earth on the fiscal impact of immigrants. In it, the Netherlands shows fiscal contribution per country of origin (like in Denmark), but over their lifetime instead of per year, and for 1st and 2nd generation immigrants. Here it is, shown on a map of the world:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5L6n!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e3d1c45-5de2-4cd1-9b4f-ce5364dba736_1600x1000.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5L6n!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e3d1c45-5de2-4cd1-9b4f-ce5364dba736_1600x1000.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5L6n!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e3d1c45-5de2-4cd1-9b4f-ce5364dba736_1600x1000.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5L6n!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e3d1c45-5de2-4cd1-9b4f-ce5364dba736_1600x1000.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5L6n!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e3d1c45-5de2-4cd1-9b4f-ce5364dba736_1600x1000.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5L6n!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e3d1c45-5de2-4cd1-9b4f-ce5364dba736_1600x1000.png" width="1600" height="1000" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2e3d1c45-5de2-4cd1-9b4f-ce5364dba736_1600x1000.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1000,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5L6n!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e3d1c45-5de2-4cd1-9b4f-ce5364dba736_1600x1000.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5L6n!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e3d1c45-5de2-4cd1-9b4f-ce5364dba736_1600x1000.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5L6n!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e3d1c45-5de2-4cd1-9b4f-ce5364dba736_1600x1000.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5L6n!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e3d1c45-5de2-4cd1-9b4f-ce5364dba736_1600x1000.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Lifetime net fiscal contribution of 1st and 2nd generation immigrants to the Netherlands. Note that many eventually repatriate to their origin countries, which reduces their tax burden. For immigrants who remain, the cost across both generations is approximately double. <a href="https://demo-demo.nl/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Borderless_Welfare_State-2.pdf">Source</a>.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>And here&#8217;s a detail per country/small region:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ts8Z!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2cfe42e6-10f0-4cf1-abf8-7b831ad1ea60_1600x1197.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ts8Z!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2cfe42e6-10f0-4cf1-abf8-7b831ad1ea60_1600x1197.png 424w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ts8Z!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2cfe42e6-10f0-4cf1-abf8-7b831ad1ea60_1600x1197.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ts8Z!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2cfe42e6-10f0-4cf1-abf8-7b831ad1ea60_1600x1197.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ts8Z!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2cfe42e6-10f0-4cf1-abf8-7b831ad1ea60_1600x1197.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><blockquote><p><em>An average native-born Dutch family pays five thousand euros in taxes per year that end up being spent on immigrants.</em></p></blockquote><p>A surprising fact: For the 2<sup>nd</sup> generation of immigrants, only those of Danish, Swedish, Finnish, and Chinese background were net positive. Every other origin drained state coffers rather than contributing to them.</p><p>Why? Here&#8217;s the share of benefit recipients vs the likelihood of them leaving within 10 years of arriving:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!saVz!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F272034e9-d4ce-49dd-a7a6-6b86ffb4ac21_1600x795.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!saVz!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F272034e9-d4ce-49dd-a7a6-6b86ffb4ac21_1600x795.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!saVz!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F272034e9-d4ce-49dd-a7a6-6b86ffb4ac21_1600x795.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!saVz!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F272034e9-d4ce-49dd-a7a6-6b86ffb4ac21_1600x795.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!saVz!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F272034e9-d4ce-49dd-a7a6-6b86ffb4ac21_1600x795.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!saVz!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F272034e9-d4ce-49dd-a7a6-6b86ffb4ac21_1600x795.png" width="1600" height="795" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/272034e9-d4ce-49dd-a7a6-6b86ffb4ac21_1600x795.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:795,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!saVz!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F272034e9-d4ce-49dd-a7a6-6b86ffb4ac21_1600x795.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!saVz!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F272034e9-d4ce-49dd-a7a6-6b86ffb4ac21_1600x795.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!saVz!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F272034e9-d4ce-49dd-a7a6-6b86ffb4ac21_1600x795.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!saVz!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F272034e9-d4ce-49dd-a7a6-6b86ffb4ac21_1600x795.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://demo-demo.nl/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Borderless_Welfare_State-2.pdf">Source</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>The most likely to ask for welfare support are the least likely to leave.</p><h3>Finland</h3><p>This is for Finland:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ze_m!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1394e508-4134-4343-9fc4-66abc77c77b3_1600x2000.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ze_m!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1394e508-4134-4343-9fc4-66abc77c77b3_1600x2000.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ze_m!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1394e508-4134-4343-9fc4-66abc77c77b3_1600x2000.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ze_m!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1394e508-4134-4343-9fc4-66abc77c77b3_1600x2000.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ze_m!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1394e508-4134-4343-9fc4-66abc77c77b3_1600x2000.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ze_m!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1394e508-4134-4343-9fc4-66abc77c77b3_1600x2000.png" width="498" height="622.5" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/1394e508-4134-4343-9fc4-66abc77c77b3_1600x2000.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:2000,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:498,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ze_m!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1394e508-4134-4343-9fc4-66abc77c77b3_1600x2000.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ze_m!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1394e508-4134-4343-9fc4-66abc77c77b3_1600x2000.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ze_m!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1394e508-4134-4343-9fc4-66abc77c77b3_1600x2000.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ze_m!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1394e508-4134-4343-9fc4-66abc77c77b3_1600x2000.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Here&#8217;s a breakdown per country:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lbeP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26986236-5a76-454a-b734-2c20f4162e01_1280x1600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lbeP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26986236-5a76-454a-b734-2c20f4162e01_1280x1600.png" width="423" height="528.75" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/26986236-5a76-454a-b734-2c20f4162e01_1280x1600.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1600,&quot;width&quot;:1280,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:423,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lbeP!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26986236-5a76-454a-b734-2c20f4162e01_1280x1600.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lbeP!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26986236-5a76-454a-b734-2c20f4162e01_1280x1600.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lbeP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26986236-5a76-454a-b734-2c20f4162e01_1280x1600.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lbeP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26986236-5a76-454a-b734-2c20f4162e01_1280x1600.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>Portugal</h3><p>The data that we have for Denmark, Finland, and the Netherlands isn&#8217;t as readily available for other countries. Portugal has data per person per country, but only tax contributions, not welfare costs.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yBmO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05912115-3220-4959-a79a-627ad5d8dc1e_1600x1084.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yBmO!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05912115-3220-4959-a79a-627ad5d8dc1e_1600x1084.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yBmO!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05912115-3220-4959-a79a-627ad5d8dc1e_1600x1084.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yBmO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05912115-3220-4959-a79a-627ad5d8dc1e_1600x1084.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yBmO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05912115-3220-4959-a79a-627ad5d8dc1e_1600x1084.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yBmO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05912115-3220-4959-a79a-627ad5d8dc1e_1600x1084.png" width="1600" height="1084" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/05912115-3220-4959-a79a-627ad5d8dc1e_1600x1084.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1084,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yBmO!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05912115-3220-4959-a79a-627ad5d8dc1e_1600x1084.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yBmO!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05912115-3220-4959-a79a-627ad5d8dc1e_1600x1084.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yBmO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05912115-3220-4959-a79a-627ad5d8dc1e_1600x1084.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yBmO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05912115-3220-4959-a79a-627ad5d8dc1e_1600x1084.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Here, we can&#8217;t see Muslims, because only 0.4% of the Portuguese population is Muslim. They don&#8217;t tend to immigrate to Portugal.</p><p>So if we summarize the economic side, Muslim immigrants to Europe, compared to locals, tend to:</p><ul><li><p>Work less</p></li><li><p>Have lower levels of skill</p></li><li><p>Consume much more welfare</p></li></ul><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-criminal-socialm-and-economic?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-criminal-socialm-and-economic?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><h1>Takeaways: What Should the EU Do?</h1><p>The takeaway so far is that in Europe, immigrants:</p><ul><li><p>Work less than the average native.</p></li><li><p>After locals, the next most productive are EU citizens. The least productive tend to be Muslims</p><ul><li><p>This is in a big part because of women not working, but not entirely.</p></li></ul></li><li><p>Immigrants are nearly always fiscally expensive.</p><ul><li><p>Muslim immigrants cost in general more money to the state.</p></li><li><p>This cost isn&#8217;t erased at the 2<sup>nd</sup> generation.</p></li></ul></li><li><p>Immigrants commit substantially more crime than any other group.</p><ul><li><p>Across destination countries, Muslims commit the most crime.</p></li></ul></li><li><p>Islamists are behind most of the terrorism.</p></li><li><p>Immigration reduces local trust and social capital, probably more due to segregation than other factors, but also because of cultural transmission.</p><ul><li><p>Again, it seems like this is more true of Muslim immigrants than others.</p></li></ul></li></ul><p>Does that mean that massive waves of deportations should take place in Europe? No:</p><ol><li><p>Europe needs immigrants.</p></li><li><p>Many countries are quite good at taking in immigrants.</p></li><li><p>Many immigrants take several generations to converge to local performance.</p></li><li><p>The numbers above are not complete. They&#8217;re missing some other factors.</p></li><li><p>A large part of the problem is caused not by the immigrants, but by European legislation.</p></li><li><p>Not all immigrants are the same. They should be treated differently.</p></li></ol><p>These are the things we&#8217;re going to look at in the next article.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>The exceptions are Spain and Portugal, which get more from Latin America, and the countries that received a lot of Ukrainians, like Poland. Data from <a href="https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/migr_resfirst__custom_12777090/bookmark/table?lang=en&amp;bookmarkId=7afcf81b-4595-463a-baa9-1cc9c9820ed3&amp;c=1725542114707">Eurostat</a>.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>One or more, as repeats were not counted.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>In the case of Albania, it&#8217;s a plurality, not a majority. Spain appears to have a serious problem with Albanians. They account for only 0.1% of foreigners, but 2.5% of criminals in prison.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>In the Netherlands, the biggest sources of immigrants are Indonesians and Surinamese. I don&#8217;t know the baseline crime rate of Surinamese, but for Indonesians it&#8217;s very low in Germany, so I assess it&#8217;s very low in the Netherlands too. The next two groups are Turks and Moroccans. Given their track record in other countries, it&#8217;s reasonable to estimate they have a high crime rate in the Netherlands too.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Immigrant Muslims have more education than the average American, and they work just a bit less, which suggests both men and women Muslim immigrants work more than in Europe.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>Usually included in the definition, even though it belongs to neither North Africa nor the Middle East. But it&#8217;s close by and also majority Muslim.</em></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[What Immigrants Should the West Accept?]]></title><description><![CDATA[The ROI of immigration, productivity, identity, crime, housing pressure, national cohesion, secularism, terrorism, and elite competence]]></description><link>https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/what-immigrants-should-the-west-accept</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/what-immigrants-should-the-west-accept</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomas Pueyo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 12:02:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N78r!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F10f66a4b-67b5-44a8-b5d4-48462fc8e3e0_1600x1000.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a backlash on immigration across the US, Europe, and Japan right now. How did we get here? Why did politicians open the gates? Were they right?</p><h1>1. The Fear</h1><p>Maybe you&#8217;ve seen a graph like this one:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bm1U!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcf537c72-b2fe-4e27-9327-2993d3e7d5cb_1310x1176.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bm1U!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcf537c72-b2fe-4e27-9327-2993d3e7d5cb_1310x1176.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bm1U!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcf537c72-b2fe-4e27-9327-2993d3e7d5cb_1310x1176.png 848w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Sexual violence has doubled in the last 10 years in the EU. <a href="https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2026/05/05/sexual-violence-and-rape-offences-are-rising-in-the-eu-new-data-shows">Source</a>.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>If we look at a few European countries individually, it looks like this:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ligl!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef0edf82-dc42-4658-9e5a-6c42156805a4_1600x1286.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ligl!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef0edf82-dc42-4658-9e5a-6c42156805a4_1600x1286.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ligl!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef0edf82-dc42-4658-9e5a-6c42156805a4_1600x1286.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ligl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef0edf82-dc42-4658-9e5a-6c42156805a4_1600x1286.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ligl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef0edf82-dc42-4658-9e5a-6c42156805a4_1600x1286.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>When seeking a culprit, immigration springs to many people&#8217;s minds:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iD0n!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F874052a0-f7d7-4896-a19f-072c5906b01d_1600x2000.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iD0n!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F874052a0-f7d7-4896-a19f-072c5906b01d_1600x2000.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iD0n!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F874052a0-f7d7-4896-a19f-072c5906b01d_1600x2000.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iD0n!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F874052a0-f7d7-4896-a19f-072c5906b01d_1600x2000.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iD0n!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F874052a0-f7d7-4896-a19f-072c5906b01d_1600x2000.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iD0n!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F874052a0-f7d7-4896-a19f-072c5906b01d_1600x2000.png" width="1600" height="2000" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/874052a0-f7d7-4896-a19f-072c5906b01d_1600x2000.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:2000,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iD0n!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F874052a0-f7d7-4896-a19f-072c5906b01d_1600x2000.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iD0n!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F874052a0-f7d7-4896-a19f-072c5906b01d_1600x2000.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iD0n!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F874052a0-f7d7-4896-a19f-072c5906b01d_1600x2000.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iD0n!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F874052a0-f7d7-4896-a19f-072c5906b01d_1600x2000.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This leads to fears of replacement. And viral videos like this one appear, to make the stats feel more visceral and associate immigration with disease:</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;6ce2d473-e7c2-475f-98c8-792f9308a7d3&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>They think maybe the increase in sexual violence in Europe is due to immigrants. Then they stumble on data like this:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lTDT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F921e3c94-5135-4f79-8148-7b406ddf6ce9_1600x1200.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lTDT!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F921e3c94-5135-4f79-8148-7b406ddf6ce9_1600x1200.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lTDT!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F921e3c94-5135-4f79-8148-7b406ddf6ce9_1600x1200.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lTDT!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F921e3c94-5135-4f79-8148-7b406ddf6ce9_1600x1200.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lTDT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F921e3c94-5135-4f79-8148-7b406ddf6ce9_1600x1200.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lTDT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F921e3c94-5135-4f79-8148-7b406ddf6ce9_1600x1200.png" width="1600" height="1200" 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stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>They conclude that immigrants drive a majority of crime in the West. </p><p>In parallel, they might come across data like this:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aVvC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffb045392-1b15-4cae-a49b-1e49f4395020_1600x795.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aVvC!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffb045392-1b15-4cae-a49b-1e49f4395020_1600x795.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>And see the two types of data from above&#8212;economics and sexual crime&#8212;combined into one:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HYb8!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee975889-cc01-480f-b657-027c6a42ee5b_1079x854.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HYb8!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee975889-cc01-480f-b657-027c6a42ee5b_1079x854.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Source: <a href="https://x.com/jonatanpallesen">Jonathan Pallesen</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>I assume most people, when presented with these graphs, either become uncomfortable, or say: <em>Let&#8217;s stop immigration immediately</em>. And that&#8217;s one of the main reasons why right-wing parties are growing across Europe:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ynX7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79b12377-cf80-4f7c-8096-cf7fa0c80597_1465x1277.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ynX7!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79b12377-cf80-4f7c-8096-cf7fa0c80597_1465x1277.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ynX7!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79b12377-cf80-4f7c-8096-cf7fa0c80597_1465x1277.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ynX7!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79b12377-cf80-4f7c-8096-cf7fa0c80597_1465x1277.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ynX7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79b12377-cf80-4f7c-8096-cf7fa0c80597_1465x1277.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ynX7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79b12377-cf80-4f7c-8096-cf7fa0c80597_1465x1277.png" width="1465" height="1277" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/79b12377-cf80-4f7c-8096-cf7fa0c80597_1465x1277.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1277,&quot;width&quot;:1465,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ynX7!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79b12377-cf80-4f7c-8096-cf7fa0c80597_1465x1277.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ynX7!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79b12377-cf80-4f7c-8096-cf7fa0c80597_1465x1277.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ynX7!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79b12377-cf80-4f7c-8096-cf7fa0c80597_1465x1277.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ynX7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79b12377-cf80-4f7c-8096-cf7fa0c80597_1465x1277.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Source: Tomas Pueyo for Uncharted Territories, data gathered by Claude.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>But that is flawed thinking:</p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[What Do Muslim Immigrants Think in the West?]]></title><description><![CDATA[Across the US and several European countries, opinions range from moderate to radical Islamist. How much? Where?]]></description><link>https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/what-do-muslim-immigrants-think-in</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/what-do-muslim-immigrants-think-in</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomas Pueyo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2026 12:49:22 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_ty-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3c8b5943-4ad0-4a58-b63c-9c63fb3a05fb_1826x1411.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I&#8217;ve written several premium articles in the last couple of weeks:</em></p><ul><li><p><em><a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/why-did-islam-spread-so-fast-in-north">Why Did Islam Spread So Fast in North Africa &amp; Spain?</a></em></p></li><li><p><em><a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-ruthless-liquidity-of-modern">The Ruthless Liquidity of Modern Love</a></em></p></li><li><p><em><a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/50-learnings-from-the-war-in-iran">50 Learnings from the War in Iran</a></em></p></li></ul><p><em>The last one, from this Tuesday, is <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/what-do-muslims-think">What Do Muslims Believe?</a> It&#8217;s the first in the current series, and is about Muslim beliefs in Muslim countries.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p><em>Today, we focus on the beliefs of Muslims when they move to the West. This is becoming crucially important, as Muslim immigration is one of the strongest factors in European voting today. So I looked at over a dozen surveys across six countries (US, UK, France, Denmark, Germany, Austria) and condensed the insights into dozens of the most relevant charts.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></em></p><h1>1. Muslims in the US</h1><p>The best data I could find for this group is <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2017/07/U.S.-MUSLIMS-FULL-REPORT.pdf">this Pew Research survey from 2017</a>. What can we tell about their religiosity, morals, appreciation for democracy, feelings of belonging, and concerns about extremism?</p><h3>Religiosity</h3><p>Muslims in the US are slightly more religious than Christians.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BxUf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc810ca6e-2d88-4949-a396-25b64168ae7d_892x572.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BxUf!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc810ca6e-2d88-4949-a396-25b64168ae7d_892x572.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/06/18/how-us-muslims-compare-with-other-americans-religiously-and-demographically/">Source</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>This religiosity can be seen in the <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2012/08/09/the-worlds-muslims-unity-and-diversity-appendix-a/">share of Muslims</a> who pray every day (65%) and visit the Mosque once a week (47%). What does religiosity mean for Muslims? A key aspect is how to interpret the Quran.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BGJ2!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F075ef802-3f33-4487-b8ce-cb1b07ce7494_1600x517.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BGJ2!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F075ef802-3f33-4487-b8ce-cb1b07ce7494_1600x517.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BGJ2!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F075ef802-3f33-4487-b8ce-cb1b07ce7494_1600x517.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BGJ2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F075ef802-3f33-4487-b8ce-cb1b07ce7494_1600x517.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BGJ2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F075ef802-3f33-4487-b8ce-cb1b07ce7494_1600x517.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BGJ2!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F075ef802-3f33-4487-b8ce-cb1b07ce7494_1600x517.png" width="1200" height="387.75" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/075ef802-3f33-4487-b8ce-cb1b07ce7494_1600x517.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:517,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BGJ2!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F075ef802-3f33-4487-b8ce-cb1b07ce7494_1600x517.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BGJ2!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F075ef802-3f33-4487-b8ce-cb1b07ce7494_1600x517.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BGJ2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F075ef802-3f33-4487-b8ce-cb1b07ce7494_1600x517.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BGJ2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F075ef802-3f33-4487-b8ce-cb1b07ce7494_1600x517.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>The question about the literal word of god comes from a <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2012/08/09/the-worlds-muslims-unity-and-diversity-appendix-a/">2012 Pew Research survey</a>, the others are from the 2017 one. Grey is always doesn't know, doesn't answer. I didn&#8217;t have that data point for the first question so I assumed it was 0%.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>These things are connected. Muhammad claimed that the Angel Gabriel dictated to him the Quran, and was the literal word of God. This is why so many Muslims believe it, and why about a third think there&#8217;s only one way to interpret Islam and it shouldn&#8217;t be reinterpreted.</p><p>This is problematic because all ancient religious texts have some pretty illiberal positions, and that includes the Quran:</p><ul><li><p>Fight those who do not believe in Allah (9:29)</p></li><li><p>Disbelievers are the worst creatures (98:6)</p></li><li><p>Do not take the Jews and Christians as allies (5:51)</p></li><li><p>Men have the authority in the marriage and can strike women (4:34)</p></li><li><p>Adultery and fornication deserve 100 lashes (24:2)</p></li><li><p>Slavery is permitted (90:13 and 2:177 assume slavery exist)</p></li><li><p>Sex with slaves and captives is permitted (4:24, 23:5-6, 70:29-30)</p></li><li><p>Fighting is prescribed in certain cases, even if disliked (2:216)</p></li><li><p>Muslims should fight until religion is entirely for Allah (8:39)</p></li></ul><p>Again, this is not exclusive to Islam: <a href="https://news.gallup.com/poll/394262/fewer-bible-literal-word-god.aspx">20%</a> of US Christians also believe the Bible is the literal word of God, and that includes the Old Testament, with some nice pearls such as the punishment for homosexuality or adultery should be death. So the difference is not in nature, but in degree: The more literal and radical interpretations of old books is just more common among Muslims than in Christians in the US. And maybe this difference comes from the fact that Muslims have been in the US less than Christians on average?</p><p>Another important aspect of this is that non-Muslims miss a key point about the interpretability of the Quran. For example, although the Quran says men can strike women, what does <em>strike</em> mean? This requires interpretation. Some Muslims think it means a beating that leaves no marks. Others think it should not be violent or severe, like a flicker of a finger for example. Others think it should just be symbolic.</p><p>So although these data points suggest Muslims are more conservative and pious than the average American, they don&#8217;t directly imply that their morality is starkly different. For that, we need to look into morality data.</p><h3>Morality</h3><p>Muslims track with the rest of society in the evolution of attitudes towards homosexuality:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WDRx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8036bc98-4535-4d77-9e53-9958f221bdd3_1374x1476.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WDRx!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8036bc98-4535-4d77-9e53-9958f221bdd3_1374x1476.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WDRx!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8036bc98-4535-4d77-9e53-9958f221bdd3_1374x1476.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WDRx!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8036bc98-4535-4d77-9e53-9958f221bdd3_1374x1476.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WDRx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8036bc98-4535-4d77-9e53-9958f221bdd3_1374x1476.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WDRx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8036bc98-4535-4d77-9e53-9958f221bdd3_1374x1476.png" width="494" height="530.6724890829694" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8036bc98-4535-4d77-9e53-9958f221bdd3_1374x1476.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1476,&quot;width&quot;:1374,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:494,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WDRx!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8036bc98-4535-4d77-9e53-9958f221bdd3_1374x1476.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WDRx!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8036bc98-4535-4d77-9e53-9958f221bdd3_1374x1476.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WDRx!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8036bc98-4535-4d77-9e53-9958f221bdd3_1374x1476.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WDRx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8036bc98-4535-4d77-9e53-9958f221bdd3_1374x1476.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>The data wasn&#8217;t broken down for the US general public in terms of religious Christians vs others, but my guess is that the US Muslim numbers track those of religious Christians.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>I&#8217;m sure that if we had the data for Christians, we&#8217;d see something similar. What I think is most telling here is how the acceptance of homosexuals among Muslims almost doubled in just 10 years. We can probably assume it&#8217;s even higher now.</p><h3>Religion vs Democracy</h3><p>A full third of US Muslims believe Islam is incompatible with democracy!</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!g6P7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe831c21d-1657-4813-a0f3-5cb4e3fd4ff7_1600x1081.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!g6P7!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe831c21d-1657-4813-a0f3-5cb4e3fd4ff7_1600x1081.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!g6P7!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe831c21d-1657-4813-a0f3-5cb4e3fd4ff7_1600x1081.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!g6P7!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe831c21d-1657-4813-a0f3-5cb4e3fd4ff7_1600x1081.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!g6P7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe831c21d-1657-4813-a0f3-5cb4e3fd4ff7_1600x1081.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!g6P7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe831c21d-1657-4813-a0f3-5cb4e3fd4ff7_1600x1081.png" width="583" height="393.889375" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e831c21d-1657-4813-a0f3-5cb4e3fd4ff7_1600x1081.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1081,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:583,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!g6P7!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe831c21d-1657-4813-a0f3-5cb4e3fd4ff7_1600x1081.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!g6P7!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe831c21d-1657-4813-a0f3-5cb4e3fd4ff7_1600x1081.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!g6P7!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe831c21d-1657-4813-a0f3-5cb4e3fd4ff7_1600x1081.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!g6P7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe831c21d-1657-4813-a0f3-5cb4e3fd4ff7_1600x1081.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This is similar to the numbers in <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/what-do-muslims-think">Muslim countries</a>. When we looked at these numbers across the Muslim world, we saw that this went hand in hand with authoritarianism and a desire to have religion supersede the state.</p><p>However, again, this data point is not enough. For example, we could imagine here that the majority of Muslims think democracy and Islam are compatible, and that the <em>more moderate Muslims</em> fear that it&#8217;s not, because they fear the more radical interpretations of Islam (which they don&#8217;t share), are incompatible with democracy. That&#8217;s exactly why we see 44% of the general public thinking Islam and democracy are incompatible. So we need to go deeper.</p><h3>Belonging</h3><p>In the US, Muslims are proud to be American, they&#8217;re pretty happy, and they think the system works for them.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VlSA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F65f77aed-6a95-4053-968f-0da384d561f3_1246x796.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VlSA!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F65f77aed-6a95-4053-968f-0da384d561f3_1246x796.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>From the report: U.S. Muslims Concerned About Their Place in Society, but Continue to Believe in the American Dream, Findings from Pew Research Center&#8217;s 2017 survey of U.S. Muslims. <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2017/07/U.S.-MUSLIMS-FULL-REPORT.pdf">Link here</a>.</em></figcaption></figure></div><h3>Concerns about Extremism</h3><p>US Muslims are <strong>more</strong> concerned than the average American about extremism in the name of Islam:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XeZK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feac2bfdb-d8f8-4dde-9375-e24a82ff0d5d_1600x382.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="image-caption"><em>This is from 2017, so ISIS is still in Syria and it&#8217;s one year after the Bataclan attacks in Paris. The US is still in Afghanistan.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Even as they believe support for extremists within Islam is low:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZVHL!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17ab1dc6-62ce-43c1-b3b9-5580515e9c01_1600x627.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZVHL!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17ab1dc6-62ce-43c1-b3b9-5580515e9c01_1600x627.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Muslims in the US think targeting civilians for political purposes is never justified (much less than the average American!).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mLfu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F03334a7d-8421-4d36-8f27-5aaff4fc2260_1600x370.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mLfu!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F03334a7d-8421-4d36-8f27-5aaff4fc2260_1600x370.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mLfu!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F03334a7d-8421-4d36-8f27-5aaff4fc2260_1600x370.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mLfu!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F03334a7d-8421-4d36-8f27-5aaff4fc2260_1600x370.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mLfu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F03334a7d-8421-4d36-8f27-5aaff4fc2260_1600x370.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mLfu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F03334a7d-8421-4d36-8f27-5aaff4fc2260_1600x370.png" width="1600" height="370" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/03334a7d-8421-4d36-8f27-5aaff4fc2260_1600x370.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:370,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mLfu!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F03334a7d-8421-4d36-8f27-5aaff4fc2260_1600x370.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mLfu!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F03334a7d-8421-4d36-8f27-5aaff4fc2260_1600x370.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mLfu!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F03334a7d-8421-4d36-8f27-5aaff4fc2260_1600x370.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mLfu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F03334a7d-8421-4d36-8f27-5aaff4fc2260_1600x370.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Is targeting civilians for political purposes ever justified? <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/06/18/how-us-muslims-compare-with-other-americans-religiously-and-demographically/">Source</a>.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>In other words, US Muslims are mostly moderate, most don&#8217;t support extremism, but they realize some Muslims do, and that worries the moderates.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9-Pd!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b48b69a-14da-416b-8345-58e0c6829ba5_1600x1047.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9-Pd!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b48b69a-14da-416b-8345-58e0c6829ba5_1600x1047.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9-Pd!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b48b69a-14da-416b-8345-58e0c6829ba5_1600x1047.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9-Pd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b48b69a-14da-416b-8345-58e0c6829ba5_1600x1047.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9-Pd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b48b69a-14da-416b-8345-58e0c6829ba5_1600x1047.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9-Pd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b48b69a-14da-416b-8345-58e0c6829ba5_1600x1047.png" width="594" height="388.69875" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6b48b69a-14da-416b-8345-58e0c6829ba5_1600x1047.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1047,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:594,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9-Pd!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b48b69a-14da-416b-8345-58e0c6829ba5_1600x1047.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9-Pd!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b48b69a-14da-416b-8345-58e0c6829ba5_1600x1047.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9-Pd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b48b69a-14da-416b-8345-58e0c6829ba5_1600x1047.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9-Pd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b48b69a-14da-416b-8345-58e0c6829ba5_1600x1047.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>In summary, the picture in the US is encouraging. Although Muslims seem to be pious, their beliefs seem reasonably well integrated with those of the broader public. They believe in democracy and don&#8217;t believe in extremism. But a sizable minority believes Islam should be interpreted traditionally and that it has a natural conflict with democracy, while Muslims suspect there&#8217;s a sizable share of extremists among them, and that worries them.</p><p>Alas, the picture in Europe is not as good.</p><h1>2. Muslims in Europe</h1><p>Across Europe, most Muslims identify either only with the host country or with both the host and the origin countries.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZhLQ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23552ffa-1aa5-441a-ba77-ac979e6e545c_1600x1058.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZhLQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23552ffa-1aa5-441a-ba77-ac979e6e545c_1600x1058.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://www.bertelsmann-stiftung.de/fileadmin/files/BSt/Publikationen/GrauePublikationen/Study_LW_Religion-Monitor-2017_Muslims-in-Europe_Results-and-Country-Profiles.pdf">Source</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Muslims are more religious than the rest of the population.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!W0_t!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35e65f2f-35eb-4309-988c-35c59b669218_1600x1238.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Highly religious Muslims are 6x more religious than natives in the UK, but equally religious in Switzerland</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>A <a href="https://www.wzb.eu/en/research/migration-and-diversity/migration-integration-transnationalization/projects/six-country-immigrant-integration-comparative-survey-sciics">survey</a> across six European countries<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> on immigrant integration produced several interesting papers. <a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/1369183X.2014.935307">This one</a> looked at how religiosity was connected to out-group hostility. Muslim immigrants and their children were substantially more fundamentalist than their Christian counterparts.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oKMS!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c08b364-d75a-48ca-80fa-e62ea96e1028_1600x1475.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oKMS!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c08b364-d75a-48ca-80fa-e62ea96e1028_1600x1475.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oKMS!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c08b364-d75a-48ca-80fa-e62ea96e1028_1600x1475.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oKMS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c08b364-d75a-48ca-80fa-e62ea96e1028_1600x1475.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oKMS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c08b364-d75a-48ca-80fa-e62ea96e1028_1600x1475.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oKMS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c08b364-d75a-48ca-80fa-e62ea96e1028_1600x1475.png" width="1600" height="1475" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5c08b364-d75a-48ca-80fa-e62ea96e1028_1600x1475.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1475,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oKMS!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c08b364-d75a-48ca-80fa-e62ea96e1028_1600x1475.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oKMS!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c08b364-d75a-48ca-80fa-e62ea96e1028_1600x1475.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oKMS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c08b364-d75a-48ca-80fa-e62ea96e1028_1600x1475.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oKMS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c08b364-d75a-48ca-80fa-e62ea96e1028_1600x1475.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>The 2nd generation is less fundamentalist, but still quite sizably so. If there was a cliff for the 3rd generation, that would be encouraging. Note that in this survey, there&#8217;s a confounder, which is that the Muslims are mostly immigrants and 2nd generation, whereas Christians are natives. Ideally, we would compare natives to natives, but we can&#8217;t here. That said, this is still a valid marker for integration ability.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Now, religious fundamentalism is not a problem by itself. Everybody can choose their own way of life. It&#8217;s only problematic if it has consequences for others, and unfortunately here there are, as Muslim fundamentalism includes respecting religious laws before secular ones, among other things. So what are Muslims&#8217; attitudes on homosexuality, Judaism, and the conflict between the West and Islam?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q0oq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9968a996-25be-4226-9ca7-21832e211a32_1600x1388.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q0oq!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9968a996-25be-4226-9ca7-21832e211a32_1600x1388.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q0oq!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9968a996-25be-4226-9ca7-21832e211a32_1600x1388.png 848w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>To note, more than half of 2nd generation Muslims think the West is out to destroy Islam.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>I found the next graph quite interesting.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A-ym!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F431b823e-16af-424f-babf-53b4bf4d1136_1600x1141.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A-ym!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F431b823e-16af-424f-babf-53b4bf4d1136_1600x1141.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Fundamentalist Christians were as hostile to Jews and homosexuals as non-religious Muslims!<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> This means that, in Europe, the hostility towards non-Muslim groups is not just a result of religiousness and piety.</p><h2>UK</h2><p>People tend to blur the immigrants of all European countries, but the immigrant populations don&#8217;t typically have the same origin:</p><ul><li><p>Spain has mostly Moroccans</p></li><li><p>France has Moroccans, Algerians, and Tunisians</p></li><li><p>In Germany, Turks and Syrians prevail</p></li><li><p>In the UK, 80% of Muslims are South Asians (54% Pakistani, 18% Bangladeshi, 9% Indian)</p></li></ul><p>This means that survey results will differ.</p><p><a href="https://policyexchange.org.uk/publication/unsettled-belonging-a-survey-of-britains-muslim-communities/">This UK survey</a> from 2016<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> showed that over 90% of Muslims felt they belonged to Britain either very (55%) or fairly (38%) strongly. However, when <a href="https://iifl.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/Report_Belonging-Belief-and-Britishness_Institute-for-Impact-of-Faith-in-Life.pdf">asked in this more recent survey</a> (2025) whether they feel more Muslim than British, a majority said Muslim.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TvLG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8bc1fa0-b757-4cfb-87e7-51db0dbd249f_1600x1197.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TvLG!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb8bc1fa0-b757-4cfb-87e7-51db0dbd249f_1600x1197.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>This is corroborated in <a href="https://policyexchange.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/Understanding-Islamopopulism_.pdf">this other 2026 survey</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>What do Muslims think about the compatibility of Western values and Islam? Channel 4 commissioned <a href="https://www.channel4.com/news/media/pdfs/top_lines.pdf">a survey</a> of 1000 British Muslims in 2016 (comparing them to non-Muslims).<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> It found that 66% of Muslims thought Islam and Western democracy were compatible, but 22% of Muslims didn&#8217;t think so.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RN36!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd66c0ec1-89ad-486e-aba3-a2fd3e8c8f2a_1600x413.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>If you remember, the data for the US was a bit higher, 30%</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>A bigger share of Muslims thought Islamic values are not compatible with British values (the previous graph was for democracy).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!phQN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fad8067bd-0646-4ab8-8016-5b64775fbb98_1600x373.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="image-caption"><em>Again, this could be not because Muslims think their values are incompatible with British values, but because they fear the values of more radical Muslims than them are incompatible.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>38% of British Muslims would support introducing some elements of Sharia law.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ya36!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6ca4b5e-a0dc-4e68-8079-5752e303999c_1600x470.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ya36!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6ca4b5e-a0dc-4e68-8079-5752e303999c_1600x470.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ya36!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6ca4b5e-a0dc-4e68-8079-5752e303999c_1600x470.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ya36!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6ca4b5e-a0dc-4e68-8079-5752e303999c_1600x470.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ya36!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6ca4b5e-a0dc-4e68-8079-5752e303999c_1600x470.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ya36!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6ca4b5e-a0dc-4e68-8079-5752e303999c_1600x470.png" width="1600" height="470" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f6ca4b5e-a0dc-4e68-8079-5752e303999c_1600x470.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:470,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ya36!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6ca4b5e-a0dc-4e68-8079-5752e303999c_1600x470.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ya36!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6ca4b5e-a0dc-4e68-8079-5752e303999c_1600x470.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ya36!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6ca4b5e-a0dc-4e68-8079-5752e303999c_1600x470.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ya36!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6ca4b5e-a0dc-4e68-8079-5752e303999c_1600x470.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This is broadly aligned with the findings of the <a href="https://policyexchange.org.uk/publication/unsettled-belonging-a-survey-of-britains-muslim-communities/">other survey</a> I mentioned above, where 42% support the introduction of some aspects of Sharia law in the UK.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0g0V!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fccd7e45f-d64f-4f99-a795-16507395d70b_858x592.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0g0V!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fccd7e45f-d64f-4f99-a795-16507395d70b_858x592.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0g0V!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fccd7e45f-d64f-4f99-a795-16507395d70b_858x592.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0g0V!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fccd7e45f-d64f-4f99-a795-16507395d70b_858x592.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0g0V!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fccd7e45f-d64f-4f99-a795-16507395d70b_858x592.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0g0V!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fccd7e45f-d64f-4f99-a795-16507395d70b_858x592.png" width="528" height="364.3076923076923" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ccd7e45f-d64f-4f99-a795-16507395d70b_858x592.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:592,&quot;width&quot;:858,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:528,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0g0V!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fccd7e45f-d64f-4f99-a795-16507395d70b_858x592.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0g0V!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fccd7e45f-d64f-4f99-a795-16507395d70b_858x592.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0g0V!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fccd7e45f-d64f-4f99-a795-16507395d70b_858x592.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0g0V!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fccd7e45f-d64f-4f99-a795-16507395d70b_858x592.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Unlike in France, support from young Muslims tends to be lower than from older Muslims.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>As we said, Sharia means a lot of things. One is finance:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QcTr!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c64474b-b781-4da0-9429-e7c652f8c425_862x604.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QcTr!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c64474b-b781-4da0-9429-e7c652f8c425_862x604.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QcTr!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c64474b-b781-4da0-9429-e7c652f8c425_862x604.png 848w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QcTr!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c64474b-b781-4da0-9429-e7c652f8c425_862x604.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QcTr!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c64474b-b781-4da0-9429-e7c652f8c425_862x604.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QcTr!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c64474b-b781-4da0-9429-e7c652f8c425_862x604.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jHWH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F44a0a13c-c0ae-476d-bcff-e39529af7270_1600x866.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jHWH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F44a0a13c-c0ae-476d-bcff-e39529af7270_1600x866.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jHWH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F44a0a13c-c0ae-476d-bcff-e39529af7270_1600x866.png" width="1600" height="866" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jHWH!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F44a0a13c-c0ae-476d-bcff-e39529af7270_1600x866.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jHWH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F44a0a13c-c0ae-476d-bcff-e39529af7270_1600x866.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jHWH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F44a0a13c-c0ae-476d-bcff-e39529af7270_1600x866.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>This data comes from the <a href="https://policyexchange.org.uk/publication/unsettled-belonging-a-survey-of-britains-muslim-communities/">same survey</a>, but was not graphed, so I used Claude to graph it. The control group is the general population in the UK.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>I have mixed feelings about this one. I think Muslims should be able to teach their children about Islam, and although I personally dislike gender-segregated education, I understand why they might prefer it (like some Christians have gender-segregated schools, too). Some Western schools have gendered dress codes&#8212;including differences for boys and girls, even in non-religious schools&#8212;so I don&#8217;t mind that Muslims would like this for their children.</p><p>I am more concerned about these:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rbSl!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b9244e0-d76f-4de7-b2a4-d40766177f97_1600x987.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rbSl!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b9244e0-d76f-4de7-b2a4-d40766177f97_1600x987.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rbSl!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b9244e0-d76f-4de7-b2a4-d40766177f97_1600x987.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rbSl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b9244e0-d76f-4de7-b2a4-d40766177f97_1600x987.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rbSl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b9244e0-d76f-4de7-b2a4-d40766177f97_1600x987.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rbSl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b9244e0-d76f-4de7-b2a4-d40766177f97_1600x987.png" width="1600" height="987" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4b9244e0-d76f-4de7-b2a4-d40766177f97_1600x987.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:987,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rbSl!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b9244e0-d76f-4de7-b2a4-d40766177f97_1600x987.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rbSl!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b9244e0-d76f-4de7-b2a4-d40766177f97_1600x987.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rbSl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b9244e0-d76f-4de7-b2a4-d40766177f97_1600x987.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rbSl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b9244e0-d76f-4de7-b2a4-d40766177f97_1600x987.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://henryjacksonsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/HJS-Deck-200324-Final.pdf">Source</a> for the data, graph mine</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>These are not about a community that has its own customs and traditions, but about imposing their values on everyone else.</p><p>By far the most worrisome to me here is the illegality of publishing a picture of Prophet Muhammad. I get that this is anathema to Muslims (as is Satanism worship for Christians), but maybe the single most important value of the West is the freedom of speech, which by definition means <em>you should be OK with others saying things you disagree with</em>.<em> <strong>Especially</strong> things you dislike.</em></p><h3>British Muslims Attitudes towards Violence</h3><p>I think what matters most is the relationship to violence. 13% of Muslims think that Islam poses a threat to British national security.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3z_8!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02d2a516-f65f-4a41-80ff-5a13239750c1_1600x416.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3z_8!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02d2a516-f65f-4a41-80ff-5a13239750c1_1600x416.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3z_8!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02d2a516-f65f-4a41-80ff-5a13239750c1_1600x416.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3z_8!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02d2a516-f65f-4a41-80ff-5a13239750c1_1600x416.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3z_8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02d2a516-f65f-4a41-80ff-5a13239750c1_1600x416.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3z_8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02d2a516-f65f-4a41-80ff-5a13239750c1_1600x416.png" width="1600" height="416" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/02d2a516-f65f-4a41-80ff-5a13239750c1_1600x416.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:416,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>And 23% think criticism of Islam is justified.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k-Ma!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb57d775d-8fc8-4e0d-ace9-f94707edb10c_1600x428.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>I find these data points interesting. The numbers are not so different from those of the general public, which I think means several things:</p><ul><li><p>Some Muslims see a threat, and think it should be addressed.</p></li><li><p>Others prefer to see the bright side of Islam and don&#8217;t see a problem.</p></li><li><p>Some might prefer to believe that Muslims are problematic, but that is justified, as a reaction from a racist UK. They don&#8217;t want to overblame Muslims for any conflict.</p></li></ul><p>This is consistent with the British Muslim condemnation of violence, which is higher than for natives.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wxVQ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd578c00-65af-4ffa-bfbb-c1d9549cc388_1224x560.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wxVQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd578c00-65af-4ffa-bfbb-c1d9549cc388_1224x560.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wxVQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd578c00-65af-4ffa-bfbb-c1d9549cc388_1224x560.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wxVQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd578c00-65af-4ffa-bfbb-c1d9549cc388_1224x560.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wxVQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd578c00-65af-4ffa-bfbb-c1d9549cc388_1224x560.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wxVQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd578c00-65af-4ffa-bfbb-c1d9549cc388_1224x560.png" width="1224" height="560" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wxVQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd578c00-65af-4ffa-bfbb-c1d9549cc388_1224x560.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wxVQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd578c00-65af-4ffa-bfbb-c1d9549cc388_1224x560.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wxVQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd578c00-65af-4ffa-bfbb-c1d9549cc388_1224x560.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Nearly half of Muslims think we should do more to combat extremism.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kmT1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3dc3f88f-cf01-4365-8570-c6a92e583e69_1370x1030.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kmT1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3dc3f88f-cf01-4365-8570-c6a92e583e69_1370x1030.png 424w, 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stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>A sizable share of Muslims think Muslims should be the ones to tackle their own radicalization.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Qhj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F69585b8c-687c-481f-9b89-5a376e9aa62d_728x652.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Qhj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F69585b8c-687c-481f-9b89-5a376e9aa62d_728x652.png 424w, 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stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The following data point is one of the most concerning: only 4% of British Muslims think Al Qaeda was behind the 9/11 attacks:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!69Dx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd6b83b9f-18da-42d9-bbeb-b40e98646987_1276x1312.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!69Dx!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd6b83b9f-18da-42d9-bbeb-b40e98646987_1276x1312.png 424w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!69Dx!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd6b83b9f-18da-42d9-bbeb-b40e98646987_1276x1312.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!69Dx!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd6b83b9f-18da-42d9-bbeb-b40e98646987_1276x1312.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!69Dx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd6b83b9f-18da-42d9-bbeb-b40e98646987_1276x1312.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>In most Muslim countries, the belief that Al Qaeda is behind the attacks <a href="https://worldpublicopinion.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf">was above 20% in 2008,</a> although in Pakistan it was 4%, so this could be more imported radicalism than local radicalization. </em></figcaption></figure></div><p>This reminds me of positions on Jews, Israel, and October 7<sup>th</sup> 2023. According to <a href="https://henryjacksonsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/HJS-Deck-200324-Final.pdf">this 2024 survey</a>,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a> Muslims are 2-3x more likely than the general public to think Jews have too much power in finance, media, foreign policy, pharma&#8212;across the UK and the US. Also:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZTAY!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fccfb2e4f-0da2-45fa-978c-dc9d2f4685d9_1466x1166.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZTAY!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fccfb2e4f-0da2-45fa-978c-dc9d2f4685d9_1466x1166.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZTAY!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fccfb2e4f-0da2-45fa-978c-dc9d2f4685d9_1466x1166.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZTAY!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fccfb2e4f-0da2-45fa-978c-dc9d2f4685d9_1466x1166.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZTAY!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fccfb2e4f-0da2-45fa-978c-dc9d2f4685d9_1466x1166.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZTAY!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fccfb2e4f-0da2-45fa-978c-dc9d2f4685d9_1466x1166.png" width="1466" height="1166" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ccfb2e4f-0da2-45fa-978c-dc9d2f4685d9_1466x1166.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1166,&quot;width&quot;:1466,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZTAY!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fccfb2e4f-0da2-45fa-978c-dc9d2f4685d9_1466x1166.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZTAY!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fccfb2e4f-0da2-45fa-978c-dc9d2f4685d9_1466x1166.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZTAY!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fccfb2e4f-0da2-45fa-978c-dc9d2f4685d9_1466x1166.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZTAY!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fccfb2e4f-0da2-45fa-978c-dc9d2f4685d9_1466x1166.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Source: data from the <a href="https://henryjacksonsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/HJS-Deck-200324-Final.pdf">HJS survey, 2024</a>. Graph mine.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Two recent surveys from 2026 have shown data that is also concerning.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MbnH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2e83ea9-2f5a-407c-978a-1ebe5d9527bb_1600x1279.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MbnH!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2e83ea9-2f5a-407c-978a-1ebe5d9527bb_1600x1279.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MbnH!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2e83ea9-2f5a-407c-978a-1ebe5d9527bb_1600x1279.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MbnH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2e83ea9-2f5a-407c-978a-1ebe5d9527bb_1600x1279.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MbnH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2e83ea9-2f5a-407c-978a-1ebe5d9527bb_1600x1279.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MbnH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2e83ea9-2f5a-407c-978a-1ebe5d9527bb_1600x1279.png" width="1600" height="1279" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a2e83ea9-2f5a-407c-978a-1ebe5d9527bb_1600x1279.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1279,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MbnH!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2e83ea9-2f5a-407c-978a-1ebe5d9527bb_1600x1279.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MbnH!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2e83ea9-2f5a-407c-978a-1ebe5d9527bb_1600x1279.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MbnH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2e83ea9-2f5a-407c-978a-1ebe5d9527bb_1600x1279.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MbnH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2e83ea9-2f5a-407c-978a-1ebe5d9527bb_1600x1279.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Share of people who have a favorable opinion of a country minus share of people who have an unfavorable opinion. For the UK and its historic allies / liberal democracies (US / Israel), the difference is in degree: Muslims have a worse opinion than the general public, even though it goes in the same direction as the general public. For the UK&#8217;s traditional opponents, the direction is the opposite and the gap is the largest. <a href="https://policyexchange.org.uk/publication/worlds-apart-british-muslim-attitudes-on-the-iran-conflict/">Source</a>.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>All the authoritarian regimes opposed to Western values (China, Russia, Iran) are highly supported by British Muslims: between 44 and 64 points of difference from the general public!</p><p>What about beliefs?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_ty-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3c8b5943-4ad0-4a58-b63c-9c63fb3a05fb_1826x1411.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><p>This is where Muslims and the general British public differ the most:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!no_2!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70c7d600-8ed3-42ac-ac71-a198f78587e2_1600x1106.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!no_2!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70c7d600-8ed3-42ac-ac71-a198f78587e2_1600x1106.png" width="1004" height="694.015" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/70c7d600-8ed3-42ac-ac71-a198f78587e2_1600x1106.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:1106,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1004,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Thanks to <a href="https://x.com/_alice_evans">Dr Alice Evans</a> for this, probably the world&#8217;s foremost scholar on women&#8217;s rights.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>To note, these positions tend to be shared by both men and women in Islam&#8212;except for what directly affects wives:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H-5e!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa39579cf-dc19-40d2-998a-51c4584164bc_1600x1055.png" 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But a sizable share of British Muslims seem to want to impose some aspects of their customs on the rest of society. Some Muslims are radical: 10% to 25% of UK Muslims have quite radical views on violence and terrorism, and 30% to 60% want to impose some of their beliefs on the rest of society. Bleak. Many moderates agree Muslims should do more to fight them.</p><h2>France</h2><p>One of the most recent, in-depth surveys of Muslim attitudes in Western countries is the <a href="https://www.ifop.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/analyse_ifop_2025.11.18.pdf">2025 survey</a> from the non-partisan<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_fran%C3%A7ais_d%27opinion_publique">IFOP</a>. It found that Islam is growing in France, now comprising 7% of the population.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hYwI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6930749b-f87e-4cdd-8d24-6fce45a58c35_1600x930.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hYwI!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6930749b-f87e-4cdd-8d24-6fce45a58c35_1600x930.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hYwI!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6930749b-f87e-4cdd-8d24-6fce45a58c35_1600x930.png 848w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em><a href="https://www.ifop.com/en/article/current-state-of-muslims-relationship-with-islam-and-islamism-in-france">Source</a></em></p><p>Of all French Muslims, 80% feel religious (87% for young people), and 24% are very or extremely religious.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z_PB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd1cf4f5c-83ba-43a7-8223-32c4c64096c3_1600x969.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z_PB!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd1cf4f5c-83ba-43a7-8223-32c4c64096c3_1600x969.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z_PB!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd1cf4f5c-83ba-43a7-8223-32c4c64096c3_1600x969.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z_PB!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd1cf4f5c-83ba-43a7-8223-32c4c64096c3_1600x969.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z_PB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd1cf4f5c-83ba-43a7-8223-32c4c64096c3_1600x969.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z_PB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd1cf4f5c-83ba-43a7-8223-32c4c64096c3_1600x969.png" width="1600" height="969" 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stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>76% of French Muslims consider themselves religious, but that goes up to <strong>87%</strong> amoung young French Muslims</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>These numbers don&#8217;t change much based on origin, job, sex, and many other variables. Surprisingly, French Muslims whose father was also French (so most likely 3<sup>rd</sup> generation) are <em>more likely</em> to be religious&#8230;</p><p>Over time, and as the share of Muslims grows, their religiosity <em>increases</em>:</p><ul><li><p>French-born Muslims are more likely to be very or extremely religious (23%) than Maghreb-born Muslims (21%).</p></li><li><p>The young are 150% more likely to be very or extremely religious vs those over 50 years old.</p></li><li><p>Over time French Muslims tend to pray more (100% more in the last 30 years), and go more frequently to the mosque (120%).</p></li><li><p>The share of French Muslim women who wear the hijab has nearly tripled, from 16% in 2003 to 45% in 2025. 59% of them wear it because of pressure or risk of not wearing it.</p></li><li><p>In 1998, only 19% of French Muslims thought religion was more right than science on the story of the creation of the world. Now, 65% think religion is right. For young Muslims, it&#8217;s 81%.</p></li><li><p>In 1998, 48% of French Muslims wanted Islam to modernize. Now, only 21% do.</p></li></ul><p>Now, as we said, religion by itself doesn&#8217;t tell us anything. People should be free to follow any religion they want, as long as it doesn&#8217;t impinge on others&#8217; rights. So what does the survey say about that?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NKpH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fed0736de-296d-419f-9205-aa987652a0c9_2437x1406.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NKpH!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fed0736de-296d-419f-9205-aa987652a0c9_2437x1406.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NKpH!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fed0736de-296d-419f-9205-aa987652a0c9_2437x1406.png 848w, 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But a large share of French Muslims (including a majority of youngsters) would prefer the entire country to follow Sharia.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamism">Islamism</a> is incompatible with the West, as it believes it&#8217;s superior and should supplant it. Over a third of French Muslims support it in some form or another. 24% support the Muslim Brotherhood. 8% support all Islamist positions!</p></li><li><p>Freedom of religion is at the heart of the West, but 20% of Muslims disagree! As a reminder, in Islam, the punishment for apostasy is death.</p></li><li><p>The equality of all people is another cornerstone of the West, but several French Muslim positions are incompatible with it, as over 10% of Muslims don&#8217;t want to shake hands with people from the other sex, or share swimming pools with them.</p></li></ul><h2>Denmark</h2><p><a href="https://jyllands-posten.dk/indland/ECE8145237/Muslimske-stemmer-Alle-meningsm%C3%A5lingerne/">This 2015 survey</a> from <a href="https://chatgpt.com/share/69eb79a8-5df4-8386-a05e-8889ee1ae328">the</a> <a href="https://x.com/i/grok?conversation=2047678287988543959">non</a>-<a href="https://claude.ai/share/3e490b30-1bda-4f4b-920a-17ea69cc1bdc">partisan</a> Wilke company asked Danish Muslims what they thought about different topics:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This data again supports the idea that Muslims there are pretty conservative, but these beliefs don&#8217;t impinge on others&#8217; rights. This should be acceptable.</p><p>As we&#8217;ve seen previously, most think Islam and democracy are compatible.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wVTh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7578d3d0-c128-4284-b9e7-4b7ba31bb630_816x455.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wVTh!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7578d3d0-c128-4284-b9e7-4b7ba31bb630_816x455.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wVTh!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7578d3d0-c128-4284-b9e7-4b7ba31bb630_816x455.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wVTh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7578d3d0-c128-4284-b9e7-4b7ba31bb630_816x455.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wVTh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7578d3d0-c128-4284-b9e7-4b7ba31bb630_816x455.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wVTh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7578d3d0-c128-4284-b9e7-4b7ba31bb630_816x455.png" width="508" height="283.2598039215686" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7578d3d0-c128-4284-b9e7-4b7ba31bb630_816x455.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:455,&quot;width&quot;:816,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:508,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wVTh!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7578d3d0-c128-4284-b9e7-4b7ba31bb630_816x455.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wVTh!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7578d3d0-c128-4284-b9e7-4b7ba31bb630_816x455.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wVTh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7578d3d0-c128-4284-b9e7-4b7ba31bb630_816x455.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wVTh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7578d3d0-c128-4284-b9e7-4b7ba31bb630_816x455.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Green: Yes. Red: No.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Again, we find that Muslims think the Quran should be interpreted pretty literally.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qi5p!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e9c9210-614d-4251-aeb9-47908b88bd30_782x375.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qi5p!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e9c9210-614d-4251-aeb9-47908b88bd30_782x375.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qi5p!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e9c9210-614d-4251-aeb9-47908b88bd30_782x375.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qi5p!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e9c9210-614d-4251-aeb9-47908b88bd30_782x375.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qi5p!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e9c9210-614d-4251-aeb9-47908b88bd30_782x375.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qi5p!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e9c9210-614d-4251-aeb9-47908b88bd30_782x375.png" width="550" height="263.7468030690537" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3e9c9210-614d-4251-aeb9-47908b88bd30_782x375.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:375,&quot;width&quot;:782,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:550,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qi5p!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e9c9210-614d-4251-aeb9-47908b88bd30_782x375.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qi5p!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e9c9210-614d-4251-aeb9-47908b88bd30_782x375.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qi5p!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e9c9210-614d-4251-aeb9-47908b88bd30_782x375.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qi5p!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e9c9210-614d-4251-aeb9-47908b88bd30_782x375.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This is concerning: Not only do &#190; of Muslims think this, but that share grew since 2006. And they believe instructions should be followed so fully that 11% of Muslims think the Quran should be the foundation of <strong>all</strong> legislation in Denmark.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sr-O!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4bab0b33-997b-47a1-85c3-2eb92ad019cf_1105x442.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sr-O!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4bab0b33-997b-47a1-85c3-2eb92ad019cf_1105x442.png 424w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!53rR!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb4bb123-0000-4743-a753-1262fa4772c0_1205x750.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!53rR!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb4bb123-0000-4743-a753-1262fa4772c0_1205x750.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!53rR!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb4bb123-0000-4743-a753-1262fa4772c0_1205x750.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The vast majority of Muslims want their children to eat halal food at school.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_EFe!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F118b4d60-e906-44d2-8cba-00a88e48145f_1600x519.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_EFe!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F118b4d60-e906-44d2-8cba-00a88e48145f_1600x519.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_EFe!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F118b4d60-e906-44d2-8cba-00a88e48145f_1600x519.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_EFe!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F118b4d60-e906-44d2-8cba-00a88e48145f_1600x519.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_EFe!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F118b4d60-e906-44d2-8cba-00a88e48145f_1600x519.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_EFe!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F118b4d60-e906-44d2-8cba-00a88e48145f_1600x519.png" width="1600" height="519" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/118b4d60-e906-44d2-8cba-00a88e48145f_1600x519.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:519,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_EFe!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F118b4d60-e906-44d2-8cba-00a88e48145f_1600x519.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_EFe!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F118b4d60-e906-44d2-8cba-00a88e48145f_1600x519.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_EFe!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F118b4d60-e906-44d2-8cba-00a88e48145f_1600x519.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_EFe!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F118b4d60-e906-44d2-8cba-00a88e48145f_1600x519.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>If that&#8217;s what you want for yourself, I think it&#8217;s fair. If you&#8217;re benefiting from the facilities, institutions, and habits of society, it might be too expensive to provide halal food everywhere, so Danish Muslims should not <em>demand</em> it, but they can certainly ask for it. And if there&#8217;s a big contingent of Muslims in a certain area and it&#8217;s easy to cater to both Muslims and non-Muslims, why not?</p><p>But also, let&#8217;s not assume this comes at no cost. Halal food reduces diversity, as it eliminates all pork and alcohol from food, including all its derivatives (lard, bacon, gelatin, marshmallows, cooking with alcohol, some desserts) and makes it more expensive.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a></p><p>Now let&#8217;s dive into the radicalization side.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1WKq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43aebe30-472d-44c7-a85d-4f28f6b47f27_1169x632.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1WKq!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43aebe30-472d-44c7-a85d-4f28f6b47f27_1169x632.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1WKq!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43aebe30-472d-44c7-a85d-4f28f6b47f27_1169x632.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1WKq!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43aebe30-472d-44c7-a85d-4f28f6b47f27_1169x632.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1WKq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43aebe30-472d-44c7-a85d-4f28f6b47f27_1169x632.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1WKq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43aebe30-472d-44c7-a85d-4f28f6b47f27_1169x632.png" width="1169" height="632" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/43aebe30-472d-44c7-a85d-4f28f6b47f27_1169x632.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:632,&quot;width&quot;:1169,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1WKq!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43aebe30-472d-44c7-a85d-4f28f6b47f27_1169x632.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1WKq!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43aebe30-472d-44c7-a85d-4f28f6b47f27_1169x632.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1WKq!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43aebe30-472d-44c7-a85d-4f28f6b47f27_1169x632.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1WKq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43aebe30-472d-44c7-a85d-4f28f6b47f27_1169x632.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The vast majority of Danish Muslims don&#8217;t sympathize with them. 2-3% of them do, however (and 10% don&#8217;t respond&#8230;).</p><p>When asking a more nuanced question, the numbers change a bit.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6jX4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F93077a94-f5db-4e90-b10d-8b525f75c1da_1600x268.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6jX4!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F93077a94-f5db-4e90-b10d-8b525f75c1da_1600x268.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6jX4!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F93077a94-f5db-4e90-b10d-8b525f75c1da_1600x268.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6jX4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F93077a94-f5db-4e90-b10d-8b525f75c1da_1600x268.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6jX4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F93077a94-f5db-4e90-b10d-8b525f75c1da_1600x268.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6jX4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F93077a94-f5db-4e90-b10d-8b525f75c1da_1600x268.png" width="1600" height="268" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/93077a94-f5db-4e90-b10d-8b525f75c1da_1600x268.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:268,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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nearly 7% of Danish Muslims think drawing Muhammad merits death&#8230;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aOS5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffb19415c-b9bf-4227-b08c-a0af87751335_1600x439.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aOS5!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffb19415c-b9bf-4227-b08c-a0af87751335_1600x439.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aOS5!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffb19415c-b9bf-4227-b08c-a0af87751335_1600x439.png 848w, 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stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Omar <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Copenhagen_shootings#Perpetrator">was</a> a Danish-born Muslim who tried to replicate the Charlie Hebdo killings by shooting at a person who drew Muhammad. </em></figcaption></figure></div><p>This is very concerning to me. It&#8217;s one thing to say you don&#8217;t support political violence in the abstract, but then 44% of Danish Muslims believe society is in part to blame for political violence. What exactly did society do wrong? Why doesn&#8217;t this happen with other cultures and religions? Is the thought behind this that: &#8220;<em>You can draw Muhammad, but then don&#8217;t complain when you get shot&#8221;?</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LMAI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F99ee9e9b-895b-4849-a221-792425b17bf9_1600x429.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LMAI!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F99ee9e9b-895b-4849-a221-792425b17bf9_1600x429.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LMAI!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F99ee9e9b-895b-4849-a221-792425b17bf9_1600x429.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LMAI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F99ee9e9b-895b-4849-a221-792425b17bf9_1600x429.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LMAI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F99ee9e9b-895b-4849-a221-792425b17bf9_1600x429.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LMAI!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F99ee9e9b-895b-4849-a221-792425b17bf9_1600x429.png" width="1200" height="321.75" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/99ee9e9b-895b-4849-a221-792425b17bf9_1600x429.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:429,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LMAI!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F99ee9e9b-895b-4849-a221-792425b17bf9_1600x429.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LMAI!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F99ee9e9b-895b-4849-a221-792425b17bf9_1600x429.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LMAI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F99ee9e9b-895b-4849-a221-792425b17bf9_1600x429.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LMAI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F99ee9e9b-895b-4849-a221-792425b17bf9_1600x429.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This to me is the perfect illustration, because it shows how common this opinion is. On one side, I understand the Muslim position: There is racism in Western countries&#8212;like in all societies. And racism towards Muslim is especially prevalent in Europe. But that doesn&#8217;t justify violence, as many Muslims think. This attitude only breeds further racism. If a group wants to integrate, it must <em>police itself</em>, in thought and in actions. It must understand that they are entering a host country, and they need to make an effort to adjust to local norms.</p><h2>Austria</h2><p>An Austrian survey of young Muslims in Vienna in 2019<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a> shows similar data, so I&#8217;ll just paste the relevant graphs here<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a> (note the comparison with the non-migrant background, which is Viennese youth with both parents born in Austria).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Tkms!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faee4607c-00d2-4d10-9da8-72794e143052_1012x1198.png" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Another interesting fact: the more religious the person, the less they believe in democracy and individual rights, and the more they believe in prejudice and violence.</p><p>The capital city of Austria, Vienna, released <a href="https://www.data.gv.at/datasets/38fed360-2d4d-44ba-ab07-aae8f076b7d5?locale=de">a report</a> just this week on this topic,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-12" href="#footnote-12" target="_self">12</a> and apparently it shares the same type of data as what we&#8217;ve already seen, so I won&#8217;t go into much more detail.</p><h2>Germany</h2><p>In Germany, the <a href="https://www.jura.uni-hamburg.de/media/die-fakultaet/aktuelles/motra-monitor-2024-25-buch-kemmesies-et-al-2026.pdf">MOTRA-Monitor 2024/25</a> is a monster 600-page report on the state of the country, and the picture is one of radicalization in all directions. 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Source: Tomas Pueyo for Uncharted Territories, based on data from the <a href="https://www.jura.uni-hamburg.de/media/die-fakultaet/aktuelles/motra-monitor-2024-25-buch-kemmesies-et-al-2026.pdf">MOTRA-Monitor 2025 survey</a></em>.</figcaption></figure></div><p>How did they assess that? They looked at the answer to these eight questions and blended them:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q_3Q!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2b11421c-5523-414e-948a-ae5f3dd52da1_2333x1377.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q_3Q!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2b11421c-5523-414e-948a-ae5f3dd52da1_2333x1377.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q_3Q!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2b11421c-5523-414e-948a-ae5f3dd52da1_2333x1377.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q_3Q!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2b11421c-5523-414e-948a-ae5f3dd52da1_2333x1377.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q_3Q!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2b11421c-5523-414e-948a-ae5f3dd52da1_2333x1377.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q_3Q!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2b11421c-5523-414e-948a-ae5f3dd52da1_2333x1377.png" width="972" height="573.4532967032967" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2b11421c-5523-414e-948a-ae5f3dd52da1_2333x1377.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:859,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:972,&quot;bytes&quot;:203034,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/i/197680981?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2b11421c-5523-414e-948a-ae5f3dd52da1_2333x1377.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q_3Q!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2b11421c-5523-414e-948a-ae5f3dd52da1_2333x1377.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q_3Q!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2b11421c-5523-414e-948a-ae5f3dd52da1_2333x1377.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q_3Q!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2b11421c-5523-414e-948a-ae5f3dd52da1_2333x1377.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q_3Q!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2b11421c-5523-414e-948a-ae5f3dd52da1_2333x1377.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>So the silver lining is that more than half of German Muslims don&#8217;t think this way. This is so bleak, though. Nearly half of German Muslims think only Islam can solve the problems of our time. A quarter think the rules of the Quran matter more than German law, and that an Islamic theocracy is the best form of government&#8230;</p><p>This is not an artifact of men vs women,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-13" href="#footnote-13" target="_self">13</a> nor of education levels, nor age:<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-14" href="#footnote-14" target="_self">14</a> women and educated (high school and above) German Muslims are nearly as Islamist or open to it as male or low-education Muslims. Young Muslims are over <em>4x</em> <em>more radical</em> than older ones.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-15" href="#footnote-15" target="_self">15</a></p><h1>Takeaways</h1><p>From all this data, a picture emerges about Muslims in Western countries.</p><p>First, the US is different from Europe. American Muslims seem much better integrated, and hold less radical views, than their counterparts in Europe.</p><p>Second, Muslims in general like the countries they&#8217;re in, and appreciate democracy. They identify with their host countries, although their allegiance tends to be to Islam first.</p><p>It looks like 20-50% of Muslims are extremely well assimilated into their host countries and hold views quite similar to those of the average native.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-16" href="#footnote-16" target="_self">16</a> These people are so important! They&#8217;re the bridge between natives and more conservative or even radical immigrants, and we should support them.</p><p>A large majority of Muslim immigrants tend to be more religious, pious, and conservative than natives or moderate Muslims. This is neither good nor bad per se; I respect how people want to live, and I enjoy the diversity of lifestyles, although diversity of values brings challenges and costs in politics. I respect their common desire to pray, have a mosque to do it in, eat halal, wear traditional clothes, and provide a separate education to girls and boys. These are things many Christians or Jews desire for their children, too, so we should respect and welcome them.</p><p>I am less comfortable with the 20-50% who seem more fundamentalist, who think Islam should return to its roots, be interpreted literally, or that religious rules are more important than secular ones. These beliefs are incompatible with Western values and institutions. That&#8217;s 9 to 20 million Muslims in Europe, and these beliefs should be acively pushed back on.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-17" href="#footnote-17" target="_self">17</a></p><p>The intolerance is worse. I am even less comfortable with the fairly common position that homosexuality should be banned, that Jews have too much power and can&#8217;t be trusted, or that women should have fewer rights than men. 10-50% of Muslims wanting to make drawings of Muhammad illegal is an unacceptably high number, and 7-24% who think making these drawings or burning a sacred book justifies killing the person who did it is really bad.</p><p>20-50% Muslims are concerned about extremism. This is good news, and as we said, we need them to act on it. </p><p>Because extremism is real and way too common. Depending on their Western host country, you can find numbers like ~25% who think Islam is incompatible with Western values, ~15% who support full Sharia law, ~30% who support some Islamist positions and institutions, ~10%-25% who support Hamas or Jihad, and the support for terrorist organizations like ISIS or Al Qaeda ranges from 2% to 16%. If we assume this group is ~15% of European Muslims, that&#8217;s about 8M European Muslims.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JOeo!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3ff7d53-3192-475d-b3ec-8f76adccaf57_619x900.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JOeo!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3ff7d53-3192-475d-b3ec-8f76adccaf57_619x900.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JOeo!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3ff7d53-3192-475d-b3ec-8f76adccaf57_619x900.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JOeo!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3ff7d53-3192-475d-b3ec-8f76adccaf57_619x900.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JOeo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3ff7d53-3192-475d-b3ec-8f76adccaf57_619x900.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JOeo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3ff7d53-3192-475d-b3ec-8f76adccaf57_619x900.png" width="243" height="353.3117932148627" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f3ff7d53-3192-475d-b3ec-8f76adccaf57_619x900.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:900,&quot;width&quot;:619,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:243,&quot;bytes&quot;:36563,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/i/197680981?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3ff7d53-3192-475d-b3ec-8f76adccaf57_619x900.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JOeo!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3ff7d53-3192-475d-b3ec-8f76adccaf57_619x900.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JOeo!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3ff7d53-3192-475d-b3ec-8f76adccaf57_619x900.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JOeo!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3ff7d53-3192-475d-b3ec-8f76adccaf57_619x900.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JOeo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3ff7d53-3192-475d-b3ec-8f76adccaf57_619x900.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Very high-level breakdown of beliefs of Muslim immigrants in Europe. The numbers vary by country of origin, country of destination, community, religiousness, age, type of question, how it&#8217;s asked&#8230;</em></figcaption></figure></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/what-do-muslim-immigrants-think-in?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/what-do-muslim-immigrants-think-in?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p>All of this comes with the other side of the coin, which is racism and Islamophobia. These feed into each other. But there are also other factors in place, such a asylum seekers vs economic migrants, policies for work and welfare, and much more. So what does all this mean? What actions should we take to address all of this? For that, we can&#8217;t just look at beliefs, because many times people say one thing and do another. Beliefs only inform us on what people are more likely to say and do, but not on what they actually do. We must look at actions, too: What is the net contribution of Muslim immigrants to Western society? How can we improve it? That&#8217;s where we&#8217;re going in the next article.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p><em>This is an extraordinarily sensitive topic. It&#8217;s not easy to do it justice. I tried and am guaranteed to have failed&#8212;hopefully less than most writing on this topic. So please, share your thoughts and knowledge on the topic, but keep your comments constructive and civil.</em></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>One caveat across the entire article: Nearly <a href="https://x.com/David_J_Bier/status/2035111364901875752?s=20">25%</a> of those raised Muslim in the US don&#8217;t consider themselves Muslim anymore. This might influence some surveys, because AFAIK, these surveys tend to qualify people as Muslims by asking them if they identify as Muslim. If a person raised as Muslim says they don&#8217;t identify as Muslim, then we&#8217;ll miss in the survey that 25% of the sample is fully assimilated into the host country. If this was widespread enough, it would explain how a society can become more Muslim and more radical without causing a long-term conflict: Muslims would be the mix of new immigrants plus the more radical remnants of existing Muslims (thus appearing more radical). The new immigrants could be enough to keep increasing the number of Muslims, even though the leakage through assimilation was strong. In France, this number is <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2017/11/29/appendix-a-methodology-europes-muslim-population/">10%</a>, and it looks like in many countries, the number of people leaving Islam is quite low (remember, Islam says apostasy deserves death). So I think that, overall, we can disregard this effect, except for in the US, where it&#8217;s so strong. Another show of how the US integrates people so much better than other places.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>SCIICS, large-scale telephone survey, 2008, for the Netherlands, Germany, France, Belgium, Austria and Sweden.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>But more hostile to Muslims than non-religious Muslims were to the West.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>From <a href="https://x.com/i/grok/share/9337a43ff2c340e18ec3ea1bc9d5d568">the</a> <a href="https://chatgpt.com/share/69eb51a5-87cc-838d-a050-be7eedb300fc">center</a>-<a href="https://claude.ai/share/78a9601a-8844-47ec-b40c-e686321ddf78">right</a> <a href="http://policyexchange.org.uk">Policy Exchange</a>.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>The charts in this section come from <a href="https://policyexchange.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/Understanding-Islamopopulism_.pdf">the</a> <a href="https://www.channel4.com/news/media/pdfs/top_lines.pdf">two</a> cited surveys.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Jackson_Society">Henry Jackson Society</a> self-describes as non-partisan, but left-wing critics consider it right-wing. I asked ChatGPT and <a href="https://chatgpt.com/share/6a008737-82d4-8390-908c-a17e03241bd6">it told me</a> that it&#8217;s formally non-party-political, but it&#8217;s a center-right / neoconservative foreign-policy and security think tank that presents itself as cross-party and has had some cross-party associations, especially historically.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>The French Left and pro-Muslim groups have <a href="https://m.americanmuslimtoday.com/details/5a1dca74-9c07-4340-8f35-c4e096b73ea3">accused</a> the IFOP of pro-right bias. Is that true? The IFOP is one of the oldest survey companies in France (created in 1938). <a href="https://politpro.eu/en/france/polling-institutes">PolitPro has assessed</a> survey companies and considers IFOP the most reliable. IFOP has <a href="https://www.ifop.com/en/article/french-support-for-various-left-wing-measures">worked</a> for the French Socialist Party, and has published <a href="https://www.ifop.com/en/article/french-support-for-various-left-wing-measures">surveys with pro-left findings</a>. <a href="https://x.com/i/grok?conversation=2047586649693966430">Grok</a>, <a href="https://chatgpt.com/share/69eb2a2a-23e8-838e-a1e4-a969d1189ff7">ChatGPT</a>, and <a href="https://claude.ai/share/4cc90eb0-e241-4e2c-bec6-58dfa0f074d0">Claude</a> all think IFOP is neutral. As a reminder, <a href="https://chatgpt.com/share/69eb2a2a-23e8-838e-a1e4-a969d1189ff7">ChatGPT</a> and Claude <a href="https://x.com/i/grok/share/ad6f447afc1f469785f27a24c065e167">lean</a> <a href="https://claude.ai/share/717a81cf-f5fb-4543-9263-14643eb067e4">left</a>, and Grok <a href="https://chatgpt.com/share/69eb2ab4-e520-8390-827d-48978aae2983">leans</a> right of them, but <a href="https://claude.ai/share/e02fd869-ffb3-45bf-9b5c-168fd2f588f0">still left</a>.I looked into <a href="https://cfcm-officiel.fr/communique-le-cfcm-met-en-garde-contre-linstrumentalisation-des-sondages-sur-les-musulmans-de-france/">the actual criticism</a> of the IFOP by a <a href="https://cfcm-officiel.fr/">French Muslim organization</a>, and these criticisms include the fact that it increases islamophobia (that doesn&#8217;t mean that a fact is false, just that it&#8217;s inconvenient), that it undermines right-wing talking points by highlighting that 7% of the French are Muslim (which lends credence to the IFOP data being accurate), or that the sample size is small (1,000 is reasonable and the methodology uses standard statistics, with standard errors, some sample bias, etc). The main criticism is that this type of survey (<a href="https://www.ifop.com/en/article/current-state-of-muslims-relationship-with-islam-and-islamism-in-france">methodology here</a>, seems robust to me) carries some biases, but again, this is standard practice. All surveys have these types of biases. The question is: Are they likely to completely misrepresent reality? One of the most telling facts is that younger Muslims appear more Islamist than their parents. The criticism itself claims that this is because older Muslims had to conceal their Islam, but younger ones are prouder of it. This does not sound to me like a bias of a survey: If parents and children are similarly radical, but the parents conceal it while the children don&#8217;t, it sounds like the children are indeed more radical, since they feel more comfortable discussing their radicalism. If anything, it means society is more tolerant of their radicalism while their radicalism remains the same or is higher. The other big criticism of the survey is that ~35% of France&#8217;s Muslims (of which there are ~7M) declare going to the mosque every Friday. That&#8217;s about 2M Muslims, but there is only room for 500k people in French mosques. The mismatch can be explained by social desirability bias (people want to look more religious than they actually are), uneven capacity utilization, multiple prayer sessions or overflow practices (Mosques often hold multiple Friday prayer sessions at staggered times or use overflow areas, courtyards, or streets).Based on all this, I conclude that IFOP is probably low bias, and it seems like its survey results reflect the reality of what French Muslims say, rather than what they do (but here we care about Muslim thought, so this is perfectly on point).</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>5%&#8211;30% according to ChatGPT</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>Isn&#8217;t that like blaming victims of rape because they were too scantily dressed or drank too much?</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>Junge Menschen mit muslimischer Pr&#228;gung in Wien, Kenan G&#252;ng&#246;r, et. al, November 2019</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>I generated them through Claude by uploading the pdf and asking it to graph them. Since I don&#8217;t speak enough German, I didn&#8217;t spot-check, but the numbers are very similar to the other stuff we&#8217;ve seen.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-12" href="#footnote-anchor-12" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">12</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>Data from December 2024. The methodology is questioned, because half the sample was collected by asking people in busy streets on a Friday evening in four locations in Vienna, and the other half online. The two samples were very different in results, but the report just averages them out. My take on this is that the street samples are probably very biased towards more moderate Muslims (which I assume are more likely to go out on a Friday night), and also biased them further towards moderation (they answered the questions discretely on their own on iPads, but being in a public area and handing out an iPad probably makes the answers more attuned to what&#8217;s expected of them), whereas the online sample is probably more revealing of the true attitudes (they came from the survey company&#8217;s existing panel).</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-13" href="#footnote-anchor-13" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">13</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>There are fewer Islamist women, but they are more radical: 10.3% of Muslim women were manifestly Islamist in 2025, and 16.6% were latent/open, for a total of 27%. For men, these numbers were 9.8%, 22.7%, and 32.5%.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-14" href="#footnote-anchor-14" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">14</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>9.7% of low-schooled Muslims (up to Hauptschule) are Islamists, and 9.2% of those with full high school / university entry level. For openness to Islamism only, the numbers are 30.4% and 25.7%. In other words, 35% of German Muslims with high school or higher education are either Islamist or open to it&#8230;</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-15" href="#footnote-anchor-15" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">15</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>In 2025, 45% of Muslims under 40 hold at least latently Islamist attitudes (11.5% manifest + 33.6% latent), compared to around 35% of 40&#8211;59 year-olds and under 10% of those aged 60 and over.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-16" href="#footnote-anchor-16" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">16</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>On the lower side of the range in Europe, on the higher side in the US. This is true for all results.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-17" href="#footnote-anchor-17" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">17</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>If we accept ~45M as the number of Muslims in Europe.</em></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[What Do Muslims Believe ?]]></title><description><![CDATA[Around the world, about the Values Westerners Are Worried About]]></description><link>https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/what-do-muslims-think</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/what-do-muslims-think</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomas Pueyo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2026 12:24:41 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lync!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4ffb2370-39e2-47e9-a756-d4f71db1f445_1600x821.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard about ideological clashes between Muslims and the West for decades, but it seems to be increasing recently in Europe with the rise of Muslim immigration, and it&#8217;s now at the center of many elections.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> One side claims that Muslims are like any other religious group. 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What?!</p><p>It made me think of this:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pUM7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcbaee918-b9ef-45e4-ac9f-1d5bc5b23f57_692x1363.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pUM7!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcbaee918-b9ef-45e4-ac9f-1d5bc5b23f57_692x1363.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pUM7!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcbaee918-b9ef-45e4-ac9f-1d5bc5b23f57_692x1363.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pUM7!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcbaee918-b9ef-45e4-ac9f-1d5bc5b23f57_692x1363.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pUM7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcbaee918-b9ef-45e4-ac9f-1d5bc5b23f57_692x1363.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pUM7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcbaee918-b9ef-45e4-ac9f-1d5bc5b23f57_692x1363.png" width="274" height="539.6849710982659" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/cbaee918-b9ef-45e4-ac9f-1d5bc5b23f57_692x1363.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1363,&quot;width&quot;:692,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:274,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pUM7!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcbaee918-b9ef-45e4-ac9f-1d5bc5b23f57_692x1363.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pUM7!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcbaee918-b9ef-45e4-ac9f-1d5bc5b23f57_692x1363.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pUM7!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcbaee918-b9ef-45e4-ac9f-1d5bc5b23f57_692x1363.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pUM7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcbaee918-b9ef-45e4-ac9f-1d5bc5b23f57_692x1363.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This represents the idea that, nowadays, women can easily have sex, so they gravitate towards attractive men, which is bad for unattractive men (no access to sex), and bad for all women (heightened competition for a few men only), while attractive men get all the access to sex they want and end up not partnering up.</p><p>Are these things true? Do men really reproduce less than women? Is it because historically, the more attractive men could hoard the women, leaving the least attractive men out of luck? If that&#8217;s the case, how frequent was it? How did different societies deal with this problem? Did it lead to violence? And what about today? Do more women than men still reproduce? How has technology like Tinder or contraception changed this? What can we predict about the future of sex, reproduction, and violence?</p><h1>1. Men Don&#8217;t Reproduce as Much</h1><p>Let&#8217;s start with the initial claim: If 80% of women reproduce and only 40% of men, that means women have been 2x more likely to reproduce than men in history. Is this true? This is an <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4381518/">estimate of how many women<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> reproduced</a> in a studied population throughout history:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kRsh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F275b1b55-f145-4e56-9026-f335a6e47b23_912x990.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kRsh!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F275b1b55-f145-4e56-9026-f335a6e47b23_912x990.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kRsh!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F275b1b55-f145-4e56-9026-f335a6e47b23_912x990.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kRsh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F275b1b55-f145-4e56-9026-f335a6e47b23_912x990.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kRsh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F275b1b55-f145-4e56-9026-f335a6e47b23_912x990.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kRsh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F275b1b55-f145-4e56-9026-f335a6e47b23_912x990.png" width="482" height="523.2236842105264" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/275b1b55-f145-4e56-9026-f335a6e47b23_912x990.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:990,&quot;width&quot;:912,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:482,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kRsh!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F275b1b55-f145-4e56-9026-f335a6e47b23_912x990.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kRsh!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F275b1b55-f145-4e56-9026-f335a6e47b23_912x990.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kRsh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F275b1b55-f145-4e56-9026-f335a6e47b23_912x990.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kRsh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F275b1b55-f145-4e56-9026-f335a6e47b23_912x990.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Notice how the human population starts exploding about 70,000 years ago, around the time of the 2<sup>nd</sup> move out of Africa. Then, there&#8217;s a new explosion around 10,000-12,000 years ago, around the time of the end of the last ice age.</p><p>But this is for females. How did males reproduce in comparison?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z4Wn!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40706277-2353-4ff8-8fb9-6c8b247567ba_1600x891.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z4Wn!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40706277-2353-4ff8-8fb9-6c8b247567ba_1600x891.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z4Wn!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40706277-2353-4ff8-8fb9-6c8b247567ba_1600x891.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z4Wn!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40706277-2353-4ff8-8fb9-6c8b247567ba_1600x891.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z4Wn!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40706277-2353-4ff8-8fb9-6c8b247567ba_1600x891.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z4Wn!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40706277-2353-4ff8-8fb9-6c8b247567ba_1600x891.png" width="1200" height="668.25" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z4Wn!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40706277-2353-4ff8-8fb9-6c8b247567ba_1600x891.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z4Wn!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40706277-2353-4ff8-8fb9-6c8b247567ba_1600x891.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z4Wn!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40706277-2353-4ff8-8fb9-6c8b247567ba_1600x891.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>I had to collapse the vertical axis for males because in the original paper, the researchers used different scales, which defeats the purpose of comparing them!</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Assuming that 80% of women reproduced at any given time, what does this tell us about the share of men who reproduced?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mz0l!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4eb08ae8-4571-41c1-a255-1b30b3d78991_1438x1213.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This is bonkers!! It means historically only about a quarter of men reproduced!?<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a></p><p>This maps tells you where:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MqER!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86ed0f0c-5e92-4ce1-9dc3-62dab2c83890_1200x856.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MqER!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86ed0f0c-5e92-4ce1-9dc3-62dab2c83890_1200x856.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MqER!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86ed0f0c-5e92-4ce1-9dc3-62dab2c83890_1200x856.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MqER!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86ed0f0c-5e92-4ce1-9dc3-62dab2c83890_1200x856.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MqER!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86ed0f0c-5e92-4ce1-9dc3-62dab2c83890_1200x856.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MqER!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86ed0f0c-5e92-4ce1-9dc3-62dab2c83890_1200x856.png" width="1200" height="856" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/86ed0f0c-5e92-4ce1-9dc3-62dab2c83890_1200x856.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:856,&quot;width&quot;:1200,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MqER!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86ed0f0c-5e92-4ce1-9dc3-62dab2c83890_1200x856.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MqER!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86ed0f0c-5e92-4ce1-9dc3-62dab2c83890_1200x856.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MqER!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86ed0f0c-5e92-4ce1-9dc3-62dab2c83890_1200x856.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MqER!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86ed0f0c-5e92-4ce1-9dc3-62dab2c83890_1200x856.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>In Europe and Eurasia, the male source individuals were 85-95% fewer than the female source individuals! Red numbers: estimated female effective population size; blue numbers: estimated male effective population size; top number near each triangle: &#8220;current&#8221; effective size for that regional sample; bottom number near each triangle: ancestral/founding effective size for that regional lineage; black oval &#8220;26 / 15&#8221;: estimated effective size of the initial out-of-Africa bottleneck: ~26 females, ~15 males; black arrow dates: inferred divergence times in years before present; arrows schematic ancestry/migration splits, not literal routes. <a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/2041-2223-5-13">Source</a>.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>How is this possible?</p><h3>Homosexuality</h3><p>About <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_sexual_orientation">3%</a> of men consider themselves fully homosexual, so it can explain only a tiny part of this gap.</p><h3>Polygyny</h3><p>The most logical explanation for this would be polygamy (one person marrying several people of the other sex), which generally means polygyny (one man, several women).<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> If the average man who marries has 3 wives, it means about &#8532; of men won&#8217;t have a wife.</p><h3>The Sexual Violence Problem</h3><p>This causes a lot of conflict. Because you get a lot of men who can&#8217;t access sex and reproduction. So societies had three options.</p><p>One was to just be violent, with men killing other men and kidnapping and raping women. That is not very stable at all, so such societies quickly learn to focus the violence outwards: They organize in clans and tribes where you&#8217;re not supposed to kill each other, and should raid your neighbor instead.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3s3c!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04968bae-4346-4f0e-81d6-d6d720c12525_1422x1838.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3s3c!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04968bae-4346-4f0e-81d6-d6d720c12525_1422x1838.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3s3c!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04968bae-4346-4f0e-81d6-d6d720c12525_1422x1838.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3s3c!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04968bae-4346-4f0e-81d6-d6d720c12525_1422x1838.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3s3c!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04968bae-4346-4f0e-81d6-d6d720c12525_1422x1838.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3s3c!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04968bae-4346-4f0e-81d6-d6d720c12525_1422x1838.png" width="407" height="526.0661040787624" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/04968bae-4346-4f0e-81d6-d6d720c12525_1422x1838.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1838,&quot;width&quot;:1422,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:407,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3s3c!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04968bae-4346-4f0e-81d6-d6d720c12525_1422x1838.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3s3c!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04968bae-4346-4f0e-81d6-d6d720c12525_1422x1838.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3s3c!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04968bae-4346-4f0e-81d6-d6d720c12525_1422x1838.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3s3c!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04968bae-4346-4f0e-81d6-d6d720c12525_1422x1838.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The societies that managed to do this at scale were able to spread extremely fast. Examples include the <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/why-did-vikings-appear-out-of-nowhere">Vikings</a> and the <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-did-islam-spread-so-fast">Arab Muslims</a>: In both cases, they had serious polygyny, and men were recruited to go raid foreigners and take their women as partners, concubines, or slaves. The Muslims had the added brilliant idea of telling recruits: &#8220;<em>Even if you die fighting, don&#8217;t worry, you&#8217;ll get your women in heaven.&#8221;</em></p><p>For example, we know from DNA analysis that <a href="https://www.science.org/content/article/vikings-genetic-legacy">80%</a> of the Icelandic male DNA was originally from Scandinavia, whereas 60% of women&#8217;s is Gaelic.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> So the most common way that Iceland was settled was with Scandinavian men taking Gaelic women in the British Isles and settling in Iceland. Something similar happened in Arab territories:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SjiS!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5e4b5a72-a824-44aa-85a2-48a3e74340b0_612x431.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SjiS!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5e4b5a72-a824-44aa-85a2-48a3e74340b0_612x431.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SjiS!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5e4b5a72-a824-44aa-85a2-48a3e74340b0_612x431.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SjiS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5e4b5a72-a824-44aa-85a2-48a3e74340b0_612x431.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SjiS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5e4b5a72-a824-44aa-85a2-48a3e74340b0_612x431.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SjiS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5e4b5a72-a824-44aa-85a2-48a3e74340b0_612x431.png" width="612" height="431" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5e4b5a72-a824-44aa-85a2-48a3e74340b0_612x431.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:431,&quot;width&quot;:612,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SjiS!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5e4b5a72-a824-44aa-85a2-48a3e74340b0_612x431.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SjiS!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5e4b5a72-a824-44aa-85a2-48a3e74340b0_612x431.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SjiS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5e4b5a72-a824-44aa-85a2-48a3e74340b0_612x431.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SjiS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5e4b5a72-a824-44aa-85a2-48a3e74340b0_612x431.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>The Y chromosome is mostly handed down from father to son without much modification, which helps us track male lineages across many generations. Similarly, mitochondrial DNA is handed down from mother to children with no modification.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>So very certainly part of the difference between male and female reproduction is that some men hoarded women, so other men either didn&#8217;t have access to women and didn&#8217;t reproduce, or had to go to war or raid neighbors to get women. They would either die trying, or succeed and extinguish the male line of the conquered.</p><p>It doesn&#8217;t always need to be violent though. For example, the Swahili Coast in Africa has in some places up to 80-90% of male ancestors from Persia, India and Arabia, with nearly 100% local female ancestors, from Africa.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Fm2C!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a88e30a-4d3f-4bdc-8a24-34ff8998705c_397x338.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Fm2C!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a88e30a-4d3f-4bdc-8a24-34ff8998705c_397x338.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Fm2C!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a88e30a-4d3f-4bdc-8a24-34ff8998705c_397x338.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Fm2C!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a88e30a-4d3f-4bdc-8a24-34ff8998705c_397x338.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Fm2C!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a88e30a-4d3f-4bdc-8a24-34ff8998705c_397x338.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Fm2C!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a88e30a-4d3f-4bdc-8a24-34ff8998705c_397x338.png" width="397" height="338" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/1a88e30a-4d3f-4bdc-8a24-34ff8998705c_397x338.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:338,&quot;width&quot;:397,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Fm2C!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a88e30a-4d3f-4bdc-8a24-34ff8998705c_397x338.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Fm2C!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a88e30a-4d3f-4bdc-8a24-34ff8998705c_397x338.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Fm2C!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a88e30a-4d3f-4bdc-8a24-34ff8998705c_397x338.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Fm2C!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a88e30a-4d3f-4bdc-8a24-34ff8998705c_397x338.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Swahili coast, in Africa</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>This was from trade: Rich Muslim traders would come and marry local women. But slaves were part of the traded goods, and so some of the partnerships would have been coerced rather than free.</p><p>Conversely, some Arabic ancestry <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929707606302">comes from African women</a>, but not men. Given that Arabs traded African slaves, the most logical explanation is that they didn&#8217;t let African men reproduce in Arabia,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> but some of the African women slaves did reproduce with the men.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a></p><h3>Age</h3><p>This one blew my mind. There&#8217;s a second way a polygynous society can manage the sex imbalance: Growth plus age differences. This explains why old men marry young women in Muslim countries.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a></p><p>If you have 100 men, and they each have on average two wives, you need 200 women. How can you get them? You can solve that if the men are 40 years old and the women are 20 years old.</p><p>The women have four children each, for a total of eight children per father&#8212;approximately four boys and four girls. That means that our total population of 100 men and 200 women becomes, 20 years later, 800 men and 800 women.</p><p>The women marry immediately and have children,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a> but not the men! The 800 men have to wait 20 more years. By the time they do, there&#8217;s been a new generation. Now there are 1600 men and 1600 women aged 20: Enough women so there&#8217;s two of them per man!</p><p>Another way to think about this: If every generation is twice as big as the previous one, every man can simply marry, when he is older, two younger women of the next generation.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LJ4r!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F771585a5-b0f7-4979-8b58-16fb9d706722_875x653.gif" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LJ4r!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F771585a5-b0f7-4979-8b58-16fb9d706722_875x653.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LJ4r!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F771585a5-b0f7-4979-8b58-16fb9d706722_875x653.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LJ4r!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F771585a5-b0f7-4979-8b58-16fb9d706722_875x653.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LJ4r!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F771585a5-b0f7-4979-8b58-16fb9d706722_875x653.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LJ4r!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F771585a5-b0f7-4979-8b58-16fb9d706722_875x653.gif" width="875" height="653" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/771585a5-b0f7-4979-8b58-16fb9d706722_875x653.gif&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:653,&quot;width&quot;:875,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LJ4r!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F771585a5-b0f7-4979-8b58-16fb9d706722_875x653.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LJ4r!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F771585a5-b0f7-4979-8b58-16fb9d706722_875x653.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LJ4r!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F771585a5-b0f7-4979-8b58-16fb9d706722_875x653.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LJ4r!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F771585a5-b0f7-4979-8b58-16fb9d706722_875x653.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Purple is women, blue is men. In generation 1, there&#8217;s one 40 year old man and two 20 year old women who marry, and have eight kids in the 2nd generation (four kids per woman), four girls and four boys. The four girls marry when they are 20 with two 40 year old men from Gen 0. They have together the 3rd generation, made of 16 children (again, four kids each), eight girls and eight boys. The eight girls in Gen 3 marry the four boys from Gen 2, and have together 32 kids. And so on.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>So by marrying women young enough, remaining fertile, and having lots of children, you can actually maintain a highly polygynous society while all men still have women!</p><p>Something like that has happened in high-growth polygynous societies across the world. It&#8217;s one of the reasons I believe old men marry young girls in some Muslim countries. I don&#8217;t like it (and with children it&#8217;s abhorrent), but that&#8217;s the logic.</p><p>This wouldn&#8217;t explain why men have had more children than women though&#8212;in fact, it increases the mystery, because it could explain away polygyny without the need for women reproducing more than men.</p><h3>Monogamy</h3><p>The other way to handle this problem is by forbidding polygamy. If everybody is monogamous, everybody can pair up and have children. Yay!</p><p>This has a big advantage: Instead of pouring resources (men) into violence against each other to fight for women, who are then raped and / or kidnapped, you can focus all the energy on building stuff and accumulating wealth.</p><p>This might be one of the reasons why the Greeks (and later, Romans), who were uniquely monogamous, were so successful. They imbued this into Christianity<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a>, which then spread the concept around the world.</p><p>Islam and China were not technically monogamous, but in practice the vast majority of marriages have been, I assume for the same reason.</p><p>A study looked at the ratio of men to women in several societies, and assuming 80% of women have had surviving descendants, then in East Asian societies about 72% of men had surviving descendants; in Europe it&#8217;s 62%, and in Nigeria (Yoruba) it&#8217;s 57%. So we can see in the data that monogamy might have indeed had a strong impact in balancing reproduction and descendants&#8212;which gives credence to the idea that polygyny was originally one of the causes of this imbalance.</p><p>But if monogamy has been so widespread, why do we see such an imbalance in male-female reproduction across the world until so recently?</p><h1>2. Patriarchy against Men</h1><p>The most common structure for clans has usually been patrilineal: All the men in a family stay together, and the daughters leave to pair up with men in other clans. This means all men in a clan are related by blood, but not all women.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a> So if a clan disappears&#8212;whether it&#8217;s wiped out, it starves, or it slowly shrinks because it doesn&#8217;t have access to resources or status&#8212;then the entire male line goes extinct. But not the female line, which is much more mixed! So, in effect, patriarchy is genetically much riskier for men than for women.</p><p>Meanwhile, this effect was compounded by the fact that successful clans would wipe out many other clans, further reducing genetic diversity.</p><p>And then, these successful clans would grow too much and would need to split. When they did, they tended to do so along lines of close relatives. So for example each successful son would move out with his male descendants. The result is that every split would <em>increase</em> male line genetic concentration.</p><p><a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-47618-5">One paper</a> tried to figure out how much the effects described in this section could explain the gap between male and female reproduction, and it found that it could theoretically explain it all. In other words, you don&#8217;t theoretically need polygyny or violence between men to explain this gap. The clan structure could be enough.</p><p>My guess is that it&#8217;s something in between:</p><ol><li><p>Polygyny meant that many men could not get wives and never reproduced.</p></li><li><p>Many men killed other men and took the women, further reducing the share of men who would ever reproduce (or killing off their offspring). This was more common in polygynous societies than in monogamous ones.</p></li><li><p>Even if some males reproduced, clan structure could eliminate their entire male line, if the entire clan was wiped out.</p></li></ol><p>What does all this tell us about today? Here are the consequences we can draw for dating apps, incels, polygamy in the West, immigrant profiles, Ukraine and Russia, and AI and robots.</p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Why Did Islam Spread So Fast in North Africa & Spain?]]></title><description><![CDATA[Opponent weakness, incentives, taxes, ecology, nomads, land]]></description><link>https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/why-did-islam-spread-so-fast-in-north</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/why-did-islam-spread-so-fast-in-north</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomas Pueyo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2026 12:51:17 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zgai!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4aeba780-b5be-4dda-a094-52a1e4e7448a_1600x898.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We talked about the spread of Islam in Arabia and Egypt <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-did-islam-spread-so-fast">in the previous article</a>, but it didn&#8217;t stop there. Less than 100 years after Muhammad&#8217;s first conquests, Islam was well-established in Spain. How come?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zgai!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4aeba780-b5be-4dda-a094-52a1e4e7448a_1600x898.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zgai!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4aeba780-b5be-4dda-a094-52a1e4e7448a_1600x898.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zgai!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4aeba780-b5be-4dda-a094-52a1e4e7448a_1600x898.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zgai!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4aeba780-b5be-4dda-a094-52a1e4e7448a_1600x898.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zgai!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4aeba780-b5be-4dda-a094-52a1e4e7448a_1600x898.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zgai!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4aeba780-b5be-4dda-a094-52a1e4e7448a_1600x898.png" width="1200" height="673.5" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4aeba780-b5be-4dda-a094-52a1e4e7448a_1600x898.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:898,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zgai!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4aeba780-b5be-4dda-a094-52a1e4e7448a_1600x898.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zgai!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4aeba780-b5be-4dda-a094-52a1e4e7448a_1600x898.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zgai!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4aeba780-b5be-4dda-a094-52a1e4e7448a_1600x898.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zgai!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4aeba780-b5be-4dda-a094-52a1e4e7448a_1600x898.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h1>Byzantine Ashes</h1><p>As a reminder from the last article, the two regional superpowers, Byzantium (Romans) and the Sassanids (Persians), were uniquely wea&#8230;</p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[How Did Islam Spread So Fast?]]></title><description><![CDATA[It took only 25 years for Islam to go from being kicked out of a village to controlling everything from Morocco to Pakistan. How?]]></description><link>https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-did-islam-spread-so-fast</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-did-islam-spread-so-fast</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomas Pueyo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2026 12:01:15 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!--Hy!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F065602f6-ed59-44be-b566-6707118a3420_1196x580.gif" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the 600s AD, Mecca was a village of a few hundred people, off the beaten path, a backwater uninteresting to distant empires. Then along comes a guy&#8212;Muhammad&#8212;and somehow within five years he and his heirs went from ruling one oasis to controlling all of Arabia, and thirty years later everything from Morocco to Pakistan. HOW?!</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!--Hy!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F065602f6-ed59-44be-b566-6707118a3420_1196x580.gif" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!--Hy!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F065602f6-ed59-44be-b566-6707118a3420_1196x580.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!--Hy!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F065602f6-ed59-44be-b566-6707118a3420_1196x580.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!--Hy!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F065602f6-ed59-44be-b566-6707118a3420_1196x580.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!--Hy!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F065602f6-ed59-44be-b566-6707118a3420_1196x580.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!--Hy!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F065602f6-ed59-44be-b566-6707118a3420_1196x580.gif" width="1196" height="580" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/065602f6-ed59-44be-b566-6707118a3420_1196x580.gif&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:580,&quot;width&quot;:1196,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!--Hy!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F065602f6-ed59-44be-b566-6707118a3420_1196x580.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!--Hy!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F065602f6-ed59-44be-b566-6707118a3420_1196x580.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!--Hy!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F065602f6-ed59-44be-b566-6707118a3420_1196x580.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!--Hy!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F065602f6-ed59-44be-b566-6707118a3420_1196x580.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>My goal is to understand the mechanisms of Islam&#8217;s lightning-fast spread. I am sure I will get some facts wrong here. I know I can count on you to correct me as you find them.</em></p><p>To start, let&#8217;s look at a satellite map of the region.</p><h1>1. The Middle East at the Eve of Islam</h1><p>For 1,000 years, the Middle East had been the battleground between two megapowers: one from the sea, the other from land.</p><h3>Sea vs Land</h3><p>Greece vs Persia<br>Rome vs Parthia<br>Byzantium vs Sassanids</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mhY4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F789bc9df-8119-46db-9b80-28bb08f33131_1068x1768.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mhY4!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F789bc9df-8119-46db-9b80-28bb08f33131_1068x1768.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mhY4!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F789bc9df-8119-46db-9b80-28bb08f33131_1068x1768.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mhY4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F789bc9df-8119-46db-9b80-28bb08f33131_1068x1768.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mhY4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F789bc9df-8119-46db-9b80-28bb08f33131_1068x1768.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mhY4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F789bc9df-8119-46db-9b80-28bb08f33131_1068x1768.png" width="532" height="880.689138576779" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/789bc9df-8119-46db-9b80-28bb08f33131_1068x1768.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1768,&quot;width&quot;:1068,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:532,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mhY4!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F789bc9df-8119-46db-9b80-28bb08f33131_1068x1768.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mhY4!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F789bc9df-8119-46db-9b80-28bb08f33131_1068x1768.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mhY4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F789bc9df-8119-46db-9b80-28bb08f33131_1068x1768.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mhY4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F789bc9df-8119-46db-9b80-28bb08f33131_1068x1768.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>You might have heard about the Battle of Thermopylae where a few Greeks were able to stop the Achaemenid (Persian) Empire in 480 BC. Then, how Alexander the Great conquered everything from Greece to India, finishing around 323 BC. After that, the Parthians took over Persia, and the Romans took over Greece, and they continued the war. They were followed respectively by the Sassanid Empire and the East Roman Empire, until their last war ended in 628 AD.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>In all three cases, we had a sea-based power built around the Mediterranean on the west.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WnHR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbfda9e1f-9859-448e-a3e2-437bf4a9556f_1600x1065.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WnHR!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbfda9e1f-9859-448e-a3e2-437bf4a9556f_1600x1065.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Rome at its peak</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>While to the east ruled a land-based power.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!W8jn!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F495b9837-10c8-4002-8fe1-fd4c112e3933_937x720.gif" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!W8jn!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F495b9837-10c8-4002-8fe1-fd4c112e3933_937x720.gif 424w, 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>In all these maps, you&#8217;ll see that the Arabian Peninsula is in the smack middle of both, yet was never a part of either empire. Why? 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Here, the only place you can live is <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/mountains">in the mountains</a>, which capture rain.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q7zs!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54ea0982-b61e-487f-98ea-2a9919df0bc3_1600x1144.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q7zs!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54ea0982-b61e-487f-98ea-2a9919df0bc3_1600x1144.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Clockwise starting with Ethiopia:</p><ul><li><p>As we explain <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/ethiopian-renaissance">here, the Ethiopian Highlands</a> catch the African monsoon rains.</p></li><li><p>They flow north through the Nile, giving birth to <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/egypt">Egypt</a>.</p></li><li><p>Water evaporated in the Red Sea rains down in the <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/saudi-arabias-ordeal">Sarawat Mountains</a>, in western Arabia, creating the historical regions of Hejaz and <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-resource-cliff">Yemen</a>.</p></li><li><p>Just north of that, the same phenomenon, but the water from the Mediterranean forms the Levant, with present-day <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/will-israel-be-at-war">Israel</a>, <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/who-can-claim-palestine">Palestine</a>, <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/why-could-lebanon-be-rich-but-is">Lebanon</a>, and <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/what-is-happening-in-syria">Syria</a>.</p></li><li><p>Rains caught in Anatolia form present-day Turkey.</p></li><li><p>Rains caught in Persia form present-day <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/iran">Iran</a>.</p></li><li><p>These rains flow down the two rivers of Tigris and Euphrates, forming the historic region of Mesopotamia (between two rivers), mostly present-day Iraq.</p></li><li><p>The mountains in eastern Arabia also catch some rain, forming what are today the eastern <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/dubai">UAE</a> / Oman</p></li></ul><p>You can see this pattern reflected <em>to this day</em> in the population density map below:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>If you notice, there are two very different types of regions here, the mountains that catch water, and the plains that emerge around their rivers. The mountains are hard to rule, but defensible. The plains are hyperfertile and easy to rule, but exposed to foreign invaders.</p><p>Early on, this was not problematic: People emerged where food was easiest to produce, on the riverbanks of the Nile and Mesopotamia, which would naturally flood the riverbanks, filling them with water and sediments. That&#8217;s why civilization emerged there. There was very little population and civilization in the mountains.</p><p>But as time passed, agricultural practices developed, were brought to more mountainous areas, and the population grew there too.</p><p>This exposed the river civilizations to the mountain people. This is why, for most of its history, Egypt, the Levant, and Mesopotamia have been under the yoke of neighboring powers:</p><ul><li><p>In the case of the Levant and Egypt, those that control the sea (the Mediterranean)</p></li><li><p>In the case of the Levant and Mesopotamia, those that control the land (Anatolia and Persia)</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UU2u!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F522dd94d-2e55-4ac3-bd35-baf2890b5df9_1600x1058.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UU2u!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F522dd94d-2e55-4ac3-bd35-baf2890b5df9_1600x1058.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>The Levant is actually mountainous, but the range is much thinner, so it&#8217;s much easier to control than Anatolia or Persia</em></figcaption></figure></div><h3>The Arabian Desert</h3><p>So what was in Arabia? As the northern empires grew for the previous 1000 years, they encroached more and more on Arabia, especially its north. But this influence was limited because of the geography. In most of Arabia, there were just secluded tribes in the mountains, and some people on some coasts, for the maritime trade with the Mediterranean.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HU2l!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e3a6758-bdb2-45b3-9720-5a1361f50164_1600x905.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HU2l!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e3a6758-bdb2-45b3-9720-5a1361f50164_1600x905.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HU2l!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e3a6758-bdb2-45b3-9720-5a1361f50164_1600x905.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HU2l!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e3a6758-bdb2-45b3-9720-5a1361f50164_1600x905.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HU2l!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e3a6758-bdb2-45b3-9720-5a1361f50164_1600x905.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HU2l!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e3a6758-bdb2-45b3-9720-5a1361f50164_1600x905.png" width="1600" height="905" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HU2l!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e3a6758-bdb2-45b3-9720-5a1361f50164_1600x905.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HU2l!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e3a6758-bdb2-45b3-9720-5a1361f50164_1600x905.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HU2l!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e3a6758-bdb2-45b3-9720-5a1361f50164_1600x905.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Trade between Rome and India during Roman times</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>So all of Arabia was mostly empty and arid, except for some northern border tribes that interacted with the empires, the western mountains, and especially their south, in Yemen, which caught some water from the Ethiopian monsoon rains and some sea trade.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fO3l!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6faf02f7-fed1-4781-977c-e22c782d0b5e_1600x1238.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fO3l!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6faf02f7-fed1-4781-977c-e22c782d0b5e_1600x1238.png" width="1600" height="1238" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6faf02f7-fed1-4781-977c-e22c782d0b5e_1600x1238.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1238,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fO3l!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6faf02f7-fed1-4781-977c-e22c782d0b5e_1600x1238.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fO3l!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6faf02f7-fed1-4781-977c-e22c782d0b5e_1600x1238.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fO3l!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6faf02f7-fed1-4781-977c-e22c782d0b5e_1600x1238.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fO3l!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6faf02f7-fed1-4781-977c-e22c782d0b5e_1600x1238.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" 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Greener = more population. The pattern is mostly unchanged from what it would have been like thousands of years ago, except the center of Saudi Arabia is much more populated than it would have been, as Saudi Arabia has invested in the infrastructure to grow the Al Saud historic capital, Riyadh. Dubai was not as populated either. But the western coast of the continent probably gives a good sense of what density distribution used to be: Lots of people in Yemen, and from there moving north some people along the mountain ridge. Then after Mecca, not much population, until you reached the oasis of Medina.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Notice on the trade map above that there were no stops between Yemen and the Mediterranean on the Arabian coast. That&#8217;s how awfully dry that region is: not even port settlements could survive.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZVep!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc73e714-5139-4630-af6c-93753ff80c42_1600x1097.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZVep!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc73e714-5139-4630-af6c-93753ff80c42_1600x1097.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZVep!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc73e714-5139-4630-af6c-93753ff80c42_1600x1097.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZVep!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc73e714-5139-4630-af6c-93753ff80c42_1600x1097.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZVep!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc73e714-5139-4630-af6c-93753ff80c42_1600x1097.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZVep!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc73e714-5139-4630-af6c-93753ff80c42_1600x1097.png" width="1200" height="822.75" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/dc73e714-5139-4630-af6c-93753ff80c42_1600x1097.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:1097,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZVep!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc73e714-5139-4630-af6c-93753ff80c42_1600x1097.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZVep!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc73e714-5139-4630-af6c-93753ff80c42_1600x1097.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZVep!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc73e714-5139-4630-af6c-93753ff80c42_1600x1097.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZVep!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc73e714-5139-4630-af6c-93753ff80c42_1600x1097.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>To this day, this coast is terribly hostile. There might have been some port villages, probably Jedda (near Mecca today), and maybe some others, but they were small.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>That&#8217;s why Mecca and Medina are inland: They&#8217;re away from the sea trade routes and isolated by mountains and desert, but they have some water caught by the mountains.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3VRq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9de834ad-46ac-43a0-b999-281743142998_1600x972.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3VRq!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9de834ad-46ac-43a0-b999-281743142998_1600x972.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3VRq!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9de834ad-46ac-43a0-b999-281743142998_1600x972.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3VRq!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9de834ad-46ac-43a0-b999-281743142998_1600x972.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3VRq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9de834ad-46ac-43a0-b999-281743142998_1600x972.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3VRq!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9de834ad-46ac-43a0-b999-281743142998_1600x972.png" width="1200" height="729" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9de834ad-46ac-43a0-b999-281743142998_1600x972.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:972,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3VRq!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9de834ad-46ac-43a0-b999-281743142998_1600x972.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3VRq!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9de834ad-46ac-43a0-b999-281743142998_1600x972.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3VRq!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9de834ad-46ac-43a0-b999-281743142998_1600x972.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3VRq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9de834ad-46ac-43a0-b999-281743142998_1600x972.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Mecca (Makkah) is in the middle. The port of Jeddah didn&#8217;t exist at the time. The city of Taif, higher up on the mountains, had more water than Mecca. This has importance later on.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Not much water, mind you; probably enough for a few hundred people in Mecca. <em>Hundreds? What about the claims that Mecca and Medina gathered thousands of soldiers?</em></p><ol><li><p>The sources of these claims had an incentive to exaggerate: the bigger the forces, the more impressive their exploits.</p></li><li><p>The soldiers could have been sourced from herders from the surrounding valleys rather than just a specific town like Mecca or Medina.</p></li><li><p>The <a href="https://qurantalkblog.com/2020/04/30/mecca-a-plantless-valley/">Quran says</a> Mecca is a plantless valley.</p></li><li><p>Due to the lack of water: There&#8217;s very little rain here. It&#8217;s so hot that most of the rain evaporates. The little that remains is not enough for permanent rivers, only seasonal wadis. This makes trees and agriculture very hard to maintain.</p></li><li><p>So the most common type of vegetation is shrub, inedible by humans so they need animals to eat it (goats, camels), and then the humans consume the milk &amp; meat of these animals, which means a loss in terms of calories from the grasses and shrubs to the animal products.</p></li><li><p>With these types of insights, you can approximate the carrying capacity of an area. In the case of Mecca, I asked ChatGPT Pro, and it estimated a few hundred.</p></li><li><p>An <a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/359781030_The_Population_Size_of_Muhammad's_Mecca_and_the_Creation_of_the_Quraysh">analysis of the genealogy</a> of Muhammad&#8217;s Mecca suggests a population of ~550 people.</p></li></ol><p>Mecca is not just distant from trade routes. It&#8217;s very desertic, which means little food produced, so the population had to be quite small. The lack of plant or animal resources also meant few goods to trade anyway. In fact, if it traded anything, it was probably to <em>get</em> food, as the region is so infertile that even a few thousand people at the time would have been hard to sustain. What did they trade in exchange for that food? Probably hides from their pastoral activities, very likely slaves.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> It had a shrine (an earlier version of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaaba">Kaaba</a>) that the local population and maybe some regional tribes came to visit. Probably not much more.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a></p><p>And yet Muhammad and his successors went from Mecca, a city of a few hundred people, to controlling Medina, to then all of Arabia in four years, from 629 to 633:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!neCh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d8882dc-60a7-4c92-ab97-95c481cd27e1_756x720.gif" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!neCh!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d8882dc-60a7-4c92-ab97-95c481cd27e1_756x720.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!neCh!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d8882dc-60a7-4c92-ab97-95c481cd27e1_756x720.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!neCh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d8882dc-60a7-4c92-ab97-95c481cd27e1_756x720.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!neCh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d8882dc-60a7-4c92-ab97-95c481cd27e1_756x720.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!neCh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d8882dc-60a7-4c92-ab97-95c481cd27e1_756x720.gif" width="756" height="720" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8d8882dc-60a7-4c92-ab97-95c481cd27e1_756x720.gif&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:720,&quot;width&quot;:756,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!neCh!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d8882dc-60a7-4c92-ab97-95c481cd27e1_756x720.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!neCh!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d8882dc-60a7-4c92-ab97-95c481cd27e1_756x720.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!neCh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d8882dc-60a7-4c92-ab97-95c481cd27e1_756x720.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!neCh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d8882dc-60a7-4c92-ab97-95c481cd27e1_756x720.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>For the life of me I couldn&#8217;t find an animated map reconstruction of the expansion of early Islam in Arabia (how crazy is that!), so I teamed up with AI to figure out every step in the unification. From a sources standpoint, it&#8217;s not too hard because the only existing source for this is the Quran itself, so I took each of the steps in the Quran according to ChatGPT Pro (after intense back-and-forth as it would tend to avoid steps I knew existed from reading parts elsewhere in my research) and this is the result.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Four successors and 30 years later, this is what the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashidun_Caliphate">Rashidun Caliphate</a> looked like in 660:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!To8V!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd08583d4-0e58-424a-b5fa-446502953643_1196x580.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!To8V!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd08583d4-0e58-424a-b5fa-446502953643_1196x580.png" width="1196" height="580" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d08583d4-0e58-424a-b5fa-446502953643_1196x580.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:580,&quot;width&quot;:1196,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!To8V!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd08583d4-0e58-424a-b5fa-446502953643_1196x580.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!To8V!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd08583d4-0e58-424a-b5fa-446502953643_1196x580.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!To8V!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd08583d4-0e58-424a-b5fa-446502953643_1196x580.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!To8V!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd08583d4-0e58-424a-b5fa-446502953643_1196x580.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This only thickens the plot. How on earth could a village off the beaten path, with a population of a few hundred people and weak trade, birth a religion shared by 25% of the world&#8217;s population today?</p><blockquote><p><em>No source prior to the Qur&#8217;an makes any mention of Mecca, and the Qur&#8217;an itself mentions it only a single time (48:24)</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a><em>. Despite the fact that we have detailed descriptions of western and southern Arabia from various Roman historians, including Procopius (ca. 500&#8211;570 CE) most notably, Mecca seems to have been completely unknown to the classical and late ancient worlds. This provides strong evidence that Mecca did not have any significant cultural, economic, or political ties to the broader world of the late ancient Mediterranean and Mesopotamia. Of course, once we recognize that Mecca was a small village with only a few hundreds or thousands of inhabitants and a subsistence economy, its omission becomes perfectly understandable.</em>&#8212;<a href="https://www.jstor.org/content/oa_chapter_monograph/j.ctv2tbwqhq.8?seq=1">The Hijaz in Late Antiquity, Social and Economic Conditions in the Cradle of the Qur&#8217;an</a>, Stephen J. Shoemaker, 2022</p></blockquote><h1>2. The Software Update of Islam</h1><p>This is the typical geography in the area of Mecca:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AAcV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F949ee480-7901-441e-bf10-c74d33e5171b_1600x1078.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AAcV!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F949ee480-7901-441e-bf10-c74d33e5171b_1600x1078.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AAcV!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F949ee480-7901-441e-bf10-c74d33e5171b_1600x1078.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AAcV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F949ee480-7901-441e-bf10-c74d33e5171b_1600x1078.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AAcV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F949ee480-7901-441e-bf10-c74d33e5171b_1600x1078.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AAcV!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F949ee480-7901-441e-bf10-c74d33e5171b_1600x1078.png" width="1200" height="808.5" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/949ee480-7901-441e-bf10-c74d33e5171b_1600x1078.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:1078,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AAcV!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F949ee480-7901-441e-bf10-c74d33e5171b_1600x1078.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AAcV!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F949ee480-7901-441e-bf10-c74d33e5171b_1600x1078.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AAcV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F949ee480-7901-441e-bf10-c74d33e5171b_1600x1078.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AAcV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F949ee480-7901-441e-bf10-c74d33e5171b_1600x1078.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Lots of mountains, some valleys or oases that allow for a little bit of agriculture, mostly shrubs here and there that allow for camels and goats to browse. This is conducive to pastoral clans, who tend to use bloodlines as the unit of community to protect themselves, and tend to attack neighboring clans because it&#8217;s easy to steal livestock. So the clan structure looks like this:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nA0z!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c144a6c-3777-462d-9f75-de0e57737697_1600x1255.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nA0z!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c144a6c-3777-462d-9f75-de0e57737697_1600x1255.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nA0z!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c144a6c-3777-462d-9f75-de0e57737697_1600x1255.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nA0z!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c144a6c-3777-462d-9f75-de0e57737697_1600x1255.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nA0z!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c144a6c-3777-462d-9f75-de0e57737697_1600x1255.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nA0z!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c144a6c-3777-462d-9f75-de0e57737697_1600x1255.png" width="587" height="460.428125" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8c144a6c-3777-462d-9f75-de0e57737697_1600x1255.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1255,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:587,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nA0z!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c144a6c-3777-462d-9f75-de0e57737697_1600x1255.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nA0z!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c144a6c-3777-462d-9f75-de0e57737697_1600x1255.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nA0z!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c144a6c-3777-462d-9f75-de0e57737697_1600x1255.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nA0z!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c144a6c-3777-462d-9f75-de0e57737697_1600x1255.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Clans in brown. In red, the investment in policing borders and managing relationships with neighboring clans.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>But although this is a stable situation (a &#8220;local optimum&#8221;), it&#8217;s bad: It&#8217;s expensive, and will sometimes result in tribal wars that deplete everybody.</p><p>A much better and stabler situation (&#8220;global optimum&#8221;) is this:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xX2r!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9bcf79fc-1a5d-4d20-bc4c-0ebda3d8b745_1600x1232.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>By eliminating the internal borders, internal trade becomes much easier, and a region becomes richer. By redeploying the internal forces to the external border, the amount of force available for external aggression is much higher.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>So how do you vanquish the inertia to establish a more optimal situation?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z9uV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef84ad5c-7bfc-476d-9b63-fe45d37a661b_1600x1213.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z9uV!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef84ad5c-7bfc-476d-9b63-fe45d37a661b_1600x1213.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z9uV!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef84ad5c-7bfc-476d-9b63-fe45d37a661b_1600x1213.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z9uV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef84ad5c-7bfc-476d-9b63-fe45d37a661b_1600x1213.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z9uV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef84ad5c-7bfc-476d-9b63-fe45d37a661b_1600x1213.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z9uV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef84ad5c-7bfc-476d-9b63-fe45d37a661b_1600x1213.png" width="547" height="414.694375" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ef84ad5c-7bfc-476d-9b63-fe45d37a661b_1600x1213.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1213,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:547,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z9uV!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef84ad5c-7bfc-476d-9b63-fe45d37a661b_1600x1213.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z9uV!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef84ad5c-7bfc-476d-9b63-fe45d37a661b_1600x1213.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z9uV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef84ad5c-7bfc-476d-9b63-fe45d37a661b_1600x1213.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z9uV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef84ad5c-7bfc-476d-9b63-fe45d37a661b_1600x1213.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>In math, it would be visualized like this. The situation is the ball, and today it&#8217;s in a locally stable environment. Move it a bit left and right, and it will go back to its existing position. In our metaphor here, if three tribes decide to make a truce and start allowing each other to move freely in the other clan&#8217;s area, and they decide to adjudicate together when there&#8217;s a conflict between the clans, that is a flimsy change, just one problem away from falling apart. The clannishness is a local optimum. So you need to make a huge change to overcome the forces that get the system back to its original position. But once you do, you might discover a much more stable situation.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>A series of serendipitous situations meant Muhammad was the right person at the right place and the right time to do this across this whole region, and where once there were constant inter-clan wars, there was suddenly a formidable force.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R0dw!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab4a61d3-ce0f-4446-b86b-3e87851c26d8_1600x1494.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R0dw!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab4a61d3-ce0f-4446-b86b-3e87851c26d8_1600x1494.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R0dw!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab4a61d3-ce0f-4446-b86b-3e87851c26d8_1600x1494.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R0dw!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab4a61d3-ce0f-4446-b86b-3e87851c26d8_1600x1494.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R0dw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab4a61d3-ce0f-4446-b86b-3e87851c26d8_1600x1494.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R0dw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab4a61d3-ce0f-4446-b86b-3e87851c26d8_1600x1494.png" width="1600" height="1494" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ab4a61d3-ce0f-4446-b86b-3e87851c26d8_1600x1494.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1494,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R0dw!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab4a61d3-ce0f-4446-b86b-3e87851c26d8_1600x1494.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R0dw!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab4a61d3-ce0f-4446-b86b-3e87851c26d8_1600x1494.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R0dw!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab4a61d3-ce0f-4446-b86b-3e87851c26d8_1600x1494.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R0dw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab4a61d3-ce0f-4446-b86b-3e87851c26d8_1600x1494.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Muhammad was able to take control of Medina from inside. From there, he was able to expand first to the north, then to Mecca <strong>militarily</strong>, then south of it militarily too. Here, the order of the first expansions on the west coast, from earlier (darker) to later (lighter).</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Muhammad, born in 570 AD, was a member of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quraysh">Quraysh</a>, the predominant<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> clan of the village of Mecca. He was part of a smaller branch of the clan, his father died before he was born, and his mother when he was 6. He was raised by his grandfather and later uncle, and was a trader. In 610 AD, he starts seeing visions of the Angel Gabriel. How did this have such a big impact?</p><h3>Trade</h3><p>One of the keys to unite people is trade. Unlike goat herding or local agriculture, which don&#8217;t need cooperation with foreigners and lead to storing wealth that can be stolen, trade needs cooperation. It&#8217;s win-win. So traders have a strong incentive to pacify regions, make clans respect each other and stop war. In exchange, the trade is taxed and clans receive some of the taxes. This is what we saw in <em><a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/pax-mercatus">Pax Mercatus</a></em>: Whether it was the Roman Empire, China, rivers in Europe, the Atlantic Ocean in the Age of Discovery, the Pax Mongolica, the Pax Americana&#8230; In all cases, trade begets military expansion to bring peace.</p><p>So it&#8217;s not a coincidence that Muhammad was a trader: He had an incentive to pacify all the clans in the region to allow for camel caravans to trade freely.</p><p>It&#8217;s not a coincidence either that he really started Islam not in Mecca, but in Medina.</p><p>Medina was a bigger town because there was an oasis there.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!IHB5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Febb67778-79d4-4a85-9bd2-2c878dd50b38_1600x1077.png" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!IHB5!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Febb67778-79d4-4a85-9bd2-2c878dd50b38_1600x1077.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!IHB5!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Febb67778-79d4-4a85-9bd2-2c878dd50b38_1600x1077.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!IHB5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Febb67778-79d4-4a85-9bd2-2c878dd50b38_1600x1077.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>This is AlUla, in the Medina Province. Not quite where the town of Medina was, but this gives you an idea of what it could have looked like (just fewer buildings and people).</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>We can understand why when we look at the local topography:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K1a1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff99bb47b-c317-48aa-ba3f-27e30919e65d_1600x1685.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K1a1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff99bb47b-c317-48aa-ba3f-27e30919e65d_1600x1685.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K1a1!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff99bb47b-c317-48aa-ba3f-27e30919e65d_1600x1685.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K1a1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff99bb47b-c317-48aa-ba3f-27e30919e65d_1600x1685.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K1a1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff99bb47b-c317-48aa-ba3f-27e30919e65d_1600x1685.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K1a1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff99bb47b-c317-48aa-ba3f-27e30919e65d_1600x1685.png" width="1600" height="1685" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f99bb47b-c317-48aa-ba3f-27e30919e65d_1600x1685.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1685,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K1a1!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff99bb47b-c317-48aa-ba3f-27e30919e65d_1600x1685.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K1a1!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff99bb47b-c317-48aa-ba3f-27e30919e65d_1600x1685.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K1a1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff99bb47b-c317-48aa-ba3f-27e30919e65d_1600x1685.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K1a1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff99bb47b-c317-48aa-ba3f-27e30919e65d_1600x1685.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Medina is in a depression surrounded by mountains from the Sarawat range. Mecca is on the foothills of these Mountains, and the water that doesn&#8217;t evaporate can more easily filter into the ground and go to the sea.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Muhammad started preaching in Mecca and that got him into problems. At some point, other clan members wanted to kill him so he escaped to Medina.</p><p>But luckily for him, Medina was just emerging from a tribal war, and was thus especially open to <a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/Constitution-of-Medina">a solution to their clan problem</a>, especially from a trader who promoted trade, peace, mutual respect, and taxation, instead of inter-clan war.</p><p>Muhammad created the concept of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ummah">Umma</a>, or Muslim identity: <em>We&#8217;re all the same, we&#8217;re all together, we should like each other and not fight each other.</em> He created a meta-identity above that of clans, promoting their union.</p><p>By making apostasy strongly punishable, Islam increased the barriers to exit the community: <em>You&#8217;re in, and you can&#8217;t get out</em>.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a></p><p>The exhaustion from internecine conflict in Medina made the townspeople open to these changes, and Muhammad became a local mediator, eventually reaching a position of power.</p><p>But there were lots of other social engineering innovations that allowed this to happen.</p><h3>Monotheism</h3><p>The date of all this is relevant too. We&#8217;re now in the 620s, and this is happening:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!enVo!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb5928f9c-8583-4e82-994d-799b11da14ce_1600x1184.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!enVo!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb5928f9c-8583-4e82-994d-799b11da14ce_1600x1184.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!enVo!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb5928f9c-8583-4e82-994d-799b11da14ce_1600x1184.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!enVo!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb5928f9c-8583-4e82-994d-799b11da14ce_1600x1184.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!enVo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb5928f9c-8583-4e82-994d-799b11da14ce_1600x1184.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!enVo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb5928f9c-8583-4e82-994d-799b11da14ce_1600x1184.png" width="1600" height="1184" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/b5928f9c-8583-4e82-994d-799b11da14ce_1600x1184.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1184,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!enVo!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb5928f9c-8583-4e82-994d-799b11da14ce_1600x1184.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!enVo!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb5928f9c-8583-4e82-994d-799b11da14ce_1600x1184.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!enVo!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb5928f9c-8583-4e82-994d-799b11da14ce_1600x1184.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!enVo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb5928f9c-8583-4e82-994d-799b11da14ce_1600x1184.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Spread of Christianism. Dark blue: 325 AD. Light blue: 600 AD</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>The region was on the border of Christian spread. Although Muhammad was illiterate, he knew about the Bible, Jesus, and the Angel Gabriel. But this belief was not predominant in the region at that time. The main reason why he was kicked out of Mecca was because he adopted the Judeo-Christian idea of monotheism, and that meant he was against the polytheism reigning in Mecca.</p><p>The bright side, though, is that once he convinced a group to become monotheistic, he took away one more reason to fight each other.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!klG7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3ed90138-70db-4701-9e48-7d6229a89a84_1600x1157.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!klG7!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3ed90138-70db-4701-9e48-7d6229a89a84_1600x1157.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This also meant that an attack on one of the clans was an attack on all the clans, reducing inter-clan hostility.</p><p>Adopting the Judeo-Christian concept of omnipotency (which was not common of deities before monotheism) made the enforcement of rules much easier: Now you couldn&#8217;t hide in order to violate the norms, Allah would always see you.</p><h3>Taxation</h3><p>When Muhammad escaped from Mecca to Medina, he was starved for income. That&#8217;s the context in which we should interpret the importance of alms in Islam. He needed money!</p><blockquote><p><em>By no means shall you attain righteousness unless you give freely of that which you love, and whatever you give, Allah knows it well.</em>&#8212;<a href="https://sadaqah.io/blog/five-verses-of-the-quran-on-sadaqah/">Qur&#8217;an 3:92</a></p></blockquote><p>Alms became taxation, and Muhammad even sold its ROI:</p><blockquote><p><em>The example of those who spend their wealth in the way of Allah is like a seed [of grain] which grows seven spikes; in each spike is a hundred grains. And Allah multiplies [His reward] for whom He wills.&#8212;</em><a href="https://sadaqah.io/blog/five-verses-of-the-quran-on-sadaqah/">Qur&#8217;an 2:261</a></p></blockquote><p>The most important tax is the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zakat">zak&#257;t</a>, 2.5% of disposable income per year from wealthy-enough people. To me, this is a way for clan leaders to control more funds, as they could tax other wealthy clan members and control how that money would be used. A bit like a subscription: <em>If you pay into this community, we&#8217;ll be able to afford more good things for you and your clan.</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a></p><p>A core aspect of this is that the more powerful individuals get more benefits from this tax (clan leaders), while their juniors in power are just compelled to pay up.</p><p>This is why, when Muhammad died, there was <a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/riddah">a war</a>: The bedouins didn&#8217;t want to pay up<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a> so they left the agreement they had with Muhammad, but they were defeated and forced by the richer, more powerful clans to keep paying.</p><p>Another way to see the zak&#257;t is pooling money for an investment: With more money, you can afford more warriors fighting for longer, which will then give you more booty to share with them and amongst yourselves.</p><h3>Violence</h3><p>As we said, when you eliminate so many internal boundaries, you can redeploy your forces to the external boundaries, so you end up with a much higher concentration of forces to attack neighbors.</p><p>The taxation enables funding for these attacks. The Quran is explicit about the mechanism here:</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://legacy.quran.com/8/1">8:1</a> says the booty belongs to Allah, so no stealing</p></li><li><p><a href="https://quran.com/al-anfal/41">8:41</a> says 20% goes to the community (God, the Messenger, kin, orphans, the needy, and travelers. In practice, mostly leadership, dependents, political grants, and the emerging state), and 80% to the fighters.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://quran.com/al-hashr/6-7">59:6&#8211;7</a> says spoils without fighting go to the community.</p></li></ul><p>This gives an institutionalized method for everybody to be happy: The fighters pool their strength, they invade, sack, get a bounty, and share some with the organizers, who can keep expanding.</p><p>The problem with this is that it can quickly become a scorched-earth strategy, where if you don&#8217;t conquer more, you don&#8217;t have income to finance your armies, which then turn against you, or can&#8217;t maintain peace. So early Islam made sure to keep the local population intact instead of trying to replace it, kept freedom of religion, eliminated and replaced the elites, and charged them the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizya">jizya</a>, another tax dedicated to non-Muslims, to fund the entire operation.</p><p>These taxes could be hefty. When Muhammad conquered the Jewish settlement of Khaybar, north of Medina, the annual tax was 50% of what was produced.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_Qhl!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F650debe4-1ad7-49c2-be77-9fc25b7e9bcd_1600x1069.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_Qhl!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F650debe4-1ad7-49c2-be77-9fc25b7e9bcd_1600x1069.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_Qhl!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F650debe4-1ad7-49c2-be77-9fc25b7e9bcd_1600x1069.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_Qhl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F650debe4-1ad7-49c2-be77-9fc25b7e9bcd_1600x1069.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_Qhl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F650debe4-1ad7-49c2-be77-9fc25b7e9bcd_1600x1069.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_Qhl!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F650debe4-1ad7-49c2-be77-9fc25b7e9bcd_1600x1069.png" width="1200" height="801.75" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/650debe4-1ad7-49c2-be77-9fc25b7e9bcd_1600x1069.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:1069,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_Qhl!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F650debe4-1ad7-49c2-be77-9fc25b7e9bcd_1600x1069.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_Qhl!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F650debe4-1ad7-49c2-be77-9fc25b7e9bcd_1600x1069.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_Qhl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F650debe4-1ad7-49c2-be77-9fc25b7e9bcd_1600x1069.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_Qhl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F650debe4-1ad7-49c2-be77-9fc25b7e9bcd_1600x1069.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>The historic village of Khaybar, which I understand was majority Arab Jewish. I gather the houses used to be on hills to prepare for such visits as Muhammad&#8217;s.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Notice the pattern here: early on, Muhammad didn&#8217;t have power or money. He used his position as a respected external trader to broker peace in Medina, which gave him enough power to <em>raid</em> caravans, eventually taking Khaybar and its date production. He was converting military power into economic power, and every time he did, he could reuse the local resources to tax them, recruit new soldiers, or both.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVsM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3a3e4bf4-cb54-4d22-87b5-a1cd50b5c53b_1600x1248.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVsM!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3a3e4bf4-cb54-4d22-87b5-a1cd50b5c53b_1600x1248.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVsM!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3a3e4bf4-cb54-4d22-87b5-a1cd50b5c53b_1600x1248.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVsM!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3a3e4bf4-cb54-4d22-87b5-a1cd50b5c53b_1600x1248.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVsM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3a3e4bf4-cb54-4d22-87b5-a1cd50b5c53b_1600x1248.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVsM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3a3e4bf4-cb54-4d22-87b5-a1cd50b5c53b_1600x1248.png" width="1600" height="1248" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3a3e4bf4-cb54-4d22-87b5-a1cd50b5c53b_1600x1248.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1248,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVsM!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3a3e4bf4-cb54-4d22-87b5-a1cd50b5c53b_1600x1248.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVsM!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3a3e4bf4-cb54-4d22-87b5-a1cd50b5c53b_1600x1248.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVsM!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3a3e4bf4-cb54-4d22-87b5-a1cd50b5c53b_1600x1248.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVsM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3a3e4bf4-cb54-4d22-87b5-a1cd50b5c53b_1600x1248.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>In effect, this meant warriors went from potential raiding threats to subjects of a standing army, with a stipend they could lose if they left. This became obvious in the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridda_Wars">Ridda Wars</a>: When Muhammad died, many tribes seceded from Islam, but his successor Abu Bakr was able to harness the existing ones to subdue the secessionists and reunite Arabia.</p><h3>Desert Nomad Logistics</h3><p>Arabia naturally breeds the type of warrior that thrives in all the regions from Morocco to Iraq. The cornerstone is the camel, which can eat the type of vegetation in this area and store water to sustain long trips in the desert. They are quick and don&#8217;t need roads.</p><p>On top of that, Arabs had become careful water and grazing managers. They knew where to go to refuel, how much to take, and when to move on. They could move quickly from oasis to wadi, to fertile valley, not depleting their resources in the process. Compare that with European and Persian armies, which had to bring some of their food with them, had to feed the horses fodder besides the grass they ate on the way, and had an entire logistics train to manage to make all this happen.</p><h3>Garrison Towns</h3><p>Another innovation in violence that came a few years after Muhammad&#8217;s death was the garrison towns, such as Basra and Kufa in Iraq, and Fustat in Egypt.</p><p>Most armies were raised specifically for a conquest and then returned. This made the control of occupied lands difficult.</p><p>So other empires had garrisons too, but they tended to be either in existing cities or become cities themselves, and soldiers and locals commingled, which could dilute the force of the conqueror. Indeed, all the invasions that took place in Europe at that time from eastern hordes ended up with these hordes adopting the mores of the locals (Latin language, Christianism&#8230;) rather than the other way around. Not for the Muslims.</p><p>Early on, the Muslims made sure to keep the conquerors and conquered separate. This allowed for less corruption, more control over the local population, and keeping the soldiers more in line and easier to redeploy. And since they stayed put in these garrisons rather than coming back, they could maintain control of the lands taken over.</p><h3>Polygamy</h3><p>Whereas in Byzantium marriages were monogamous (because of Christianity), this had not percolated into the region. Muhammad didn&#8217;t adopt it in Islam, which might have been quite clever for the religion&#8217;s spread. Instead, he regulated polygamy, which had been too extreme before (too many wives per man). It limited men to four wives at any given time (so more wives could be taken sequentially).</p><p>Keeping polygamy had a couple of advantages. First, a conqueror could marry the daughters of several conquered elites to pacify them. The more wives they could have, the better. Muhammad had 11-13 wives. This was crucial to unite Arabia, as many of these wives were taken to cement the adhere of new clans to Islam.</p><p>Second, polygamy created a surplus of single men with no access to sex. If, say, <a href="https://x.com/i/grok/share/88d41dd4319848a98f594de9b3217740">~25%</a> of men were polygamous and they married on average three women, and 25% had one wife, then 50% of men would not have access to a woman.</p><p>Banning access to sex to lots of young males is a recipe for raids&#8212;they&#8217;re hunting for wives&#8212;so it made much more sense to repurpose their desires to attack foreigners. So Muhammad continued the practice that part of a soldiers&#8217; loot would include slaves, wives, and concubines.</p><p>The problem is if your soldiers fear dying in battle, they might not want to engage at all. So a great innovation of the Quran was <a href="https://x.com/i/grok/share/6645ada99b6c4fb488d9852fb37e32c4">to conceive</a> beautiful, pure, virgin companions in heaven for true believers. A couple of centuries later, that would become the story of 72 virgins for religious martyrs.</p><h3>Succession</h3><p>By making allegiance to Allah and not just a person (himself), he made the new community outlast his own life.</p><p>But crucially, it wasn&#8217;t settled how the leadership of Islam would work, as Muhammad died suddenly.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a> This led to internecine wars for power, which sometimes are bad because they lead to civil wars (plenty of these in Islam), but on another side, they allow competitive forces to play within Islam: The religion can&#8217;t settle and rot from inside from a series of bad leaders, because there&#8217;s always some competing reading of Islam to challenge the current one.</p><h3>From Software to Hardware</h3><p>So these are some of the mechanisms that let Islam grow from a tiny settlement to taking over Arabia.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KSpP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F20bb4885-416d-4da2-aabf-ba02972d1c76_1600x1233.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KSpP!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F20bb4885-416d-4da2-aabf-ba02972d1c76_1600x1233.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KSpP!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F20bb4885-416d-4da2-aabf-ba02972d1c76_1600x1233.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KSpP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F20bb4885-416d-4da2-aabf-ba02972d1c76_1600x1233.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KSpP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F20bb4885-416d-4da2-aabf-ba02972d1c76_1600x1233.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KSpP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F20bb4885-416d-4da2-aabf-ba02972d1c76_1600x1233.png" width="1600" height="1233" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/20bb4885-416d-4da2-aabf-ba02972d1c76_1600x1233.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1233,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KSpP!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F20bb4885-416d-4da2-aabf-ba02972d1c76_1600x1233.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KSpP!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F20bb4885-416d-4da2-aabf-ba02972d1c76_1600x1233.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KSpP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F20bb4885-416d-4da2-aabf-ba02972d1c76_1600x1233.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KSpP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F20bb4885-416d-4da2-aabf-ba02972d1c76_1600x1233.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>I&#8217;m not saying these mechanisms were purposefully designed. Whether they came from Allah via the Angel Gabriel, or Muhammad and his successors chose them (consciously or unconsciously), the fact is they were software ideal for fast spread.</p><p>I&#8217;m sure I got some of these mechanisms wrong, and that I&#8217;m missing a few more. If you have more, please share them! But these look like the most important parts of the software update that unleashed the potential of the Arab tribes.</p><p>At the right time.</p><h1>3. The Fall of Empires</h1><p>This was the region when Muhammad arrived.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RIpJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d7d0a51-7d04-43b7-b961-e0436a13c211_1368x674.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RIpJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d7d0a51-7d04-43b7-b961-e0436a13c211_1368x674.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RIpJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d7d0a51-7d04-43b7-b961-e0436a13c211_1368x674.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RIpJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d7d0a51-7d04-43b7-b961-e0436a13c211_1368x674.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RIpJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d7d0a51-7d04-43b7-b961-e0436a13c211_1368x674.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RIpJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d7d0a51-7d04-43b7-b961-e0436a13c211_1368x674.png" width="1368" height="674" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8d7d0a51-7d04-43b7-b961-e0436a13c211_1368x674.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:674,&quot;width&quot;:1368,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RIpJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d7d0a51-7d04-43b7-b961-e0436a13c211_1368x674.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RIpJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d7d0a51-7d04-43b7-b961-e0436a13c211_1368x674.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RIpJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d7d0a51-7d04-43b7-b961-e0436a13c211_1368x674.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RIpJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d7d0a51-7d04-43b7-b961-e0436a13c211_1368x674.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The Byzantines were weak: Half of their empire had disappeared under the arrival of the hordes from the north and east: Ostrogoths, Visigoths, Vandals, Franks, Goths, Huns... It spent its time warring with them, and with the Sassanids to the east.</p><p>It had remained mainly a maritime power, as you can guess from the map above. This exposed it dearly to land-based threats.</p><p>The Sassanids were also threatened to the east by similar nomadic tribes.</p><p>Crucially, the Byzantines and the Sassanids fought a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine%E2%80%93Sasanian_War_of_602%E2%80%93628">terrible war</a> between 602 and 628, just as Muhammad was uniting Arabia. By the time Arabia it was completed in 633, the situation was:</p><ul><li><p>Two exhausted rivals</p></li><li><p>The plains of Egypt, the Levant, and Mesopotamia fully exposed to a neighboring power</p></li><li><p>Egypt and the Levant were especially exposed because their patron (Byzantium) was a naval power</p></li><li><p>Mesopotamia was very exposed because it was directly connected to Arabia, and the Sassanid Empire, aside from its exhaustion from the war with Byzantium, was fighting on its eastern side</p></li></ul><p>And this happened:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AaFf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F471d686b-cc56-4210-adf5-82806c942d64_1196x580.gif" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AaFf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F471d686b-cc56-4210-adf5-82806c942d64_1196x580.gif" width="1196" height="580" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/471d686b-cc56-4210-adf5-82806c942d64_1196x580.gif&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:580,&quot;width&quot;:1196,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The Rashidun Caliphate (the first four descendants of Muhammad) reached:</p><ul><li><p>In the north, the Levant and then Anatolia</p></li><li><p>In the east, Mesopotamia and then the Sassanid Empire</p></li><li><p>In the west, to Egypt, and then northern Africa</p></li></ul><p>As they grew, they could simply take over existing elites and keep the economic production and tax it.</p><p>The expansion across all of north Africa looks especially incredible, until you realize a couple of things:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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It&#8217;s focused in the three areas of Egypt, Cyrene, and Coastal Maghreb. All three were colonies of Byzantium (so not self-ruling), and all three were focused on sea threats rather than land threats.</p><p>Second, the Arabs were specialized in long treks across the desert. This didn&#8217;t fundamentally change their logistics.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-did-islam-spread-so-fast?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-did-islam-spread-so-fast?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p>So this is how I understand that the Arabs went from a few clans in the mountains of a peripheral region to conquering one of the biggest empires of the time in a mere 30 years:</p><ul><li><p>Beyond Egypt, most of North Africa is a repeat of Arabia, so easy for Arabs to conquer, ad they&#8217;re naturally adapted to the terrain</p></li><li><p>Muhammad added new software to unite the clans and harness taxes, so that Islam had soldiers and money to fund wars</p></li><li><p>Three bordering lands (Egypt, Levant, Mesopotamia) were easy to conquer as they have few mountains to protect them and are close to Arabia: Egypt, the Levant, and Mesopotamia</p></li><li><p>There was a moment of unique weakness of the two regional powers, so Muslims could take parts of the otherwise hard-to-conquer Anatolia and Persia</p></li><li><p>There are large swaths with no water and settlements. North Africa is just Egypt, Cyrene, and northern Maghreb.</p></li></ul><p>How did Islam keep expanding? How did it invade Spain? Anatolia? Europe? How did it spread across east Africa? Southeast Asia? What&#8217;s the relation between Arab, Arabic, and Islam? How did they each spread in somewhat different places? That&#8217;s what we&#8217;re going to see next.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p><em>This is a highly scrutinized part of history, I welcome your feedback on what I got right or wrong!</em></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>Slaves were probably from Abyssinia, present-day Ethiopia, as it&#8217;s mentioned in the text of the period, and the successor to Muhammad freed slaves. There was frankincense and myrrh trade in the region, but it probably bypassed Mecca and Medina and was traded via sea routes. There were not metals (gold, silver, copper), despite their presence in the region, because all evidence points to them being mined after the time of Muhammad, not before.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>There was a local oral tradition that claims regional trade pacts. Some have interpreted them as treaties between Mecca and kingdoms or empires like Byzantium, Persia, Yemen, or Ethiopia. But these are unlikely. First, there&#8217;s no document supporting this. Second, most trade in the region was by sea. Third, the overland trade was mostly by caravan, which meant that local protection and no taxes were much more important than treaties with distant powers.This doesn&#8217;t mean Mecca was a secondary hamlet in Arabia, because the rest of the region was equally unpopulated. Mecca had some regional connection through trade and pilgrimage, even if it was quite small compared to the standards of other regions at the time.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>There&#8217;s also a Bakkah named, which could be Mecca. Medina is mentioned once in the Quran. To be fair though, the Quran doesn&#8217;t mention cities much at all. Medina appears in more places in sources from antiquity, although usually in lists of places, not as a place of special importance. </em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>By predominant, here it means most people in the village were part of the clan one way or another.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>The Quran says apostates should be seriously punished, especially in the afterlife, but it does not say the punishment for apostasy is death. This came later.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>Whereas a tax nowadays is money that disappears from your pocket and you don&#8217;t have much of a say on how it&#8217;s spent aside from a vote every four years or so.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>Whether the zakat or the &#8220;less obligatory&#8221; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadaqah">sadaqah</a>, which could be paid in livestock.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>Some say due to poison from a Jewish lady from Khaybar.</em></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[20 Ideas to Grow New Communities]]></title><description><![CDATA[Urbanism, art, sex, dating, religion, incentives, monuments, influencers, and more]]></description><link>https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/20-ideas-to-grow-new-communities</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/20-ideas-to-grow-new-communities</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomas Pueyo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:03:37 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!neAS!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fae6b2874-268f-4699-ae9f-a1ed25651ee8_1600x1134.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>This article is a follow-up to <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-cold-start-problem-of-new-cities">The Cold Start Problem of New Cities &amp; States</a>. Today, I&#8217;m going to focus on specific initiatives that new communities, cities, states, and Special Economic Zones (SEZs) can undertake to grow faster. I&#8217;m going to use Pr&#243;spera and the Network School as examples, as they&#8217;re the leading communities in this space, and I know them best.</em></p><p></p><h1>1. Don&#8217;t Split the Space into Different Enclaves</h1><p>Most of the value of a community comes from the serendipitous meeting of people. This is why Steve Jobs designed Apple&#8217;s HQ like he did:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!neAS!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fae6b2874-268f-4699-ae9f-a1ed25651ee8_1600x1134.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!neAS!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fae6b2874-268f-4699-ae9f-a1ed25651ee8_1600x1134.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!neAS!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fae6b2874-268f-4699-ae9f-a1ed25651ee8_1600x1134.png 848w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Apple Park, Cupertino, California</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>A single space, completely connected, where you&#8217;d naturally meet people from other parts of the organization en route to the carpark, the restroom, the kitchen, the coffee shop&#8230;</p><p>For that reason, if you&#8217;re building a new community, it&#8217;s very important to keep everybody together. 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>It has five enclaves: <a href="https://www.prosperaglobal.com/news/honduras-gets-nearshoring-boost-with-satuye-port">One in the continental port of Satuy&#233;</a> near La Ceiba, and four in Roat&#225;n (Beta District, Pristine Bay, areas in Port Royal, and a building in the main city).</p><p>The continental port makes sense, as it has a specific function connected to its geography.</p><p>But splitting the other ones is problematic, because each community ends up independent from the others and none benefit from network effects.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!IJOG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe74f4db2-5940-4164-a9cc-f7cbf216362f_1600x1081.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!IJOG!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe74f4db2-5940-4164-a9cc-f7cbf216362f_1600x1081.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!IJOG!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe74f4db2-5940-4164-a9cc-f7cbf216362f_1600x1081.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!IJOG!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe74f4db2-5940-4164-a9cc-f7cbf216362f_1600x1081.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!IJOG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe74f4db2-5940-4164-a9cc-f7cbf216362f_1600x1081.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!IJOG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe74f4db2-5940-4164-a9cc-f7cbf216362f_1600x1081.png" width="1600" height="1081" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e74f4db2-5940-4164-a9cc-f7cbf216362f_1600x1081.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1081,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>You feel it every time you have to take a car to go from Pristine Bay to the Beta District.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9q1c!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1ac3c0a6-403b-48aa-9b09-15b0b7780d99_1600x723.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9q1c!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1ac3c0a6-403b-48aa-9b09-15b0b7780d99_1600x723.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9q1c!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1ac3c0a6-403b-48aa-9b09-15b0b7780d99_1600x723.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9q1c!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1ac3c0a6-403b-48aa-9b09-15b0b7780d99_1600x723.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9q1c!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1ac3c0a6-403b-48aa-9b09-15b0b7780d99_1600x723.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9q1c!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1ac3c0a6-403b-48aa-9b09-15b0b7780d99_1600x723.png" width="1200" height="542.25" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/1ac3c0a6-403b-48aa-9b09-15b0b7780d99_1600x723.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:723,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>If you stay in Pristine Bay, you&#8217;ll stumble upon plenty of other residents of Pristine Bay, but few of the Beta District ones. You need events that are interesting enough to pull you from one to the other, so serendipity is limited.</p><p>The Network School in Malaysia has the same issue, but milder.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UKyI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe859e1e7-6347-4ff8-9fb5-bc9b58a1607c_1600x1185.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UKyI!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe859e1e7-6347-4ff8-9fb5-bc9b58a1607c_1600x1185.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UKyI!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe859e1e7-6347-4ff8-9fb5-bc9b58a1607c_1600x1185.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UKyI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe859e1e7-6347-4ff8-9fb5-bc9b58a1607c_1600x1185.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UKyI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe859e1e7-6347-4ff8-9fb5-bc9b58a1607c_1600x1185.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UKyI!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe859e1e7-6347-4ff8-9fb5-bc9b58a1607c_1600x1185.png" width="1200" height="888.75" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e859e1e7-6347-4ff8-9fb5-bc9b58a1607c_1600x1185.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:1185,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UKyI!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe859e1e7-6347-4ff8-9fb5-bc9b58a1607c_1600x1185.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UKyI!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe859e1e7-6347-4ff8-9fb5-bc9b58a1607c_1600x1185.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UKyI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe859e1e7-6347-4ff8-9fb5-bc9b58a1607c_1600x1185.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UKyI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe859e1e7-6347-4ff8-9fb5-bc9b58a1607c_1600x1185.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Most people stay in a hotel or in apartment buildings nearby, in the southeast. The coworking space is 20m away walking. One place would be better than two, but at least the walking is healthy, you can meet people on the way from one to the other, and everyone lives and works in the same areas. I&#8217;m sure the founders tried, and this is what they could get, so good for them for making it happen, even if it&#8217;s not ideal.</p><h1>2. Don&#8217;t Build for Cars</h1><p>This is adjacent to what I just mentioned.</p><p>If you have a community that&#8217;s small enough to walk everywhere, people will see each other all the time and will all end up meeting each other. In a car, every time you encounter someone else, what you see is another car, not another person. The distance makes it hard to recognize each other, and impossible to talk.</p><p>It&#8217;s also much easier to go downstairs and walk five minutes than to use your car for every errand, so people with cars will go out less&#8212;and meet fewer people.</p><p>This is relevant for Pr&#243;spera, because although its two main enclaves are near each other, the road is basically the only viable path between them today. I walked along the beach from one to the other, which had some nice spots:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kpT2!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cb8ecd6-415f-4bf5-821a-d6c0b6cedb46_1124x2000.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kpT2!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cb8ecd6-415f-4bf5-821a-d6c0b6cedb46_1124x2000.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kpT2!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cb8ecd6-415f-4bf5-821a-d6c0b6cedb46_1124x2000.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kpT2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cb8ecd6-415f-4bf5-821a-d6c0b6cedb46_1124x2000.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kpT2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cb8ecd6-415f-4bf5-821a-d6c0b6cedb46_1124x2000.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kpT2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cb8ecd6-415f-4bf5-821a-d6c0b6cedb46_1124x2000.png" width="492" height="875.4448398576512" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7cb8ecd6-415f-4bf5-821a-d6c0b6cedb46_1124x2000.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:2000,&quot;width&quot;:1124,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:492,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kpT2!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cb8ecd6-415f-4bf5-821a-d6c0b6cedb46_1124x2000.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kpT2!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cb8ecd6-415f-4bf5-821a-d6c0b6cedb46_1124x2000.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kpT2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cb8ecd6-415f-4bf5-821a-d6c0b6cedb46_1124x2000.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kpT2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cb8ecd6-415f-4bf5-821a-d6c0b6cedb46_1124x2000.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>But also some less nice ones. And at night&#8230; Well, I&#8217;m not used to walking in pitch dark jungle, with its weird noises and the mud and the insects&#8230;</p><p>A better walking path between the two enclaves would be extremely beneficial to Pr&#243;spera. Unfortunately, it doesn't own that land, and I believe building a path there would be expensive, illegal, or both. Personally, if it was just expensive, I&#8217;d do it. The alternative I heard mentioned was a water taxi service. I think that&#8217;s the next best thing. Anything that can cut the commute from 20 minutes to 5.</p><h1>3. High Density</h1><p>These are Tokyo and Paris.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sqhh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0d6fa83-7e69-4982-b20c-ac67e2419426_1600x575.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sqhh!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0d6fa83-7e69-4982-b20c-ac67e2419426_1600x575.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sqhh!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0d6fa83-7e69-4982-b20c-ac67e2419426_1600x575.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sqhh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0d6fa83-7e69-4982-b20c-ac67e2419426_1600x575.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sqhh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0d6fa83-7e69-4982-b20c-ac67e2419426_1600x575.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sqhh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0d6fa83-7e69-4982-b20c-ac67e2419426_1600x575.png" width="1600" height="575" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d0d6fa83-7e69-4982-b20c-ac67e2419426_1600x575.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:575,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sqhh!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0d6fa83-7e69-4982-b20c-ac67e2419426_1600x575.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sqhh!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0d6fa83-7e69-4982-b20c-ac67e2419426_1600x575.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sqhh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0d6fa83-7e69-4982-b20c-ac67e2419426_1600x575.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sqhh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0d6fa83-7e69-4982-b20c-ac67e2419426_1600x575.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Aside from no cars, these streets feel good because they have plenty of people and shops. The shops are a consequence of the people (who can pay for their services), and the people are a consequence of population density (providing enough customers per square km). The density of people, in turn, is a consequence of the tall buildings, which can house many people. In these cities, apartments are relatively small, but taller buildings can accommodate bigger apartments.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></p><p>Here, both Pr&#243;spera and Network School have had the right instincts.</p><p>NS houses people in a building originally designed as a hotel.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7OlO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F91b0be94-11e5-4a62-85e1-a873412eb17e_1600x1403.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Cleverly, the bottom floors hide the parking garage, so there are no ugly parked cars taking up green space in Pr&#243;spera.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>But one building is not enough. The next step would be to build more like this one, near each other, so that all residents can mingle and become customers of local shops.</p><h1>4. Start with Cheap, Temporary Real Estate</h1><p>There&#8217;s a chicken-and-egg issue with real estate: With few citizens, why would you invest in good real estate? But without real estate, why would you go live somewhere? The result is that either real estate developers take huge risks, or candidate citizens must choose between moving into terrible housing or not moving in at all.</p><p>The solution to this is starting with temporary real estate. You can get <a href="https://www.yalacanvaslodges.com/">high-quality</a> <a href="https://glamphouse.eu/product-category/tents/barta-safari/">yurts</a> and <a href="https://autoline.info/-/sale/mobile-homes/Conwy-2000--26040815464119029500">houses</a> for <a href="https://www.okprefab.com/expandable-container-house-guide-2025-dimensions-layouts-prices-installation/">$10,000</a> <a href="https://autoline.info/-/auction/mobile-homes/The-Aspen--26040921303855416700">apiece</a>. Once you get a group of people living together and they decide they want to stay, you can make the bigger investment of long-term real estate.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jr_g!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7da35bd6-f689-44ce-919d-258f704b52bc_1000x691.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jr_g!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7da35bd6-f689-44ce-919d-258f704b52bc_1000x691.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jr_g!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7da35bd6-f689-44ce-919d-258f704b52bc_1000x691.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jr_g!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7da35bd6-f689-44ce-919d-258f704b52bc_1000x691.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jr_g!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7da35bd6-f689-44ce-919d-258f704b52bc_1000x691.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jr_g!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7da35bd6-f689-44ce-919d-258f704b52bc_1000x691.png" width="1000" height="691" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7da35bd6-f689-44ce-919d-258f704b52bc_1000x691.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:691,&quot;width&quot;:1000,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jr_g!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7da35bd6-f689-44ce-919d-258f704b52bc_1000x691.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jr_g!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7da35bd6-f689-44ce-919d-258f704b52bc_1000x691.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jr_g!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7da35bd6-f689-44ce-919d-258f704b52bc_1000x691.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jr_g!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7da35bd6-f689-44ce-919d-258f704b52bc_1000x691.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>This type of prefab 40ft house costs ~$10k. It then needs +10&#8211;30% for insulation, windows, solar panels, terraces, and then shipping &amp; Installation. The idea for this section came from Daniel Thompson</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>15 more ideas: incentives, investments, monuments, influencers, dating, sex, religion, and more.</p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Future of Fertility]]></title><description><![CDATA[Sheila is 25. She has 17 children.]]></description><link>https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-future-of-fertility</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-future-of-fertility</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomas Pueyo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2026 08:57:57 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uw4v!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0df533af-bf5a-4867-b82a-d5852f6e41c7_1600x872.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s Saturday, 10am, and Sheila wakes up to five little bodies crawling up into her bed:</p><blockquote><p>JOHN: <em>Good morning mama!<br></em>MUM: <em>Good morning sweethearts. How did you sleep?<br></em>FELICITY: <em>Veeery well! I love you mama!<br></em>MUM: <em>Ah, I love you too&#8230;</em></p></blockquote><p>The mum, Sheila, is 25.</p><blockquote><p>MUM: <em>Did you have breakfast already?</em><br>DARON: <em>Yes Mum, the six youngest all got their bottles.</em><br>MUM: <em>Thank you kiddo. What about you and your older siblings?</em><br>DARON: <em>We all had our Saturday scrambled eggs with tuna. AR1 made Javier and Cooper their additional egg whites. Melissa, Svetlana, and Bosoma are still sleeping.<br></em>MUM: <em>Thanks for keeping tabs on it. You&#8217;re the sweetest boy. I&#8217;m going to the gym, OK? We&#8217;re going to do something cool afterwards.<br></em>OLIVIA<em>: Cool! The botanical hike?</em><br>MUM: <em>Sure! AR2, AR3, can you make sure they&#8217;re all fed, clean, and dressed up by the time I come back? Also, please come up with a fun hike, 2 hours long, that can also teach the kids about plants.</em><br>AR2: <em>Of course</em><br>MUM: <em>OK bye!</em></p></blockquote><p>Sheila grabs her gym bag from the floor, leaves the house and closes the door with peace of mind, knowing that AR1, AR2, and AR3 will take good care of her 17 children.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uw4v!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0df533af-bf5a-4867-b82a-d5852f6e41c7_1600x872.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uw4v!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0df533af-bf5a-4867-b82a-d5852f6e41c7_1600x872.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><div><hr></div><p>Fertility is dropping around the world.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5Nie!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F12a9c5a3-0078-425d-8cbc-2bf6bf53d46b_1600x1413.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5Nie!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F12a9c5a3-0078-425d-8cbc-2bf6bf53d46b_1600x1413.png 424w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/12a9c5a3-0078-425d-8cbc-2bf6bf53d46b_1600x1413.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1413,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5Nie!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F12a9c5a3-0078-425d-8cbc-2bf6bf53d46b_1600x1413.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5Nie!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F12a9c5a3-0078-425d-8cbc-2bf6bf53d46b_1600x1413.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5Nie!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F12a9c5a3-0078-425d-8cbc-2bf6bf53d46b_1600x1413.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5Nie!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F12a9c5a3-0078-425d-8cbc-2bf6bf53d46b_1600x1413.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Nobody is sure of exactly why. It must be something universal, that happens everywhere, but at different moments, and it&#8217;s not clear what fits the evidence.</p><p>My take is quite simple: Humans are pretty rational, we don&#8217;t have children like we used to because:</p><ol><li><p>Having children is less useful</p></li><li><p>Childrearing is still a drag</p></li><li><p>Life has gotten better</p></li></ol><h3>A. Children Are Less Useful</h3><p>Before, if you didn&#8217;t have children to take care of you when you aged, you died faster and poorer. They were your social security, your insurance, and your retirement income.</p><p>But as the above sentence highlights, all these roles have been replaced by the state now. Less need for children.</p><h3>B. Childrearing Is Still Quite Painful</h3><p>It&#8217;s certainly better than it was before: Women and children are much less likely to die in childbirth, there are epidurals, C-sections, universal schooling, etc. But it&#8217;s still not great:</p><ul><li><p>Women still have to grow them in their belly and give birth</p></li><li><p>Parents still don&#8217;t sleep for a few months after birth</p></li><li><p>After that, parents must pay their kids lots of attention in the early years. Breastfeeding and/or preparing bottles, changing diapers, cleaning poop, putting to sleep, dressing, bathing&#8230; The moment-to-moment can be quite boring, and even soul-crushing.</p></li><li><p>Parents must then spend the rest of their lives worrying about their education, their grades, their clothes, their food, the money to finance it all&#8230;</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0Uze!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb685ee53-580a-4dbf-b2d1-1c8ebe67841a_1600x1074.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0Uze!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb685ee53-580a-4dbf-b2d1-1c8ebe67841a_1600x1074.png" width="1600" height="1074" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/b685ee53-580a-4dbf-b2d1-1c8ebe67841a_1600x1074.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1074,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" 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When life is at stake, people have ways to make things happen.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6E7Q!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F059d6e54-0b4d-4492-aa78-ef75485ce1e6_2298x1454.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6E7Q!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F059d6e54-0b4d-4492-aa78-ef75485ce1e6_2298x1454.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6E7Q!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F059d6e54-0b4d-4492-aa78-ef75485ce1e6_2298x1454.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6E7Q!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F059d6e54-0b4d-4492-aa78-ef75485ce1e6_2298x1454.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6E7Q!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F059d6e54-0b4d-4492-aa78-ef75485ce1e6_2298x1454.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6E7Q!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F059d6e54-0b4d-4492-aa78-ef75485ce1e6_2298x1454.png" width="1456" height="921" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/059d6e54-0b4d-4492-aa78-ef75485ce1e6_2298x1454.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:921,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:119805,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/i/194163324?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F059d6e54-0b4d-4492-aa78-ef75485ce1e6_2298x1454.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6E7Q!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F059d6e54-0b4d-4492-aa78-ef75485ce1e6_2298x1454.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6E7Q!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F059d6e54-0b4d-4492-aa78-ef75485ce1e6_2298x1454.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6E7Q!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F059d6e54-0b4d-4492-aa78-ef75485ce1e6_2298x1454.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6E7Q!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F059d6e54-0b4d-4492-aa78-ef75485ce1e6_2298x1454.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>And on top of this, we had the massive increase in the cost of opportunity.</p><h3>C. Life Has Gotten Better</h3><p>Life is so much better now: better food, better shelter, more security, more education, more healthcare, more job opportunities, more entertainment, more travel&#8230; Life today is awesome compared to yesteryear.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7fcX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff44d572f-9c3c-425c-a102-d9340e35abbb_1390x1708.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7fcX!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff44d572f-9c3c-425c-a102-d9340e35abbb_1390x1708.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The better life gets (especially for women) and the more alternatives they have, the less they want to have children.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Xv1A!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F272125b1-b563-469b-aada-889af8705ca4_1600x1222.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Xv1A!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F272125b1-b563-469b-aada-889af8705ca4_1600x1222.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Xv1A!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F272125b1-b563-469b-aada-889af8705ca4_1600x1222.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Xv1A!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F272125b1-b563-469b-aada-889af8705ca4_1600x1222.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Xv1A!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F272125b1-b563-469b-aada-889af8705ca4_1600x1222.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Xv1A!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F272125b1-b563-469b-aada-889af8705ca4_1600x1222.png" width="1600" height="1222" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>So the cost and benefit of children have gone down, but the cost of opportunity has exploded. That means parents would rather enjoy life, and fertility craters.</p><p>But the high costs of having children are about to crash.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rU1l!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0c3dabe5-4871-48d1-b30d-9e107f72b388_1600x1077.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rU1l!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0c3dabe5-4871-48d1-b30d-9e107f72b388_1600x1077.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rU1l!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0c3dabe5-4871-48d1-b30d-9e107f72b388_1600x1077.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rU1l!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0c3dabe5-4871-48d1-b30d-9e107f72b388_1600x1077.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rU1l!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0c3dabe5-4871-48d1-b30d-9e107f72b388_1600x1077.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rU1l!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0c3dabe5-4871-48d1-b30d-9e107f72b388_1600x1077.png" width="1600" height="1077" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0c3dabe5-4871-48d1-b30d-9e107f72b388_1600x1077.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1077,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rU1l!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0c3dabe5-4871-48d1-b30d-9e107f72b388_1600x1077.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rU1l!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0c3dabe5-4871-48d1-b30d-9e107f72b388_1600x1077.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rU1l!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0c3dabe5-4871-48d1-b30d-9e107f72b388_1600x1077.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rU1l!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0c3dabe5-4871-48d1-b30d-9e107f72b388_1600x1077.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h1>1. Conceiving</h1><p>Right now, to conceive you need to have sex and be lucky enough to conceive. That&#8217;s enjoyable for many, but many people struggle and have to go through in-vitro fertilization. This means several rounds of injecting themselves with hormones for weeks at a time, until the woman undergoes surgery to extract the eggs. Often, that fails too.</p><p>When the egg retrieval works, many are of poor quality. Of those with high quality, many will not be fertilized by high-quality sperm, so they won&#8217;t be viable anyways. After 3+ rounds of IVF, only ~50% of couples have a successful pregnancy.</p><p>When conception works, it frequently comes with problems. <a href="https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/pregnancy-loss-miscarriage/symptoms-causes/syc-20354298">10% to 20%</a> of pregnancies end in miscarriage. <a href="https://www.cdc.gov/birth-defects/data-research/facts-stats/index.html">3%</a> of babies are born with birth defects. Of those that don&#8217;t, it&#8217;s a lottery of whether they are healthy, strong, intelligent, happy&#8230;</p><p>All of these problems will be resolved.</p><p><a href="https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanogw/article/PIIS3050-5038(25)00052-4/fulltext">In-Vitro Gametogenesis</a> will soon allow us to take any cell (eg, from the skin) and convert it into gametes, which we can then pair with high-quality gametes from the other sex to form millions of embryos.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sJAD!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8965cda-9adc-4c89-b1f6-c0ed89c401c0_800x600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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In the future, a single family could produce all this  and select the most viable ones to grow.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>After a few days of development, companies like <a href="https://www.herasight.com/">Herasight</a> will test which ones have the highest genetic quality (many times, quality genetic factors go together), and for the remaining embryos, parents will be able to calculate the tradeoffs: <em>Would I rather 4 more IQ points, or a 70% lower probability of cardiovascular diseases?</em></p><p>Parents will thus be able to generate as many high-quality embryos as they want.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></p><p>Another thing that might be compelling about this is that it makes it much easier to be a single parent, as it&#8217;s trivial to get, say, skin cells from a consenting person. If a mother (or father) wants to bring up children alone, with friends, or with extended family, they can have children who have different sets of parents.</p><p>Eventually, genetic code might be enough to generate embryos, as we might be able to print DNA molecules from one person or another, or parts of the genetic code of several people, specific types of efficient mitochondria, etc. We&#8217;ll be able to take the best genetic code for our children, and mix as much of it as we want with those of the parent. Two gays (male or female) will be able to have children with 50% of the DNA of each. We can conceive families made of several parents, each one of which shares a fraction of the child&#8217;s DNA. What if ten people got together to have 20 children, each of which had a share of DNA of each adult?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fD_2!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda683ba3-aa98-47e9-bd68-4ae9e2309818_1600x875.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fD_2!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda683ba3-aa98-47e9-bd68-4ae9e2309818_1600x875.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fD_2!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda683ba3-aa98-47e9-bd68-4ae9e2309818_1600x875.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fD_2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda683ba3-aa98-47e9-bd68-4ae9e2309818_1600x875.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fD_2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda683ba3-aa98-47e9-bd68-4ae9e2309818_1600x875.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fD_2!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda683ba3-aa98-47e9-bd68-4ae9e2309818_1600x875.png" width="1200" height="656.25" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/da683ba3-aa98-47e9-bd68-4ae9e2309818_1600x875.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:875,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fD_2!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda683ba3-aa98-47e9-bd68-4ae9e2309818_1600x875.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fD_2!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda683ba3-aa98-47e9-bd68-4ae9e2309818_1600x875.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fD_2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda683ba3-aa98-47e9-bd68-4ae9e2309818_1600x875.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fD_2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda683ba3-aa98-47e9-bd68-4ae9e2309818_1600x875.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h1>2. Pregnancy and Birth</h1><p>Today, after day 8 or so, embryos are implanted into a woman&#8217;s womb, where they grow until at least week 24 or so&#8212;ideally, full term, after which the mother has to give birth.</p><p>This is dangerous: For many women, pregnancy is uncomfortable and risky, and it can neutralize them for up to nine months, after which they go through a traumatic event (birth), which can kill them (<a href="https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/maternal-mortality">~0.2%</a> of pregnancies). Those who survive might have vaginal tearing, anal tearing, incontinence, prolapses&#8230; Many women then have postnatal depression (&#8220;baby blues&#8221;).</p><p>The reason we must implant into a human uterus is regulatory and scientific. Today, we have the technology to keep growing embryos until Day 13, and we haven&#8217;t done more because it&#8217;s illegal.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> Foetuses can survive after Week 24 and until Week 40+, so we just need to extend the artificial womb capabilities between Weeks 2 and 24 (the remaining 55% of pregnancy), which requires the ability to grow embryos beyond Day 13.</p><p>Scientists have been able to push into both ends of this cycle with mammals: implanting a fetus after the 14 day equivalent for humans and extracting it into an artificial womb before the 24 week equivalent.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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If we try, we&#8217;ll be able to do it in the coming decades.</p><h1>3. Early Childcare</h1><p>Parenting a young child is brutal. You don&#8217;t sleep more than 4 hours straight. The little monster wakes up every couple of hours screaming. You don't know whether he cries because he&#8217;s hungry, tired, bored, scared, thirsty, dirty&#8230; You do whatever you can to figure it out. If he doesn&#8217;t cry, you&#8217;re even MORE concerned: Is he dead of SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome)? All this while you still must do the groceries, get the baby&#8217;s paperwork done, prep the formula, cook for yourself, wash the clothes, clean the house, buy the gear you&#8217;re missing&#8230;</p><p>Rich families employ humans to do all this, starting with the night nanny that helps them get sleep. But none of this is impossibly mysterious work. It&#8217;s pretty straightforward, just tiring. Humanoid robots and AIs will be perfect for it. It looks like we&#8217;re going to have them in less than a decade, so starting then, early childcare will be a matter of how many robots you can afford and how efficiently they work. The more robots we buy, the more their cost will drop, and the more we will be able to automate this.</p><h1>4. Later Childcare</h1><p>As they grow up, you need to cook for them, buy them clothes, watch out for them, push them to study, clean up their rooms, pack up, get dressed, undressed, brush their teeth, go to bed, take them to school, to their extracurriculars&#8230;</p><p>Currently, the solutions for childcare are either nannies or school. But they&#8217;re both expensive, and neither is perfect.</p><p>Humanoid robots will never tire, you will be able to have many, you will be able to combine them with other robots like self-driving cars to take children to school, and all these time-consuming tasks will disappear.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B7xf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3f12b17-53c1-43a3-955f-28d2af093764_1600x879.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B7xf!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3f12b17-53c1-43a3-955f-28d2af093764_1600x879.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B7xf!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3f12b17-53c1-43a3-955f-28d2af093764_1600x879.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B7xf!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3f12b17-53c1-43a3-955f-28d2af093764_1600x879.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B7xf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3f12b17-53c1-43a3-955f-28d2af093764_1600x879.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B7xf!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3f12b17-53c1-43a3-955f-28d2af093764_1600x879.png" width="1200" height="659.25" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f3f12b17-53c1-43a3-955f-28d2af093764_1600x879.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:879,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B7xf!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3f12b17-53c1-43a3-955f-28d2af093764_1600x879.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B7xf!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3f12b17-53c1-43a3-955f-28d2af093764_1600x879.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B7xf!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3f12b17-53c1-43a3-955f-28d2af093764_1600x879.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B7xf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3f12b17-53c1-43a3-955f-28d2af093764_1600x879.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>When I first thought about this, I wondered: Is this dystopic? I conclude it&#8217;s not. Many families who can afford it have employees who help them with all these chores. As a parent, you&#8217;ll be able to decide which ones you want to keep doing and which ones you&#8217;d like to outsource to robots. For example, I wouldn&#8217;t want to outsource the bedtime routine, but picking up from school, changing clothes, doing the laundry, cooking, serving dinner, cleaning afterwards, and many similar tasks are much better outsourced for me. If I had 10 children instead of 4, I might need a robot to help, but I&#8217;d be managing it.</p><h1>5. Education</h1><p>Education is the other massive time sink for parents. School is not enough to push people to their maximum potential, which is why parents also get involved. Even a single child might be overwhelming, though, because children learn best with one-on-one tutoring, as we&#8217;ll see in a future article. Robots and AI tutors will be able to tutor children much better than parents and teachers, giving parents peace of mind about their children&#8217;s education.</p><h1>6. Family Coordination</h1><p>Conceiving and coordinating all the activities of a small family is a nightmare, imagine if you have 10 children instead of 2. From <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/why-is-fertility-down-and-how-much">my article</a> on this topic:</p><blockquote><p><em>Do the children have enough food to eat? Does the fridge have the ingredients? Are their vaccines in order? Do they have the flu or something worse? Are their documents in order? Who will they have playdates with? AIs are already becoming personal assistants. It&#8217;s trivial to imagine them as family assistants, which will further reduce the cost of having children.</em></p></blockquote><h1>Why Have Kids Then?</h1><p>If we take out all this work, you might wonder: What&#8217;s even the point of having children? If you take out all this work, do you even really want to have these children? Do you care about them?</p><p>I actually think these chores are not the main source of happiness and connection with your children. Sure, telling them to clean up again and again contributes a little bit to connection, but also, if you eliminate all these moments, that gives parents much more time to focus on the moments that matter: dinner, reading a bedtime story, holidays, travel, conversations about the world&#8230; These are the most pleasurable and fulfilling moments for both children and parents.</p><p>Here&#8217;s a fact you might have noticed if you&#8217;ve had a nanny: Children quickly forget most of them. Even if they spent years with them, they become a distant memory after a few years. They don&#8217;t care if they stop seeing them altogether.</p><p>Conversely, a child who was abandoned by their mother or father will dwell on it all their lives.</p><p>This tells you that chores are not that important, and that the figure of the parent is intrinsically important for the child. And the child is one of the biggest conceivable sources of fulfillment for the parent, so it&#8217;s a win-win.</p><p>Another important fact: Children appear much needier than they actually are. <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/family-wars">Humans are evolved</a> to appear super needy to their parents as children, because that way the parents overinvest in them, and they don&#8217;t have time for any more children. This was crucial for survival in the past, because fewer children meant more food per child. What this means is it&#8217;s OK not to give your children all the attention they demand. They won&#8217;t turn bad.</p><p>Having more children will dilute a little bit the intensity of the relationship with each, but the additional love more than counterbalances it.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N4mx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7763c376-5ca2-4a6e-af4b-c64f03eb1543_1600x1149.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N4mx!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7763c376-5ca2-4a6e-af4b-c64f03eb1543_1600x1149.png 424w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N4mx!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7763c376-5ca2-4a6e-af4b-c64f03eb1543_1600x1149.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N4mx!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7763c376-5ca2-4a6e-af4b-c64f03eb1543_1600x1149.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N4mx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7763c376-5ca2-4a6e-af4b-c64f03eb1543_1600x1149.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Very sciency quantification</em></figcaption></figure></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h1>How Many Children Will We Have in the Future Then?</h1><p>You can see there are actually many variables at play here:</p><ul><li><p>Benefits to having children might go down a very tiny bit because more help at home reduces slightly the attachment to each. Still, the benefits will remain huge because there&#8217;s little that&#8217;s more fulfilling than the love of a child.</p></li><li><p>Costs to having children are going to plummet at each stage though, from conception to education. This means the ROI of having children will go through the roof.</p></li><li><p>Most notably, this will free so much time for parents that they won&#8217;t have to choose between children and enjoying life.</p></li></ul><p>In some ways, this will simply bring to the masses the fertility that only rich people can comfortably afford.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AZst!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43f1c178-759c-437b-9f92-53463ac11d2d_1300x975.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AZst!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43f1c178-759c-437b-9f92-53463ac11d2d_1300x975.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AZst!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43f1c178-759c-437b-9f92-53463ac11d2d_1300x975.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AZst!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43f1c178-759c-437b-9f92-53463ac11d2d_1300x975.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AZst!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43f1c178-759c-437b-9f92-53463ac11d2d_1300x975.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AZst!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43f1c178-759c-437b-9f92-53463ac11d2d_1300x975.png" width="1300" height="975" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/43f1c178-759c-437b-9f92-53463ac11d2d_1300x975.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:975,&quot;width&quot;:1300,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AZst!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43f1c178-759c-437b-9f92-53463ac11d2d_1300x975.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AZst!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43f1c178-759c-437b-9f92-53463ac11d2d_1300x975.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AZst!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43f1c178-759c-437b-9f92-53463ac11d2d_1300x975.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AZst!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43f1c178-759c-437b-9f92-53463ac11d2d_1300x975.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>So how many children will we have? It depends.</p><ul><li><p>Some people will still think the hassle of children won&#8217;t be worth it, either because they don&#8217;t value children, because they don&#8217;t want to do it alone and can&#8217;t find a partner, or any other reason.</p></li><li><p>Many people who love children now, but can&#8217;t commit to parenthood because of the toll on their health and quality of life, will be able to have (many?) more than none.</p></li><li><p>At the extreme, some people who truly love children and want to have as many as they can will now be unbridled. Families of 10, 20, 50, 100 children might become possible.</p></li></ul><p>The distribution of children per woman might look like this:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSpR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8f9bbf5-0927-4c13-aadc-67d5c599b0d0_1600x745.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSpR!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8f9bbf5-0927-4c13-aadc-67d5c599b0d0_1600x745.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSpR!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8f9bbf5-0927-4c13-aadc-67d5c599b0d0_1600x745.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSpR!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8f9bbf5-0927-4c13-aadc-67d5c599b0d0_1600x745.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSpR!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8f9bbf5-0927-4c13-aadc-67d5c599b0d0_1600x745.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSpR!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8f9bbf5-0927-4c13-aadc-67d5c599b0d0_1600x745.png" width="1600" height="745" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c8f9bbf5-0927-4c13-aadc-67d5c599b0d0_1600x745.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:745,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSpR!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8f9bbf5-0927-4c13-aadc-67d5c599b0d0_1600x745.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSpR!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8f9bbf5-0927-4c13-aadc-67d5c599b0d0_1600x745.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSpR!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8f9bbf5-0927-4c13-aadc-67d5c599b0d0_1600x745.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSpR!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8f9bbf5-0927-4c13-aadc-67d5c599b0d0_1600x745.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Actuals for today are not made up (in the US, up till 3 children per woman). After that, there&#8217;s very little data, so I had to make it up</em></figcaption></figure></div><ul><li><p>Some people might still decide to have no children because they simply don&#8217;t want to.</p></li><li><p>But many of those who remain childless today might decide to have children: With a much lower cost of parenthood, they might jump in even if they&#8217;re not partnered, or just to try.</p></li><li><p>Families with one or two children today because it&#8217;s so much work might decide to have one or two more.</p></li><li><p>Families who have three or more children today really do love children, and have fewer than they wish they had. They might go for four, five, six, seven&#8230;</p></li><li><p>The type of family who is already having eight or ten children will be completely unbridled.</p></li></ul><p>This last group is interesting, because what stopped many of these families from having more children before was probably the cost: on the mother&#8217;s body, the parents&#8217; attention, or simply the economics of paying for school, clothes, food, and shelter.</p><p>But as we said, most of these constraints will be released in the future.</p><p>School will become near-free AI school. Childcare will be done by robots. Clothes are already quite cheap, and will be cheaper. Children of the same approximate ages can share them. Food costs will shrink in the coming decades, as we&#8217;ll have energy and robotic abundance, which will allow for <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-promise-of-vertical-farming">vertical</a> <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-can-vertical-farms-become-viable">farms</a> to <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-future-of-food-from-first-principles">produce</a> lots of good, cheap food.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a></p><p>So what will become the new constraint to having children? The one thing we&#8217;re not going to be making more of is land. A family with 100 children doesn&#8217;t need a home with 100 rooms though, children could share rooms four at a time, or there can be dormitories. But they still need physical space. Today, we think in terms of housing in cities, where it&#8217;s expensive because:</p><ul><li><p>The land is in high demand</p></li><li><p>Construction costs are high due to high regulatory requirements</p></li></ul><p>But a family with 100 children would probably prefer living in a rural area, or with similar families, so real estate will be cheaper than we assume today.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-ONX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc7e5e817-4bc6-4a33-8dec-b7e51e3b7ea0_2826x1884.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The other thing we&#8217;re not making more of is attention. So maybe the new limiting factor won&#8217;t be economic, but how many children we just want to have and create a connection with. Most people might stop at 2-10 children for that reason, but I&#8217;m sure some families will love having many more. As an interesting real-world proxy, it&#8217;s interesting to know that a Russian woman had <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_with_the_most_children">69 children</a>. My thesis here is that we&#8217;re anchored on what was possible until now, so families of more than 10 children sound like an aberration to us. But the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number">Dunbar number</a> (a cognitive limit to the number of people with whom one can maintain stable social relationships) gives us a good sense of the actual limit of a community. I bet there will be families with 150 children.</p><p>If the points above are true, it would only take very few couples having a lot of children for the fertility crisis to completely evaporate, and in fact become a radical fertility boom.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cHvQ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f7a3f1e-38e3-4cd5-8d9f-7ec41bca37f7_1600x1473.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cHvQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f7a3f1e-38e3-4cd5-8d9f-7ec41bca37f7_1600x1473.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cHvQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f7a3f1e-38e3-4cd5-8d9f-7ec41bca37f7_1600x1473.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cHvQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f7a3f1e-38e3-4cd5-8d9f-7ec41bca37f7_1600x1473.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cHvQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f7a3f1e-38e3-4cd5-8d9f-7ec41bca37f7_1600x1473.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cHvQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f7a3f1e-38e3-4cd5-8d9f-7ec41bca37f7_1600x1473.png" width="1600" height="1473" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7f7a3f1e-38e3-4cd5-8d9f-7ec41bca37f7_1600x1473.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1473,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cHvQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f7a3f1e-38e3-4cd5-8d9f-7ec41bca37f7_1600x1473.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cHvQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f7a3f1e-38e3-4cd5-8d9f-7ec41bca37f7_1600x1473.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cHvQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f7a3f1e-38e3-4cd5-8d9f-7ec41bca37f7_1600x1473.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cHvQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f7a3f1e-38e3-4cd5-8d9f-7ec41bca37f7_1600x1473.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>What are the consequences of this?</p><ol><li><p>I am skeptical of the fertility collapse narrative. It will take decades for it to really hit, and lots of things can happen in decades.</p></li><li><p>People who mourn never having children will practically disappear. This is dear to my heart, as having children is one of the most fulfilling things people can experience.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a></p></li><li><p>Families with many more children than today might become more common in the future.</p></li><li><p>Families with dozens and dozens of children, practically unheard of today, will become something we hear about, and get to experience first hand.</p></li><li><p>Families with 100+ children will exist.</p></li><li><p>If it&#8217;s true, real estate might suffer a lull in the coming decades as fertility decline continues, but afterwards it might go stratospheric.</p></li><li><p>If that&#8217;s the case, urbanism will have to change. We&#8217;ll need <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/100-billion-humans">more cities with taller buildings</a>.</p></li><li><p>This is another reason to colonize Mars and build space habitats.</p></li><li><p>We might be able to select human embryos / engineer them to make life on Mars more feasible. For example, bodies that can withstand a lower gravity, a few more unprotected solar rays, or an ultracold environment.</p></li><li><p>If you really care about the fertility collapse, go work in one of the industries I&#8217;m mentioning above.</p></li><li><p>If you&#8217;re a politician, or work in media, work to release the limits on research in artificial wombs and blastocyte development.</p></li><li><p>All of this assumes AI won&#8217;t change fertility dramatically.</p></li></ol><p>Yes, Sheila, from the beginning of the article, is possible. She might become one of many women&#8212;or men&#8212;who simply go along with their lives in a new type of happy family.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-future-of-fertility?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-future-of-fertility?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>And in case this makes you uncomfortable, just know that at that point the cells are undifferentiated, meaning they&#8217;re just a handful of identical cells, not very different from the original skin cells that might have been extracted for the process.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>Aria Shrecker writes in detail about artificial wombs <a href="https://worksinprogress.co/issue/womb-for-improvement/">here</a></em>.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>The two main costs of vertical farms are labor and energy. If you shrink these, they will have a tremendous advantage over traditional farms, as vertical farms waste much less fertilizer, water, and use less land.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>If you don&#8217;t want to have children, good for you! But if you do, what a horrible thing to not be able to have them.</em></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Cold Start Problem of New Cities & States]]></title><description><![CDATA[There are not enough countries. Not enough cities or jurisdictions. Here's how we can grow new ones faster.]]></description><link>https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-cold-start-problem-of-new-cities</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-cold-start-problem-of-new-cities</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomas Pueyo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2026 14:46:07 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!c7x1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9fa4668e-6d13-4680-af2a-87dcafb79aab_1600x1125.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are not enough countries.<br>There are not enough jurisdictions. <br>There are not enough new cities. </p><p>This is terrible, because entrenched interests freeze governments over time. They make change impossible; you can&#8217;t easily update regulation. We end up with the sclerotic democracies and enshittified cities we suffer in the West.</p><p>But this is new! Just a century ago, regulations were light, and vast swaths of continents, including America, Africa, Asia, and Australia, barely had any. The growth of the 20<sup>th</sup> century was in part because of this freedom. No more.</p><p>But some people are not satisfied with the status quo. Across the world, visionary founders are building new cities and jurisdictions near Singapore, Abu Dhabi, Rio de Janeiro, San Francisco, on the Honduran island of Roat&#225;n, on islands off the African shore, near Nairobi&#8230; They dream of a better world where the government doesn&#8217;t impose all its answers on its citizens, where they&#8217;re treated not as subjects but as customers, where regulatory exploration is welcome.</p><p>I&#8217;ve traveled the world to talk with dozens of them over the last year and a half. In every conversation, the atmosphere has been electric. I feel like I&#8217;m witnessing history in the making, like when the founding fathers were crafting the US Constitution.</p><p>But when their vision meets the reality on the ground, these leaders share one problem: How do we grow a new city or jurisdiction from scratch?</p><p>Today, I&#8217;m putting everything I know in one piece, to help them&#8212;and you&#8212;think about this problem. Hopefully, this will accelerate the process and we&#8217;ll have hundreds of new jurisdictions in the coming decades. Maybe it will inspire you to move to one.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>I traveled to many of the places covered in this article to get you the news from the ground. If you want more of this type of reporting, support Uncharted Territories!</em></p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!c7x1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9fa4668e-6d13-4680-af2a-87dcafb79aab_1600x1125.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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I gave speeches at all three over the last ~6 months.</em></figcaption></figure></div><h1>The Cold Start Problem of New Cites &amp; States</h1><p>How do you compete against New York, Madrid, Singapore, or Tokyo?</p><p>When you have millions of creative professionals, good schools, shops, museums, airports, highways, buses, gyms, IKEAs, cinemas, theaters, restaurants, sports facilities, parks, swimming pools&#8230; It&#8217;s easy to attract thousands of ambitious young people to participate in civic life and add their value. But what if you&#8217;re the president of Liberland?<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QHdK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98f1dd5d-5428-480c-80e5-6750d2017174_1600x980.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QHdK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98f1dd5d-5428-480c-80e5-6750d2017174_1600x980.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QHdK!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98f1dd5d-5428-480c-80e5-6750d2017174_1600x980.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QHdK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98f1dd5d-5428-480c-80e5-6750d2017174_1600x980.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QHdK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98f1dd5d-5428-480c-80e5-6750d2017174_1600x980.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QHdK!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98f1dd5d-5428-480c-80e5-6750d2017174_1600x980.png" width="1200" height="735" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/98f1dd5d-5428-480c-80e5-6750d2017174_1600x980.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:980,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QHdK!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98f1dd5d-5428-480c-80e5-6750d2017174_1600x980.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QHdK!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98f1dd5d-5428-480c-80e5-6750d2017174_1600x980.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QHdK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98f1dd5d-5428-480c-80e5-6750d2017174_1600x980.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QHdK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98f1dd5d-5428-480c-80e5-6750d2017174_1600x980.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The average person doesn&#8217;t want to go to an empty piece of land between two countries, devoid of schools, shops, restaurants, or even houses! It&#8217;s much easier to grow a city from 1,000,000 people to 1,000,100, than from 0 to 100, because of network effects.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0D7E!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F540c6abf-7483-466f-ac24-c6572ac01787_1600x924.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0D7E!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F540c6abf-7483-466f-ac24-c6572ac01787_1600x924.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0D7E!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F540c6abf-7483-466f-ac24-c6572ac01787_1600x924.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0D7E!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F540c6abf-7483-466f-ac24-c6572ac01787_1600x924.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0D7E!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F540c6abf-7483-466f-ac24-c6572ac01787_1600x924.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0D7E!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F540c6abf-7483-466f-ac24-c6572ac01787_1600x924.png" width="1600" height="924" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/540c6abf-7483-466f-ac24-c6572ac01787_1600x924.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:924,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0D7E!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F540c6abf-7483-466f-ac24-c6572ac01787_1600x924.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0D7E!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F540c6abf-7483-466f-ac24-c6572ac01787_1600x924.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0D7E!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F540c6abf-7483-466f-ac24-c6572ac01787_1600x924.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0D7E!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F540c6abf-7483-466f-ac24-c6572ac01787_1600x924.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>If a community has only one person and adds a second one, this person only adds a little bit of value because she can only help the first one, and the odds that she&#8217;s useful are low. But if a city already has one million people, one new person can probably help many other people in the city, so she&#8217;s much more valuable.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>This is the resulting value of cities:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v1U0!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ebee0ad-bd68-4d5e-8f4d-bd1d10a7151d_1600x1257.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v1U0!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ebee0ad-bd68-4d5e-8f4d-bd1d10a7151d_1600x1257.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v1U0!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ebee0ad-bd68-4d5e-8f4d-bd1d10a7151d_1600x1257.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v1U0!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ebee0ad-bd68-4d5e-8f4d-bd1d10a7151d_1600x1257.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v1U0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ebee0ad-bd68-4d5e-8f4d-bd1d10a7151d_1600x1257.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v1U0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ebee0ad-bd68-4d5e-8f4d-bd1d10a7151d_1600x1257.png" width="1600" height="1257" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2ebee0ad-bd68-4d5e-8f4d-bd1d10a7151d_1600x1257.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1257,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v1U0!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ebee0ad-bd68-4d5e-8f4d-bd1d10a7151d_1600x1257.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v1U0!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ebee0ad-bd68-4d5e-8f4d-bd1d10a7151d_1600x1257.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v1U0!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ebee0ad-bd68-4d5e-8f4d-bd1d10a7151d_1600x1257.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v1U0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ebee0ad-bd68-4d5e-8f4d-bd1d10a7151d_1600x1257.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This is why the bigger a city, the fewer such cities exist: The bigger ones suck in all the population from their surroundings. The bigger they are, the more they attract.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VvLa!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa01e9807-3f2c-4bf4-bd61-b6af17e9fa1c_855x741.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VvLa!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa01e9807-3f2c-4bf4-bd61-b6af17e9fa1c_855x741.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VvLa!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa01e9807-3f2c-4bf4-bd61-b6af17e9fa1c_855x741.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VvLa!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa01e9807-3f2c-4bf4-bd61-b6af17e9fa1c_855x741.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VvLa!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa01e9807-3f2c-4bf4-bd61-b6af17e9fa1c_855x741.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VvLa!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa01e9807-3f2c-4bf4-bd61-b6af17e9fa1c_855x741.png" width="855" height="741" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a01e9807-3f2c-4bf4-bd61-b6af17e9fa1c_855x741.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:741,&quot;width&quot;:855,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VvLa!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa01e9807-3f2c-4bf4-bd61-b6af17e9fa1c_855x741.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VvLa!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa01e9807-3f2c-4bf4-bd61-b6af17e9fa1c_855x741.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VvLa!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa01e9807-3f2c-4bf4-bd61-b6af17e9fa1c_855x741.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VvLa!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa01e9807-3f2c-4bf4-bd61-b6af17e9fa1c_855x741.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Horizontally, cities are ranked based on their size, so the biggest cities are New York [log(1)=0], then comes Mumbai, etc. Their population is in the vertical axis. Both axes are logarithmic, showing that there are very few cities at the top, and the smaller the city size, the more of such cities there are. <a href="https://brenocon.com/blog/2009/05/zipfs-law-and-world-city-populations/">Source</a>.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>This suggests that it&#8217;s hard to go from 1 citizen to 10, which is as hard as going from 10 to 100, from 100 to 1000, and so on, because bigger and bigger cities are rarer and rarer, in an exponential way. Every order of magnitude of growth is as hard as the previous one.</p><p>Going from 1 to a small city of 10,000 means 4 orders of magnitude of difficulty. This is the cold start problem: When something is worthless when it&#8217;s small but very valuable when it&#8217;s big, how do you get from small to big? It&#8217;s hard to start a city from scratch! How do you solve it?</p><h1>The Dubais &amp; Singapores</h1><p>The sacred blueprints that all new cities want to emulate are Singapore and Dubai, two city-states that grew from early 1900s backwaters to some of the richest places on Earth. How?</p><h3>Dubai</h3><p>Dubai doesn&#8217;t seem as amazing today as it was a few months ago, given the Iranian attacks, but I would argue that it doesn&#8217;t change anything: Dubai is as exposed as other capitals in the region like Riyadh, Abu Dhabi, Bahrain, or Doha. If anything, it&#8217;s a target <em>because </em>it&#8217;s so successful.</p><p>I covered <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/dubai">the city here</a>: In the early 1900s, it enlarged its creek, provided free warehouse space for goods, eliminated trade taxes, and guaranteed security for all trading ships. This is the result people know:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BjOR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F220e48fe-efa6-4f78-8139-4a41bb346721_1480x1070.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BjOR!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F220e48fe-efa6-4f78-8139-4a41bb346721_1480x1070.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BjOR!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F220e48fe-efa6-4f78-8139-4a41bb346721_1480x1070.png 848w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BjOR!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F220e48fe-efa6-4f78-8139-4a41bb346721_1480x1070.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BjOR!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F220e48fe-efa6-4f78-8139-4a41bb346721_1480x1070.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BjOR!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F220e48fe-efa6-4f78-8139-4a41bb346721_1480x1070.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>But this inflection point hides the true reality:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lhMN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F489189f0-b646-4f62-ab28-72a5949dd2aa_1480x1104.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lhMN!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F489189f0-b646-4f62-ab28-72a5949dd2aa_1480x1104.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lhMN!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F489189f0-b646-4f62-ab28-72a5949dd2aa_1480x1104.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lhMN!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F489189f0-b646-4f62-ab28-72a5949dd2aa_1480x1104.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lhMN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F489189f0-b646-4f62-ab28-72a5949dd2aa_1480x1104.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lhMN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F489189f0-b646-4f62-ab28-72a5949dd2aa_1480x1104.png" width="1480" height="1104" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lhMN!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F489189f0-b646-4f62-ab28-72a5949dd2aa_1480x1104.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lhMN!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F489189f0-b646-4f62-ab28-72a5949dd2aa_1480x1104.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lhMN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F489189f0-b646-4f62-ab28-72a5949dd2aa_1480x1104.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>It took two centuries of growth, including over a century of constant support for these policies, for Dubai to win. We can see our rule at play here: Every order of magnitude of growth took the same amount of time as the previous one.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R3EQ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45c85ef4-b93e-4f57-83aa-255e59a03d84_1210x584.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R3EQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45c85ef4-b93e-4f57-83aa-255e59a03d84_1210x584.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R3EQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45c85ef4-b93e-4f57-83aa-255e59a03d84_1210x584.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R3EQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45c85ef4-b93e-4f57-83aa-255e59a03d84_1210x584.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R3EQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45c85ef4-b93e-4f57-83aa-255e59a03d84_1210x584.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R3EQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45c85ef4-b93e-4f57-83aa-255e59a03d84_1210x584.png" width="1210" height="584" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/45c85ef4-b93e-4f57-83aa-255e59a03d84_1210x584.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:584,&quot;width&quot;:1210,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R3EQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45c85ef4-b93e-4f57-83aa-255e59a03d84_1210x584.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R3EQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45c85ef4-b93e-4f57-83aa-255e59a03d84_1210x584.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R3EQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45c85ef4-b93e-4f57-83aa-255e59a03d84_1210x584.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R3EQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45c85ef4-b93e-4f57-83aa-255e59a03d84_1210x584.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Dubai&#8217;s Jebel Ali port</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Dubai solved its cold-start problem through a century-long commitment to cater to tradesmen. First came the shipping companies, followed by the merchants of the goods transported by the shippers. Merchants need loans and currency exchange and insurance, so a finance industry emerged. They need a strong administration with an efficient police force that keeps the peace and prevents theft, a working judicial system to adjudicate conflicts, a bureaucracy that can keep norms nimble, good schools and healthcare systems to serve all these people.</p><h3>Singapore</h3><p>I&#8217;ll write a deeper article on Singapore at some point, but here&#8217;s a short summary of its growth.</p><p>Everybody thinks Singapore was a backwater when it got its independence from Malaysia in 1965, but this is not the case. Why did it become independent? Because it had a majority of ethnic Chinese citizens. Any why is that, given that Singapore is 2,500 km away from China? Because it had been the major British port in the region for centuries. When Lee Kuan Yew assumed leadership in 1965, he did an amazing job in developing the nearly 2M people who already lived there and the logistics hub he inherited.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVBR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40d080ba-c7da-43e5-a57e-24888468c24b_1600x1066.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVBR!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40d080ba-c7da-43e5-a57e-24888468c24b_1600x1066.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVBR!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40d080ba-c7da-43e5-a57e-24888468c24b_1600x1066.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVBR!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40d080ba-c7da-43e5-a57e-24888468c24b_1600x1066.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVBR!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40d080ba-c7da-43e5-a57e-24888468c24b_1600x1066.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVBR!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40d080ba-c7da-43e5-a57e-24888468c24b_1600x1066.png" width="1600" height="1066" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/40d080ba-c7da-43e5-a57e-24888468c24b_1600x1066.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1066,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVBR!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40d080ba-c7da-43e5-a57e-24888468c24b_1600x1066.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVBR!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40d080ba-c7da-43e5-a57e-24888468c24b_1600x1066.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVBR!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40d080ba-c7da-43e5-a57e-24888468c24b_1600x1066.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVBR!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40d080ba-c7da-43e5-a57e-24888468c24b_1600x1066.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>Port SEZs</h3><p>Dubai, Singapore, but also Hong Kong, Shenzhen, Shanghai&#8230; They all followed the same pattern: convert a village into a port via SEZs (Special Economic Zones) with low taxes and administrative burden, services for shipping and trade, and safety. From there, growing investment in infrastructure to make operations easier and easier. From there to finance, other industries, and a growing population thanks to network effects.</p><p>Many cities try to emulate this today.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!stF0!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5dbe7409-4fe2-4f18-8cf5-4f58002fce52_1600x761.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!stF0!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5dbe7409-4fe2-4f18-8cf5-4f58002fce52_1600x761.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!stF0!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5dbe7409-4fe2-4f18-8cf5-4f58002fce52_1600x761.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!stF0!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5dbe7409-4fe2-4f18-8cf5-4f58002fce52_1600x761.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!stF0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5dbe7409-4fe2-4f18-8cf5-4f58002fce52_1600x761.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!stF0!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5dbe7409-4fe2-4f18-8cf5-4f58002fce52_1600x761.png" width="1200" height="570.75" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5dbe7409-4fe2-4f18-8cf5-4f58002fce52_1600x761.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:761,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!stF0!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5dbe7409-4fe2-4f18-8cf5-4f58002fce52_1600x761.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!stF0!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5dbe7409-4fe2-4f18-8cf5-4f58002fce52_1600x761.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!stF0!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5dbe7409-4fe2-4f18-8cf5-4f58002fce52_1600x761.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!stF0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5dbe7409-4fe2-4f18-8cf5-4f58002fce52_1600x761.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Map of SEZs in the world. Not all of these are portuary. <a href="https://www.openzonemap.com/map">Source</a>.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Which parts of the world are most promising for locating new cities or city-states? I&#8217;ll cover this in another article, but the short answer is that there aren&#8217;t that many ideal spots, and we only need so many ports. We need another model for growing new cities. How do you most successfully go from 1 to 10,000 inhabitants?</p><h1>Customer Needs</h1><p>Cities must attract customers&#8212;inhabitants. What do they need?</p><ol><li><p>Nice, affordable housing</p></li><li><p>As little crime as possible</p></li><li><p>Good transportation infrastructure</p></li><li><p>Reliable utilities: energy, water, phone, Internet</p></li><li><p>Core services: education and healthcare</p></li><li><p>As many amenities as possible</p></li><li><p>A dating pool</p></li><li><p>Jobs</p></li></ol><p>Some of these are better in small cities, others in big cities. However, some matter more than others. How does that translate into competitive advantages?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZdHf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F49aa73fb-f009-4950-a092-de95b7f9d969_1516x1213.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZdHf!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F49aa73fb-f009-4950-a092-de95b7f9d969_1516x1213.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZdHf!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F49aa73fb-f009-4950-a092-de95b7f9d969_1516x1213.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZdHf!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F49aa73fb-f009-4950-a092-de95b7f9d969_1516x1213.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZdHf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F49aa73fb-f009-4950-a092-de95b7f9d969_1516x1213.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZdHf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F49aa73fb-f009-4950-a092-de95b7f9d969_1516x1213.png" width="1516" height="1213" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/49aa73fb-f009-4950-a092-de95b7f9d969_1516x1213.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1213,&quot;width&quot;:1516,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZdHf!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F49aa73fb-f009-4950-a092-de95b7f9d969_1516x1213.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZdHf!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F49aa73fb-f009-4950-a092-de95b7f9d969_1516x1213.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZdHf!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F49aa73fb-f009-4950-a092-de95b7f9d969_1516x1213.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZdHf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F49aa73fb-f009-4950-a092-de95b7f9d969_1516x1213.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>I made this up to convey the idea.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>This is probably the most important graph of this article. If you understand it, you&#8217;ll get the challenges for small cities to grow into big ones.</p><h3>The Advantages of Tiny Communities</h3><p>Tiny communities (tens to low hundreds of people) can get affordable housing, good utilities, and low crime:</p><ul><li><p>Utilities (water, electricity, Internet, phone) are now as easy to get in small cities as big ones, so there&#8217;s no competitive advantage: Get Internet and phone with Starlink, electricity with solar panels and batteries, and water from a local well or source, with a water treatment system if needed.</p></li><li><p>Crime is less in smaller communities, since everybody knows each other, and the communities can easily vet newcomers. A few guards can solve any problem from external communities.</p></li><li><p>Housing tends to be much cheaper in small areas because land is cheaper.</p></li><li><p>It&#8217;s easy to shape a small community&#8217;s culture: You can hand-pick the people, hand-craft the events, hand-build the environment to nudge people&#8217;s behaviors, and it&#8217;s small enough that virtually everybody knows everybody else, creating a tight feeling of belonging. This is the exact opposite of a megapolis, where people can be alone in the midst of multitudes, and loneliness is rampant.</p></li></ul><h3>The Advantages of Small Towns</h3><p>Small towns, with high hundreds to a few thousand people, retain most of the benefits of tiny communities, and add new benefits as they grow:</p><ul><li><p>You need a few hundred citizens to warrant a school. Before that, you&#8217;re basically blocked from attracting families. When solutions like AI education and humanoid robot caretakers become widespread, this will change.</p></li><li><p>With a few hundred citizens, you also get amenities like a gym, restaurant, bar, or supermarket.</p></li><li><p>A clinic needs a few thousand citizens.</p></li><li><p>Competition between schools starts with tens of thousands of citizens.</p></li><li><p>Hospitals and universities require several tens of thousands, or even hundreds of thousands of people.</p></li><li><p>If citizens are like-minded, a few hundred to a few thousand people is enough to start finding partners: After all, we lived in small villages forever and were still able to couple up. If you&#8217;ve ever lived on a college campus or in a small town, you might have felt the <em>fishbowl effect</em>: As time passes, the few options available <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mere-exposure_effect">become</a> more and more attractive. That said, I fear the fishbowl effect is weakened with the current access to world standards of attractiveness via Instagram and the like. It makes it harder to settle for whoever is available.</p></li></ul><h3>The Killer Advantage of Big Cities</h3><ul><li><p>Amenities grow dramatically with population size. You get a variety of restaurants, shops, gyms, doctors, dentists, lawyers, repairs&#8230;</p></li><li><p>Transportation can get congested as cities grow, but at least they get airports, train stations, highways, and the like. If you need to travel the world, you need an international airport within 1-2h.</p></li><li><p>Dating pools become super deep in big cities. Anybody can find someone they like. However, choice can become overwhelming, so I don&#8217;t think dating gets exponentially better with bigger populations.</p></li></ul><p>But the most important factor, by far, is jobs.</p><p>Jobs pay for everything else. They are the main reason why people move to big cities, for economic opportunity. And the network effects are massive:<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a></p><ul><li><p>The more businesses, the more likely a person can find a position that suits their unique skills. And vice-versa: The more workers, the more businesses can find the right employee for them.</p></li><li><p>Workers and businesses can both specialize more.</p></li><li><p>With more job opportunities, the time needed to find a good job is shorter, so there&#8217;s less unemployment.</p></li><li><p>As companies develop specialized knowledge, it spreads to other companies through observation, informal conversations, and job hopping.</p></li><li><p>Industry clusters can appear as suppliers start colocating with vendors to reduce costs. Cities integrate vertically.</p></li><li><p>Because of all this, people are more productive in cities, which earns them higher wages, so there are more amenities and more companies and more jobs, which attract more people.</p></li></ul><p>Knowing this, how can a new city go from 1 person to 10, 100, then 1,000, and 10,000 and beyond? This is a problem tech companies have been facing for over a quarter century now to get their digital communities to grow. We can learn a lot from them.</p><h1>The Cold Start Problem in Tech Marketplaces</h1><p>Imagine that Uber has just arrived in your city. You download the app, open it and see no drivers available, so you close it and never open it again. If you&#8217;re a potential driver, the same thing happens: You open the app, get barely one or two rides per week, realize this isn&#8217;t worth your time and close the app forever.</p><p>Uber is a marketplace where supply (drivers) and demand (riders) meet, but they need a critical mass to be viable: Enough drivers must know there will be riders available, and vice-versa. Without critical mass, there are no network effects, and the marketplace dies.</p><p>So instead, Uber doesn&#8217;t start by operating everywhere. It specifically launches in every city, one by one. But the launch isn&#8217;t limited to a simple announcement. If it was, Uber would get a few drivers and riders on launch day, but not enough to make it profitable for drivers and valuable for riders, and it would die out.</p><p>That&#8217;s why an Uber launch in a new city is a much bigger deal: For weeks or months in advance, it recruits drivers and pays them, whether they get rides or not, just for being available. That way, there will be enough drivers on launch day for an amazing experience and riders will come back again in the future. Meanwhile, drivers need enough riders on launch day to know this will be a viable business for them, so Uber creates a big launch campaign to raise rider awareness, including discounts to lure riders to try the service.</p><p>This model is effective in all network effects businesses. When Bank of America launched credit cards, it didn&#8217;t do it nationally, because not enough people would have them, and not enough businesses would accept them. So instead they launched in Fresno, California, because 45% of families already banked with them. It provided the devices to read the credit cards to businesses, and it mailed 60,000 unrequested cards at once to its customers.</p><p>Tinder launched at the University of Southern California and then repeated its playbook campus by campus. Facebook launched at Harvard. Once everybody used it there, people in other Ivy League universities wanted in. Once the Ivy League was conquered, students from other universities wanted in, too. Then, high school students wanted access. Once they had it, their parents wanted it, too.</p><p>You can see the logic here: Take one vertical and saturate it, before moving on to the next. Because a network is never completely homogeneous: It has subnetworks that are much more tightly connected than others. Tackle these, and the subnetwork (&#8220;vertical&#8221;) will join, see plenty of value, and then move on to adjacent verticals.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mWeX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d082455-b7bf-431f-849d-430197f7bc46_1024x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mWeX!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d082455-b7bf-431f-849d-430197f7bc46_1024x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mWeX!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d082455-b7bf-431f-849d-430197f7bc46_1024x1024.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mWeX!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d082455-b7bf-431f-849d-430197f7bc46_1024x1024.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mWeX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d082455-b7bf-431f-849d-430197f7bc46_1024x1024.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mWeX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d082455-b7bf-431f-849d-430197f7bc46_1024x1024.png" width="1024" height="1024" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0d082455-b7bf-431f-849d-430197f7bc46_1024x1024.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1024,&quot;width&quot;:1024,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mWeX!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d082455-b7bf-431f-849d-430197f7bc46_1024x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mWeX!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d082455-b7bf-431f-849d-430197f7bc46_1024x1024.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mWeX!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d082455-b7bf-431f-849d-430197f7bc46_1024x1024.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mWeX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d082455-b7bf-431f-849d-430197f7bc46_1024x1024.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Social networks have sub-social networks. Instead of tackling the entire network, tackle sub-networks and try to get them all onto your platform. For that, try to tackle the most important nodes in a network. <a href="https://griffsgraphs.wordpress.com/2012/07/02/a-facebook-network/">Source</a>.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Depending on the industry, you might have to focus on the supply side, the demand side, or both. Uber focuses on getting supply (drivers) ready for when demand hits on launch day. OpenTable also focused on the supply side by making software for restaurants to manage their tables and reservations. Once they had lots of restaurant tables on their platform, they opened up to diner reservations over the Internet. LinkedIn did the opposite: By gathering online resumes, they had lots of demand for jobs that became very valuable for recruiters (suppliers of jobs), who joined later.</p><p>What are the equivalents for new communities and cities? What are the verticals, the supply and demand? What tactics from tech marketplaces can we apply to cities?</p><h1>Customer Segments: Who Can Early Cities Cater To?</h1><p>There are three obvious segments, but none are straightforward.</p><h3>Young People</h3><p>Trying to attract young people sounds like a great idea: They don&#8217;t have dependents, can travel solo, they take more risks&#8230; If you target the rugged, adventurous, idealistic type, they might be willing to make do with minimal housing options and few amenities. But what, exactly, do you give them that they can&#8217;t find elsewhere? What&#8217;s the benefit of moving?</p><p>Because the costs are clear: Young people need jobs, and to progress they need to learn from experts who work alongside them. Neither are available in small towns.</p><p>Also, young people tend to not have a romantic partner&#8212;especially the more adventurous types who might be willing to move. Unfortunately, early cities don&#8217;t have many people, so their dating pools are shallow.</p><p>On top of that, these people are not the richest, so you have to keep your costs as small as possible, including your Customer Acquisition Cost (CAC). You can&#8217;t spend that much on marketing.</p><h3>Families</h3><p>The parents in a family no longer need a deep dating pool, and they tend to be more professionally settled. They might have a remote job that pays well, but still, a good job opportunity would definitely be welcome for most.</p><p>But children need schools, which require many families to be viable. Children also need doctors, and a hospital not too far away. And <strong>both</strong> parents need a remote job, which is much less common than a single one.</p><h3>Retirees</h3><p>Retirees don&#8217;t need a job, a school, or (usually) a dating pool. But they care a lot about healthcare, an airport to see the family and travel, and a community and amenities so as not to be bored to death. Examples of this include Florida in the US or Portugal and the Spanish Mediterranean coast.</p><p>Based on this, to create your city you need (depending on the segments you focus on):</p><ul><li><p>For all: a strong reason to come (something that&#8217;s unavailable to you where you live), and some basics (utilities, a nearby airport, etc.)</p></li><li><p>For workers of all ages:</p><ul><li><p>Some way to attract jobs</p></li><li><p>A dating pool</p></li></ul></li><li><p>For families: school options</p></li><li><p>For retirees and families: great healthcare</p></li></ul><h1>Demand: Attract &amp; Settle Nomads</h1><p>The first people you attract must be digital nomads, people who can easily work remotely and already have a job, because as we&#8217;ve seen, it&#8217;s near impossible to get jobs upfront: They require network effects, and there aren&#8217;t any when there&#8217;s nobody in a new city.</p><p>Thanks to the Internet and AI, <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/remote-work-is-inexorable">remote work</a> is <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-fight-for-the-remote-worker">now</a> <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/cities-are-blurring">common</a>. Many take advantage of that to move around the world, from Lisbon to Bali, Buenos Aires, Dubai, or Bangkok. That gets lonely fast, though: They often don&#8217;t stay in one place long enough to form local bonds, and other digital nomads are moving constantly, too, so they don&#8217;t form dependable friendships. On average, people are nomads for a couple of years before they settle. This is where new cities can help: By settling nomads, they can facilitate long-lasting friendships that are rare elsewhere.</p><p>But few people decide to join a community they don&#8217;t know, in a place they&#8217;ve never been.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> They visit a place for a weekend maybe, meet a lot of people, get to know some and really hit it off with a few. They then come back again and maybe this time they stay for a longer period of time&#8212;maybe a few weeks or months. Finally, once they feel comfortable with the place and the people there, they move in for a few years. 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>In tech, this is called a funnel: Like in one, at the top you have lots of people, but then the amount shrinks and shrinks.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Each step in the funnel must be optimized.</p><h3>Short Term: Events</h3><p>One idea city founders float is to start cities from festivals: Get 5,000 people to come to your, say, music festival, and some of them will stay. Year over year, more and more people will stay, until a city is born.</p><p>I don&#8217;t buy this. Who goes to a festival and wants to stay there forever, once the music, the people, and the vibe is gone, and all that&#8217;s left is to clean up the mess with a thin crew?</p><p>Also, people know festivals are not the real world. You don&#8217;t go live in a place where you just have fun.</p><p>A festival can provide a taste of a place, though. If the infrastructure is solid, nomads might want more. And that&#8217;s the point of events.</p><p>If you don&#8217;t know about a new city, but you want to go to a special festival, you might discover the city in passing, and realize &#8220;<em>This is not bad at all!&#8221;</em> In marketing, that&#8217;s what&#8217;s called the awareness stage.</p><p>If you already know about the place, you might be thinking of an excuse to go there, and an event might be the perfect excuse.</p><p>It doesn&#8217;t need to be only festivals. Conferences gather like-minded people around a topic of common interest. But what do you make conferences about? The concept of new cities and states is one topic (which Network School uses for its annual <a href="https://ns.com/conference">Network States conference</a>), but not every new city can do that. At some point, you have to do industry-specific conferences, but what legitimacy do you have for that? This goes back to the problem of jobs, which we&#8217;ll cover later.</p><p>Whether you do festivals, conferences, or other events, making the entire experience amazing is important, but the most important moments are the first one, the last one, and a peak experience. So the arrival at the airport, the ride in, the entrance to the venue, are all important. Same thing when leaving. And throughout the event, some magical moment(s) must be designed so that when the person goes back and reminisces about the trip, an indelible image remains.</p><h3>Medium Term</h3><p>Popup cities try to solve this: For a few months at a time, organizers propose that digital nomads live in an off-season resort with hackathons, speeches, workshops, and other social events, which help people get to know each other, form friendships, social groups&#8230; The first one, <a href="https://www.palladiummag.com/2023/10/06/why-i-built-zuzalu/">Zuzalu</a>, was in 2023, and since then, the idea has expanded. <a href="https://www.edgecity.live/">Edge City</a> has organized eight villages across four continents with over 12,000 participants in total.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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Once your group of people who want to live together is big enough, the logical next step is for all to settle somewhere specific.</p><p>This strategy has at least four benefits:</p><ol><li><p>It targets the most mobile people already, digital nomads who are very flexible on where to live.</p></li><li><p>It&#8217;s much easier to attract a person to a conference or short-term event than to make them commit long-term to a specific spot.</p></li><li><p>With each new popup city, people make new connections, their circle of friends increases, and they&#8217;re more likely to want to live with them somewhere long term.</p></li><li><p>It&#8217;s also much easier for organizers: There&#8217;s much less work and commitment in terms of real estate, regulatory rights, paperwork, utilities, etc.</p></li></ol><p>When I last talked with Edge City co-founder <a href="https://x.com/timourxyz">Timour Kosters</a>, he was wondering if the next step could be buying out an abandoned university campus to provide a full-time base for the community.</p><p>There are other ways to get people to explore a new city for a few weeks. For example, Daniel Thompson and his <a href="https://www.noma-collective.com/">Numa Collective</a> is organizing a month-long summer camp and event for families in the Honduran city of Pr&#243;spera.</p><h3>Longer Term</h3><p>One of the most successful new communities is <a href="https://x.com/balajis?lang=en">Balaji Srinivasan</a>&#8217;s <a href="https://ns.com/">Network School</a>. I&#8217;ll write a full article on this, but here&#8217;s the short version. In 2024, he took over an entire hotel in a Chinese development in Malaysia, 45 minutes away from Singapore, and presented it as a fixed place for nomads to spend a few months at a time. The price includes a room, cleaning, food, coworking space, Internet, community events, workshops, gym... All in a safe, tropical, walkable space.</p><p>In other words, what you&#8217;re getting in a place like this is the college experience after college. This is clever: College years are some of the most fun for most people. Extending them or reviving them is very cool.</p><p>Thanks to Balaji&#8217;s popularity, enough people came and formed friendships that there was demand for long-term stays (one year or more). Now, Network School has had thousands of visitors, some of whom have become full-time residents.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vz3k!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5e97ceae-e7c6-4c29-a209-3865b066cdb8_1600x898.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vz3k!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5e97ceae-e7c6-4c29-a209-3865b066cdb8_1600x898.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vz3k!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5e97ceae-e7c6-4c29-a209-3865b066cdb8_1600x898.png 848w, 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I know both personally, and they&#8217;re both amazing. </em></figcaption></figure></div><p>His popularity still helps raise awareness of his Network School and convert doubters, but the bigger NS is, the more his personal popularity will have been tapped, and the less it will influence people to move. NS has already transcended him, it doesn&#8217;t rely on him anymore, and is growing. Good for them, because that requires a transformation: What works early on doesn&#8217;t as a city grows, because the early adopters are unlike those coming after.</p><h3>Crossing the Chasm</h3><p>In his book <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_the_Chasm">Crossing the Chasm</a></em>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_Moore">Geoffrey Moore</a> explains how early products don&#8217;t cut it for most people. If you&#8217;re an innovator or an early adopter, you love new stuff and are willing to try it. But for the vast majority of people, that&#8217;s not true.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yfs_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43117a5a-84ee-42ac-bec9-867238d9f330_1280x960.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yfs_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43117a5a-84ee-42ac-bec9-867238d9f330_1280x960.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yfs_!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43117a5a-84ee-42ac-bec9-867238d9f330_1280x960.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yfs_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43117a5a-84ee-42ac-bec9-867238d9f330_1280x960.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yfs_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43117a5a-84ee-42ac-bec9-867238d9f330_1280x960.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yfs_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43117a5a-84ee-42ac-bec9-867238d9f330_1280x960.png" width="1280" height="960" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/43117a5a-84ee-42ac-bec9-867238d9f330_1280x960.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:960,&quot;width&quot;:1280,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yfs_!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43117a5a-84ee-42ac-bec9-867238d9f330_1280x960.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yfs_!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43117a5a-84ee-42ac-bec9-867238d9f330_1280x960.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yfs_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43117a5a-84ee-42ac-bec9-867238d9f330_1280x960.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yfs_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43117a5a-84ee-42ac-bec9-867238d9f330_1280x960.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Pragmatists are less moved by a vision or adventure, and much more interested in cold pros and cons. This is true for all products: Early adopters will tinker with things that are broken but show potential, but for the vast majority to adopt them, their kinks need to be ironed out until they&#8217;re easy to use.</p><p>So even if it&#8217;s hard to get a community to a few hundred people, the step after is equally hard, just for different reasons! Now, some of the biggest advantages of the early community (cheap real estate, strong community) get diluted, while the network effects of amenities, jobs, and microcommunities are not yet kicking in.</p><p>I think the answer is that these cities/jurisdictions need to make sure crime remains zero, while investing heavily in amenities, healthcare and education. These are a matter of money, and although you might not be able to make them profitable early on, they will make pragmatists cross the chasm.</p><p>OK we&#8217;re done looking at the demand side. You can see it&#8217;s very hard to get it off the ground without the other side of the marketplace: the supply of jobs.</p><h1>Supply: Jobs</h1><p>Nomads (single and coupled) can only get a new city so far, and even they want their industries to be represented where they live. So there&#8217;s just no way around needing to attract businesses to your city.</p><p>But companies are usually happy where they already are. They have employees, and they tend to be in big cities where they enjoy network effects. What kind of industry (vertical) would be willing to relinquish the value of its current location to move to an empty one where they can&#8217;t hire anybody? What kind of unique asset can a new city provide?</p><p>Regulatory arbitrage.</p><p>What&#8217;s the one human decision that frequently prevents companies from growing to their full potential? Overregulation. Don&#8217;t get me wrong: Some regulation is good. But the entire reason we want new cities in the first place is because the existing regulatory burden is way too high, supported by entrenched interests, and nearly impossible to eliminate. New jurisdictions&#8217; raison d&#8217;&#234;tre to form is to fight overregulation.</p><p>So which industries suffer the most from regulation?<br>Real estate, finance, and healthcare.</p><h3>Real Estate</h3><p>We talked about real estate: Overregulation is what makes it expensive in many cities; killing regulation is one of the biggest assets of any new jurisdiction.</p><h3>Finance</h3><p>Overregulated finance is the very reason for the existence of Bitcoin, cryptocurrencies, DeFi (decentralized finance), blockchain, and all these new financial technologies. It wants a libertarian world where big states and financial institutions can&#8217;t dictate who has access to money and who doesn&#8217;t, where banks can&#8217;t profiteer from their power, where they&#8217;re too big to fail, where states overtax their citizens. This is why the crypto movement is extremely aligned with the development of new jurisdictions: All the people who believe this and make a living off of it want new places where they can be free. When you travel to these places, there&#8217;s always a strong community of people working in crypto, payments can always be made in cryptocurrencies, whether international ones like Bitcoin, or the local one.</p><p>But finance has two problems. First, finance is not just regulated at the national level, but at the global level. Anti-money-laundering institutions and regulations are active enemies of decentralized finance, because they see its anonymity as the shadow criminals yearn. Any banking service that is tied to the global financial system must abide by its rules, so innovating on rules is not as beneficial.</p><p>The second problem is that it&#8217;s hard to keep the crypto tribe in one place. Crypto doesn&#8217;t want boundaries. By definition crypto workers are mobile, international. And since they&#8217;re so aligned with the concept of new cities, many new jurisdictions try to cater to them, so there&#8217;s lots of competition for these highly mobile people. Hard to rely on finance as an industry to jump-start the supply side.</p><h3>Healthcare</h3><p>Healthcare is different, though. Drug companies and hospitals are not especially libertarian or excited about new jurisdictions. They just want regulation to be reasonable, and they can&#8217;t get that where they are. This adds billions of dollars to their business costs&#8212;so much so that it&#8217;s simply financially impossible to develop new drugs.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OhL-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0df0be5-f6aa-4ac4-b9c0-dbc0882ca1e0_959x579.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OhL-!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0df0be5-f6aa-4ac4-b9c0-dbc0882ca1e0_959x579.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>From <a href="https://x.com/cremieuxrecueil">Cr&#233;mieux</a></em> </figcaption></figure></div><p>As a result, other countries like China, with much better regulation, are taking over in drug production.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UaGK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda4e4116-4f45-43c5-971a-c7079d98d3e2_763x427.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UaGK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda4e4116-4f45-43c5-971a-c7079d98d3e2_763x427.png 424w, 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Top left: The view from the hills in the middle of the island to Las Verandas, in Pr&#243;spera, and the coral reef just beyond. Top right: the Duna building in Pr&#243;spera. Bottom left: a view towards the sea. Bottom middle: One of the infinity pools in Las Verandas. Bottom right: the Dome, where the last conference was held. Here, with Niklas Anzinger and Tim Urban, the super cool creator behind Wait but Why, who is somehow even cooler in person than in writing.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Niklas realized that the US&#8217;s healthcare regulations are irrationally tight, so he figured out a much more reasonable set of regulations that allows Western drug companies and hospitals to do things there that they can&#8217;t do back at home.</p><p>To give you a couple of examples, an easy one to understand is drug repurposing: Many drugs are already approved, which means we know they&#8217;re safe to take. And sometimes, we discover new uses (&#8220;indications&#8221;) for them. Eg, GLP-1s were diabetes drugs that became weight loss drugs. But it&#8217;s hard and expensive to repurpose drugs for new indications. This makes no sense! We already know they&#8217;re safe (from the previous clinical trials), and we have data on their performance <a href="https://www.roche.com/stories/phase-4-clinical-trials">in real life</a>, since we track their side-effects. Do we really need the hundreds of millions it would take for a perfect new clinical trial? <em>Every time?</em></p><p>Another example: Aging is not a disease in the US, so you can&#8217;t test drugs to treat it, or make anti-aging claims about medications. You can test drugs against aging in Pr&#243;spera.</p><p>Real Estate, Finance, and Healthcare are three examples, but any industry that has too much regulation is a good target for SEZs like Pr&#243;spera. The more money that is at stake, the bigger the regulation arbitrage, and the easier it is to exploit it abroad, the more likely an SEZ is to attract companies from a new industry, kicking off the supply side of city marketplaces (jobs), attracting workers to take these jobs, and kick-starting the flywheel of a new city.</p><h1>Dating Pool</h1><p>Of course, the other relevant marketplace early on in these places is dating. This is not relevant for married couples, but hyper relevant for single nomads.</p><p>Early on, the biggest issue is that these new cities, being new and riskier than established cities, tend to attract a higher share of men than women. From my conversations, this ranges between 60% and 80% of men when these cities have just a few hundred people.</p><p>This is bad for most people:</p><ul><li><p>There are not enough women, so many men remain single.</p></li><li><p>Most women prefer not to be in such a minority. They prefer a stronger female community for friendship and support.</p></li></ul><p>As such, early cities would benefit from programs targeted specifically to attracting women. This should be easy.</p><p>Another asset is that, in my experience, many men in these places are young, ambitious, adventurous, hard-working, fit, and intelligent. Women who might be looking for a life adventure and might also be interested in such men would benefit from visiting these places.</p><p>If you think this is secondary, you should read this article:</p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;77bb7856-c0fe-478b-9f71-ec4cb465ae52&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;Why is French only spoken in Qu&#233;bec, and not all of Canada? Why not in all of North America?&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:&quot;Read full story&quot;,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;lg&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Why Doesn't North America Speak French?&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:5362415,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Tomas Pueyo&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:&quot;Understand the biggest problems and how to solve them: AI; automation; GeoHistory; the future of education, healthcare, violence, nation-states, communities, energy, transportation, and more&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F32cecf91-f0da-4d20-b82f-c9e8ae5e0d89_1600x1600.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:1000}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2025-05-26T14:02:16.255Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5EMj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff9f344bf-40bd-4562-8002-edfcfc8ff48b_1393x1600.png&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/why-doesnt-north-america-speak-french&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:164478830,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:122,&quot;comment_count&quot;:21,&quot;publication_id&quot;:347533,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Uncharted Territories&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4QUy!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc92decb6-7c5c-4053-bc05-651e5548e9b3_1280x1280.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><p>In it, I explain that this gender imbalance is the reason North America speaks English and not French. The French side in Canada attracted male nomads, because fur trading was amenable to this type of worker since trappers had to travel a lot, hunt, deal with natives, fight&#8230; The English side had a good climate for agriculture, which is settled, and more conducive to forming families. This meant there was a population explosion in the British Colonies in Canada while the French side remained underpopulated, and when they went to war, the British outnumbered the French.</p><p>I&#8217;ve talked with several leaders in the field and they&#8217;re understandably wary of intentionally attracting women to their cities, but personally, I think it&#8217;s quite natural, logical, and moral. They should do it!</p><p>OK, so far we&#8217;ve discussed how to accelerate the progress from 1 to 10 to 100 to 1,000 to 10,000 people. But wouldn&#8217;t it be cool to bypass all this work and shoot straight to 10,000 people?</p><h1>Bypassing the Early Stages, Straight to 10,000+ Citizens</h1><p>The best way to short-circuit the chicken-and-egg issue of no people &#8594; no jobs &#8594; no people is to artificially get 10,000+ people or 10,000+ jobs. How can we do this?</p><h3>Satellite Cities</h3><p>I discussed this model in this article.</p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;becee270-6e7b-42f7-9193-1be076f186a8&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;This is the 8th short article of the series Where to Create Ten New Cities in the US.&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:&quot;Read full story&quot;,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;lg&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Ten New US Cities: Satellite Cities&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:5362415,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Tomas Pueyo&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:&quot;Understand the biggest problems and how to solve them: AI; automation; GeoHistory; the future of education, healthcare, violence, nation-states, communities, energy, transportation, and more&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F32cecf91-f0da-4d20-b82f-c9e8ae5e0d89_1600x1600.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:1000}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2025-01-23T13:02:14.408Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40ddb9e3-76e0-410e-9d80-ae727a0369b6_1080x720.gif&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/ten-new-us-cities-satellite-cities&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:155374608,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:50,&quot;comment_count&quot;:5,&quot;publication_id&quot;:347533,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Uncharted Territories&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4QUy!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc92decb6-7c5c-4053-bc05-651e5548e9b3_1280x1280.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><p>A great example is what <a href="https://x.com/jansramek">Jan Sramek</a> is doing in <a href="https://californiaforever.com/">California Forever</a>, a new city between San Francisco and Sacramento, in California. Instead of starting from scratch, Satellite Cities co-opt the people and amenities of a big city nearby. No need for thousands to relocate dramatically across the world, just get them to move a short distance from where they live today. 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>A render of California City</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>In the case of California Forever, they&#8217;re aiming to build a huge industrial park, but with regulations that make it much easier to build industry in California (a state famous for its anti-industrial policies). With its proximity to the San Francisco Bay Area, the hope is that many hardware startups will be inclined to move there, providing the jobs that will attract more people.</p><h3>Anchor Tenants Near Existing Cities</h3><p>You can combine the idea of a satellite city with that of an anchor tenant. A Texan developer <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/ten-new-us-cities-satellite-cities">told me</a> it&#8217;s actually not that hard to get companies to commit to bringing their operations to a new satellite city within the US. These are also perfect ways to kick-start cities, because they concurrently bring hundreds or thousands of jobs, along with the workers, who then need to live in the place. They beget lots of services, sometimes supported by the company (shops, schools, clinics, etc.). You can shortcut the first few orders of magnitude of growth (from 1&#8594;10&#8594;100&#8594;1000 and even &#8594;10,000) with an anchor tenant. You just need a few things:</p><ul><li><p>A city in its close proximity, for amenities and workers</p></li><li><p>Utilities: electricity, water, etc.</p></li><li><p>Legal certainty</p></li></ul><p>This last point turns out to be the hardest. Having the mayor, the board, the opposition, the judges, the state legislature, the country government all aligned to help a new city be born is the scarcest resource. But it&#8217;s doable. This is for example how <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebration,_Florida">Celebration, Florida</a> was born: It was Walt Disney&#8217;s city.</p><h3>Tourism Settlements</h3><p>In the 1970s, the Yucat&#225;n Peninsula was mostly jungle and sand. Then, the government chose a tourism spot there, built infrastructure, and called on hotel chains to establish themselves there. Now, we know the destinations of Canc&#250;n, Playa del Carmen, Cozumel, the Riviera Maya&#8230;</p><p>The Mexican government was visionary in making this area into a tourism destination, but the vision didn&#8217;t extend to governance, so the area suffered from crime, overbuilding, and overdependence on tourism. Maybe a city founder could add regulatory vision, and find a spot that has amazing, underdeveloped beaches that could house great resorts, within a country and region that is open to giving enough governance freedom to an SEZ.</p><p>In other words, the cold start problem can be solved through tourism funding the growth from 1 to 10,000 citizens via hotel resorts: The citizens would be the workers. Once you have that, you can expand to other verticals.</p><p>If you think about it, this is not far from what Forest City was (where Network School lives): A Chinese developer agreed with the Malaysian government to allow a Special Financial Zone and built dozens of beachfront buildings there. The city was meant to host <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_City,_Johor">hundreds of thousands</a> of people, but is currently mostly empty, with only around 9,000 residents. Maybe this was too big, too fast, too exposed to the national risk of both Malaysia and China,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> and not visionary enough on the governance side, but the thinking was directionally correct. We&#8217;ll talk about it more another time.</p><h3>Cruise Cities</h3><p>Remember the idea of birthing cities out of festivals? I don&#8217;t think it can work because one festival a year is not enough to anchor a settlement. But what if there were dozens of festivals per year in the same place? That&#8217;s what cruise companies can do.</p><p>Cruises carry thousands of people from place to place, reliably, week after week, providing customers to local economies. But after some time, these cruise companies have thought: <em>Why would we give up all this reliable business to outside entities</em>? So they&#8217;ve started buying islands (now <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_island#List_of_%22private_islands%22_of_cruise_lines">over a dozen</a>) and creating their own resorts, events and festivals. Vertical integration.</p><p>What if they organized ongoing festivals, so that each one of their cruises could benefit from one? This would increase the revenue per customer. And once they have recurring festivals on land they own, they would need settlements there. From there to cities, there&#8217;s a very small jump. In fact, some cruises <a href="https://aboardtheworld.com/our-story/the-ship/">already operate</a> as <a href="https://edition.cnn.com/travel/what-its-like-on-board-the-world-cruise-ship">small sea settlements</a>. Maybe some could move into land-based settlements. But they&#8217;re not in the business of city founding, they need either visionary leaders or to partner with visionary city founders.</p><p>This reminds me of the early growth of Airbnb: Its founders noticed that during conventions, all hotels were booked and prices were through the roof. Demand was guaranteed, so they focused on events like the Democratic National Convention or Oktoberfest, sending employees to review listings. Each time there was a new event, they added more listings, and more people started using them.</p><h3>Existing Industry with Low Quality of Life</h3><p>While the Honduran SEZ of Pr&#243;spera focuses on real estate, finance, and especially healthcare, the other Honduran SEZ of Ciudad Moraz&#225;n tackled the problem differently.</p><p>The region already has local industry, tied to the neighboring city of <a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choloma">Choloma</a>. But nobody wanted to live there because of the low quality of life, especially due to crime and corruption. So Ciudad Moraz&#225;n took over an area, made a gated community for the workers, took over the local governance and law enforcement, and that was enough to make it a favorite for workers.</p><h1>Putting Everything Together</h1><p>When new cities and jurisdictions are putting together their offering, they&#8217;re basically trying to weigh their competitive advantages between real estate quality &amp; affordability, crime, the feeling of community, jobs, education, healthcare, transportation, utilities, amenities, and dating. They&#8217;re trying to do something like this:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xmWH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ce3fa03-cc4a-40ec-b5ee-74c46c0f7f5e_1600x936.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xmWH!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ce3fa03-cc4a-40ec-b5ee-74c46c0f7f5e_1600x936.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xmWH!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ce3fa03-cc4a-40ec-b5ee-74c46c0f7f5e_1600x936.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xmWH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ce3fa03-cc4a-40ec-b5ee-74c46c0f7f5e_1600x936.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xmWH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ce3fa03-cc4a-40ec-b5ee-74c46c0f7f5e_1600x936.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xmWH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ce3fa03-cc4a-40ec-b5ee-74c46c0f7f5e_1600x936.png" width="1600" height="936" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8ce3fa03-cc4a-40ec-b5ee-74c46c0f7f5e_1600x936.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:936,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xmWH!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ce3fa03-cc4a-40ec-b5ee-74c46c0f7f5e_1600x936.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xmWH!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ce3fa03-cc4a-40ec-b5ee-74c46c0f7f5e_1600x936.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xmWH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ce3fa03-cc4a-40ec-b5ee-74c46c0f7f5e_1600x936.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xmWH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ce3fa03-cc4a-40ec-b5ee-74c46c0f7f5e_1600x936.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Their goal is that the teal assets outperform the red liabilities, so that the city is such a no-brainer that many people want to go.</p><p>Every new jurisdiction is different. In the example above, the value proposition is not strong enough, so people will only trickle in. Conversely, a satellite city with an anchor tenant might look like this:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9G6K!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc460e4fc-1699-488a-b9dd-908b5b1fdb88_1600x529.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9G6K!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc460e4fc-1699-488a-b9dd-908b5b1fdb88_1600x529.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9G6K!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc460e4fc-1699-488a-b9dd-908b5b1fdb88_1600x529.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9G6K!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc460e4fc-1699-488a-b9dd-908b5b1fdb88_1600x529.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9G6K!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc460e4fc-1699-488a-b9dd-908b5b1fdb88_1600x529.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9G6K!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc460e4fc-1699-488a-b9dd-908b5b1fdb88_1600x529.png" width="1600" height="529" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c460e4fc-1699-488a-b9dd-908b5b1fdb88_1600x529.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:529,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9G6K!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc460e4fc-1699-488a-b9dd-908b5b1fdb88_1600x529.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9G6K!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc460e4fc-1699-488a-b9dd-908b5b1fdb88_1600x529.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9G6K!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc460e4fc-1699-488a-b9dd-908b5b1fdb88_1600x529.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9G6K!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc460e4fc-1699-488a-b9dd-908b5b1fdb88_1600x529.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Based on their own estimations, cities can decide to invest more or less on a given thing.</p><p>The more remote and novel the city is, the more these assets or liabilities will stand out from existing cities, creating a starkly differentiated product. But the big thing they&#8217;ll be fighting is the lack of network effects. The best way to solve this problem is bypassing the early stage (e.g., satellite cities, anchor tenants). If they can&#8217;t do that, though, the best strategy is to invest heavily in the other aspects: cheap, great housing, less crime, a community feeling, jobs in some vertical, and compensation for early residents, while they try to mitigate the other issues as much as possible, with schools, sites with good nearby airports, clinics, and the like.</p><div><hr></div><p>When I was last in Pr&#243;spera in March 2026, one of the founders, Erick Brimen, closed <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6JYnlsDOwU">with this video of a Mos Def concert in which Mos Def never appeared</a>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pJPI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf6b317f-719b-4c9c-9756-9067ed9d4a76_1599x899.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source 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Erick didn&#8217;t play it for 10 seconds. He played it for what might have been two minutes, and felt like one hour. Torture.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a></p><p>His message: If you want to create something big, something few have dared to do before, something breaking so much with conventional wisdom, you have to endure dancing alone for a long time before the first few join. But eventually, they do, and it becomes a party.</p><p>May the party come to new cities and jurisdictions. I hope this article will help the current founders and workers to accelerate their growth, and people like you to move there.</p><div><hr></div><p><em>If it does, and you decide to visit Pr&#243;spera or move there, let them know you came from me and you&#8217;ll get 50% off <a href="https://www.prospera.co/en/business">their residency or e-residency</a> program by <a href="http://prospera.co/r/tomas-pueyo">using this link</a>.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;http://prospera.co/r/tomas-pueyo&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;50% off Pr&#243;spera&#8217;s Residency&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="http://prospera.co/r/tomas-pueyo"><span>50% off Pr&#243;spera&#8217;s Residency</span></a></p><p><em>And if this article helped you do your job a bit better, or meaningfully changed how you think about the world, consider subscribing.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p><em>Thanks to Niklas Anzinger (Infinita), Trey Goff, Erick Brimen, Gabriel Delgado (Pr&#243;spera), Balaji Srinivasan, Jackson Steger (Network School), Patri Friedman (Pronomos), Daniel Thompson (Noma Collective), Mark Lutter (Charter Cities Institute), Timour Kosters (Edge City), and the many other city / jurisdiction founders or early workers who have talked with me over the last couple of years and / or have read this article to make it better. Of course, thank you Heidi and Shoni for your edits, as always.</em></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>It turns out no country claims Liberland, a tiny corner between Croatia and Serbia, because of obscure <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-river-dispute-that-nearly-killed">laws about rivers defining country borders</a>. The Danube riverbank has shifted since the boundary was set in the 19<sup>th</sup> Century, and both countries claim the bigger pieces of land.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>If you have W workers and F firms, the potential matches &#8776; W&#215;F. If both scale with city size N, then matches scale roughly like N<sup>2</sup>.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>Although I&#8217;ve been told this has happened in Network School. Crazy! These are true trailblazers. It reminds me of the 1848 Gold Rush, people reading in newspapers of the gold discovered, and booking tickets to go there from across the ocean.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>Or maybe the developer is just thinking on a different timeline than most others and is okay with an empty city for a while. Some could argue that Forest City was never a ghost city but rather a city that just hasn't grown into itself yet.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>The music is still stuck in my head two weeks later.</em></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[What Products Should We Build?]]></title><description><![CDATA[Digital, physical, content, shop... What should we build?]]></description><link>https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/what-products-should-we-build</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/what-products-should-we-build</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomas Pueyo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2026 11:21:17 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DQHq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e2c23a6-7c18-450e-8907-1d92dacd7dec_600x324.gif" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-ai-will-change-media">the previous article</a>, we explored what good content will look like in a world of AI: insightful, entertaining, truthful, unbiased, honest, authentic, personalized, at scale. But how can we achieve that? What products should Uncharted Territories create?</p><p>Today, I&#8217;ll share some ideas I&#8217;d like to make real, in this order:</p><ol><li><p>Real-life experiences</p></li><li><p>More content</p></li><li><p>Physical products</p></li><li><p>And the one that rides the AI wave the most, digital products.</p></li></ol><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>If you&#8217;d like to see these things become a reality, become a paid member to finance them!</em></p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>And if you want to be part of the team that brings them to life, apply here. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://hiring-landing-page-plum.vercel.app/&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Apply or Invest&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://hiring-landing-page-plum.vercel.app/"><span>Apply or Invest</span></a></p><p><em>After many of you asked, I added an <a href="https://hiring-landing-page-plum.vercel.app/invest.html">investment option</a>.</em></p><h1>1. Real-Life Experiences</h1><p>Media companies are well positioned to organize real life experiences, from conferences to dinners in different cities to trips to company visits&#8230; Which ones would you like to see? What would an Uncharted Territories conference look like?</p><p>Here are some of my more out-of-the box ideas.</p><h3>Museums</h3><p>I would love to create an Uncharted Territories museum. Imagine that you could shape sand to create landscapes like here:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DQHq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e2c23a6-7c18-450e-8907-1d92dacd7dec_600x324.gif" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DQHq!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e2c23a6-7c18-450e-8907-1d92dacd7dec_600x324.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DQHq!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e2c23a6-7c18-450e-8907-1d92dacd7dec_600x324.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DQHq!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e2c23a6-7c18-450e-8907-1d92dacd7dec_600x324.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DQHq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e2c23a6-7c18-450e-8907-1d92dacd7dec_600x324.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DQHq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e2c23a6-7c18-450e-8907-1d92dacd7dec_600x324.gif" width="600" height="324" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/1e2c23a6-7c18-450e-8907-1d92dacd7dec_600x324.gif&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:324,&quot;width&quot;:600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:3099718,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/gif&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/i/193333045?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e2c23a6-7c18-450e-8907-1d92dacd7dec_600x324.gif&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DQHq!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e2c23a6-7c18-450e-8907-1d92dacd7dec_600x324.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DQHq!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e2c23a6-7c18-450e-8907-1d92dacd7dec_600x324.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DQHq!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e2c23a6-7c18-450e-8907-1d92dacd7dec_600x324.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DQHq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e2c23a6-7c18-450e-8907-1d92dacd7dec_600x324.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>But what if, as you created the sand, you saw civilizations emerge in valleys? Forests in the right climates, cut down for agricultural land, cities appearing at the confluence of rivers, trade posts at their mouths, nomadic tribes in pasture land&#8230; You wouldn&#8217;t just shape topography, you would understand the deep geographic mechanisms behind history in an intuitive way.</p><h3>Historical Site Visits</h3><p>Have you ever visited a historical site, but failed to understand why it was built, why there, how it was used, what type of fascinating stories had unfolded there&#8230;?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5Otq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F07ff0967-58f8-4641-b451-f40d1f79840f_900x600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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I also didn&#8217;t realize one of the most important Spanish kings, Felipe II, got married here.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Imagine that, instead of being dropped in these sites clueless, you put some AR glasses on and you could witness first hand some of the most interesting historical moments of the sites&#8212;some that explained not just the history, but also why the sites were the way they were? Imagine if you could influence these events like a videogame player?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!INIA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F844fa58a-eaa4-4afb-8b1f-2820677a891c_520x275.gif" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!INIA!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F844fa58a-eaa4-4afb-8b1f-2820677a891c_520x275.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!INIA!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F844fa58a-eaa4-4afb-8b1f-2820677a891c_520x275.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!INIA!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F844fa58a-eaa4-4afb-8b1f-2820677a891c_520x275.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!INIA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F844fa58a-eaa4-4afb-8b1f-2820677a891c_520x275.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!INIA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F844fa58a-eaa4-4afb-8b1f-2820677a891c_520x275.gif" width="642" height="339.5192307692308" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>What if you could play a role in history?</em></figcaption></figure></div><h3>Education</h3><p>Many of you write to tell me how useful my articles have been for studying history and geography classes. I&#8217;m not surprised: I loved the topics at school, but I found them superficial and disconnected. I didn&#8217;t want to know the facts, I wanted to understand <em>why</em>.</p><p>We now have enough content to formalize this. What would new curricula look like if they were designed by Uncharted Territories?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8q_m!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F201e56cf-1171-481f-8c95-dded7335a453_1600x1362.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8q_m!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F201e56cf-1171-481f-8c95-dded7335a453_1600x1362.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8q_m!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F201e56cf-1171-481f-8c95-dded7335a453_1600x1362.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8q_m!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F201e56cf-1171-481f-8c95-dded7335a453_1600x1362.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8q_m!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F201e56cf-1171-481f-8c95-dded7335a453_1600x1362.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8q_m!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F201e56cf-1171-481f-8c95-dded7335a453_1600x1362.png" width="1600" height="1362" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/201e56cf-1171-481f-8c95-dded7335a453_1600x1362.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1362,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8q_m!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F201e56cf-1171-481f-8c95-dded7335a453_1600x1362.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8q_m!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F201e56cf-1171-481f-8c95-dded7335a453_1600x1362.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8q_m!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F201e56cf-1171-481f-8c95-dded7335a453_1600x1362.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8q_m!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F201e56cf-1171-481f-8c95-dded7335a453_1600x1362.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h1>More Content</h1><h3>Books</h3><p>Uncharted Territories has lots of content that could already be packaged into books. Should we get them done?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i14e!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a395ecd-b253-44c5-8214-bb5e178482a2_1600x819.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i14e!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a395ecd-b253-44c5-8214-bb5e178482a2_1600x819.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i14e!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a395ecd-b253-44c5-8214-bb5e178482a2_1600x819.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i14e!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a395ecd-b253-44c5-8214-bb5e178482a2_1600x819.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i14e!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a395ecd-b253-44c5-8214-bb5e178482a2_1600x819.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i14e!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a395ecd-b253-44c5-8214-bb5e178482a2_1600x819.png" width="1600" height="819" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/1a395ecd-b253-44c5-8214-bb5e178482a2_1600x819.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:819,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i14e!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a395ecd-b253-44c5-8214-bb5e178482a2_1600x819.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i14e!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a395ecd-b253-44c5-8214-bb5e178482a2_1600x819.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i14e!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a395ecd-b253-44c5-8214-bb5e178482a2_1600x819.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i14e!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a395ecd-b253-44c5-8214-bb5e178482a2_1600x819.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Two examples of many. GeoHistory would be a Big History book &#224; la Gun, Germs and Steel, that explains all the ways in which geography influenced history. 100 Billion Humans is about how the Earth has capacity for many more people than we imagine. There are more, like History Moves to the Cloud, about how technology determines political structures, and how that suggests what will happen to nation-states in the coming decades.</em></figcaption></figure></div><h3>YouTube</h3><p>My <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zouim_b9EVg">1<sup>st</sup> serious video</a> got 8,000 views. The <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RSPgIcnRN0">2<sup>nd</sup> one</a> got 2,000,000. There&#8217;s clearly potential in a YouTube channel!</p><h3>Series</h3><p>There&#8217;s actually very little amazing streaming content about geography. Look at what&#8217;s on Netflix for example:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rRZE!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d564cd6-a8e6-45e5-83a1-97dad61459ab_1600x787.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rRZE!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d564cd6-a8e6-45e5-83a1-97dad61459ab_1600x787.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rRZE!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d564cd6-a8e6-45e5-83a1-97dad61459ab_1600x787.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rRZE!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d564cd6-a8e6-45e5-83a1-97dad61459ab_1600x787.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rRZE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d564cd6-a8e6-45e5-83a1-97dad61459ab_1600x787.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rRZE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d564cd6-a8e6-45e5-83a1-97dad61459ab_1600x787.png" width="1600" height="787" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2d564cd6-a8e6-45e5-83a1-97dad61459ab_1600x787.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:787,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rRZE!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d564cd6-a8e6-45e5-83a1-97dad61459ab_1600x787.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rRZE!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d564cd6-a8e6-45e5-83a1-97dad61459ab_1600x787.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rRZE!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d564cd6-a8e6-45e5-83a1-97dad61459ab_1600x787.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rRZE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d564cd6-a8e6-45e5-83a1-97dad61459ab_1600x787.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Geography is either history or nature! Could we make a GeoHistory show for Netflix?</p><p>Along those lines, there&#8217;s <a href="https://futurevisionxprize.com/">a new XPRize</a> for the best techno-optimistic near-term sci-fi video project. UT is all about that, and although I&#8217;ve never written fiction, I&#8217;ve <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUT6GQveD0E">studied</a> <a href="https://www.amazon.es/Star-Wars-Rings-Hidden-Structure/dp/1974436586">it</a> <a href="https://maven.com/tomas-pueyo-uncharted-territories/business-communication-storytelling">deeply</a>. Should we present a candidate?</p><h3>Short-Form Video</h3><p>I&#8217;ve posted maybe a couple of dozen Instagram Reels, and without really trying, a couple of them went viral. My guess is I could have millions, or even billions of views per month, by creating many more short videos, making variants, using AI, and cross-posting them across social networks.</p><h3>Podcast</h3><p>Right now, you can&#8217;t easily listen to my articles. You have to go to the Substack mobile app, where a canned voice reads them to you. What if they were better narrated? Available anywhere&#8212;Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, etc? What if they were converted into an interesting conversation, like those made by <a href="https://notebooklm.google.com/">NotebookLM</a>?</p><p>What if I started interviewing interesting people? There are only very few deep interviewers, like Tyler Cowen or Dwarkesh Patel. Should I do this? It would need a production team: research, outreach, editing, posting&#8230;</p><h3>Courses</h3><p>If the goal is to help people make better decisions, courses become an obvious next step. They can be asynchronous or cohort-based. AI tools will help them scale tremendously, as the biggest challenge today is that the time of the creator is finite, but the value they provide is much higher than what their employees do (so you don&#8217;t want to be coached by one of their employees, but it might be good enough to be coached by their AI version). This is especially sensible for Uncharted Territories as I already have a successful course, which I just couldn&#8217;t push more because it was taking too much of my time, especially giving feedback to customers on their pieces of communication.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xGOZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c5582aa-1703-4ed9-bbce-4124c4d0fe32_1600x1073.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xGOZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c5582aa-1703-4ed9-bbce-4124c4d0fe32_1600x1073.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xGOZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c5582aa-1703-4ed9-bbce-4124c4d0fe32_1600x1073.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xGOZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c5582aa-1703-4ed9-bbce-4124c4d0fe32_1600x1073.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xGOZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c5582aa-1703-4ed9-bbce-4124c4d0fe32_1600x1073.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xGOZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c5582aa-1703-4ed9-bbce-4124c4d0fe32_1600x1073.png" width="1600" height="1073" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5c5582aa-1703-4ed9-bbce-4124c4d0fe32_1600x1073.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1073,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xGOZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c5582aa-1703-4ed9-bbce-4124c4d0fe32_1600x1073.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xGOZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c5582aa-1703-4ed9-bbce-4124c4d0fe32_1600x1073.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xGOZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c5582aa-1703-4ed9-bbce-4124c4d0fe32_1600x1073.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xGOZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c5582aa-1703-4ed9-bbce-4124c4d0fe32_1600x1073.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>I also had a hard time organizing the study groups. But if I can automate the feedback and the group formation and facilitation, could this course be offered again, fully (or mostly) automated?</p><h1>Physical Products</h1><p>About 40% of the income of the YouTube channel Kurzgesagt (with 25M followers) comes from its store.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qkPs!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8a555495-4db9-4d5f-aa72-3245803a08e5_1600x1231.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qkPs!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8a555495-4db9-4d5f-aa72-3245803a08e5_1600x1231.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qkPs!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8a555495-4db9-4d5f-aa72-3245803a08e5_1600x1231.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qkPs!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8a555495-4db9-4d5f-aa72-3245803a08e5_1600x1231.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qkPs!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8a555495-4db9-4d5f-aa72-3245803a08e5_1600x1231.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qkPs!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8a555495-4db9-4d5f-aa72-3245803a08e5_1600x1231.png" width="1600" height="1231" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8a555495-4db9-4d5f-aa72-3245803a08e5_1600x1231.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1231,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qkPs!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8a555495-4db9-4d5f-aa72-3245803a08e5_1600x1231.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qkPs!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8a555495-4db9-4d5f-aa72-3245803a08e5_1600x1231.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qkPs!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8a555495-4db9-4d5f-aa72-3245803a08e5_1600x1231.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qkPs!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8a555495-4db9-4d5f-aa72-3245803a08e5_1600x1231.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>What would an Uncharted Territories shop look like? What would you like to see there?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oiR-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82be4aad-5f9b-4984-8ec3-95d83bb6e44c_1478x1614.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oiR-!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82be4aad-5f9b-4984-8ec3-95d83bb6e44c_1478x1614.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oiR-!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82be4aad-5f9b-4984-8ec3-95d83bb6e44c_1478x1614.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oiR-!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82be4aad-5f9b-4984-8ec3-95d83bb6e44c_1478x1614.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oiR-!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82be4aad-5f9b-4984-8ec3-95d83bb6e44c_1478x1614.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oiR-!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82be4aad-5f9b-4984-8ec3-95d83bb6e44c_1478x1614.png" width="1478" height="1614" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/82be4aad-5f9b-4984-8ec3-95d83bb6e44c_1478x1614.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1614,&quot;width&quot;:1478,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oiR-!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82be4aad-5f9b-4984-8ec3-95d83bb6e44c_1478x1614.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oiR-!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82be4aad-5f9b-4984-8ec3-95d83bb6e44c_1478x1614.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oiR-!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82be4aad-5f9b-4984-8ec3-95d83bb6e44c_1478x1614.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oiR-!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82be4aad-5f9b-4984-8ec3-95d83bb6e44c_1478x1614.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"></figcaption></figure></div><p>What other physical products could Uncharted Territories create? What would you like to see in the shop?</p><h1>Digital Products</h1><p>I love all the ideas above, but I&#8217;m especially keen on digital products, because these can truly reinvent media from the ground up with AI.</p><h3>Decision-Making</h3><p>Human research and decision-making has hundreds of flaws, as I&#8217;ve outlined <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/debate-is-broken">here</a>: It&#8217;s slow, full of biases, lacks facts, makes wrong assumptions&#8230; AI is much better at all of this, yet it&#8217;s bad at other things: It&#8217;s not succinct, it gets lost, it doesn&#8217;t reason too well, it doesn&#8217;t know what matters&#8230;</p><p>What if we combined both? 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gNhm!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1d8e3ec-bf35-459f-87af-b84e1dd058ae_1600x1070.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gNhm!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1d8e3ec-bf35-459f-87af-b84e1dd058ae_1600x1070.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gNhm!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1d8e3ec-bf35-459f-87af-b84e1dd058ae_1600x1070.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>Picking the Topic / Angle</h3><p>What if we had a tool that scours the Internet to figure out what&#8217;s the most relevant topic right now, and the most interesting angles about it?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QUSB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e2027ae-588c-4705-87cd-78c8fbf30565_1600x1073.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QUSB!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e2027ae-588c-4705-87cd-78c8fbf30565_1600x1073.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QUSB!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e2027ae-588c-4705-87cd-78c8fbf30565_1600x1073.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QUSB!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e2027ae-588c-4705-87cd-78c8fbf30565_1600x1073.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QUSB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e2027ae-588c-4705-87cd-78c8fbf30565_1600x1073.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QUSB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e2027ae-588c-4705-87cd-78c8fbf30565_1600x1073.png" width="1600" height="1073" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QUSB!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e2027ae-588c-4705-87cd-78c8fbf30565_1600x1073.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QUSB!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e2027ae-588c-4705-87cd-78c8fbf30565_1600x1073.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QUSB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e2027ae-588c-4705-87cd-78c8fbf30565_1600x1073.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>What if the Uncharted Territories audience could choose from that what they want to hear about? What if readers could <em>pay</em> for the articles they want to read? Imagine for example a map of the world, and if you want UT to write about a specific country, you can pledge money towards it. The more money is pledged, the more likely the article will be picked next. This allows two things: Satisfy the people who are most interested in a topic, and finance the production of content for all.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ll3T!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd725e00d-e276-47b4-877a-dad32a3e9f6c_1600x913.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ll3T!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd725e00d-e276-47b4-877a-dad32a3e9f6c_1600x913.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ll3T!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd725e00d-e276-47b4-877a-dad32a3e9f6c_1600x913.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ll3T!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd725e00d-e276-47b4-877a-dad32a3e9f6c_1600x913.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ll3T!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd725e00d-e276-47b4-877a-dad32a3e9f6c_1600x913.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ll3T!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd725e00d-e276-47b4-877a-dad32a3e9f6c_1600x913.png" width="1600" height="913" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d725e00d-e276-47b4-877a-dad32a3e9f6c_1600x913.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:913,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ll3T!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd725e00d-e276-47b4-877a-dad32a3e9f6c_1600x913.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ll3T!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd725e00d-e276-47b4-877a-dad32a3e9f6c_1600x913.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ll3T!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd725e00d-e276-47b4-877a-dad32a3e9f6c_1600x913.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ll3T!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd725e00d-e276-47b4-877a-dad32a3e9f6c_1600x913.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>Writing</h3><p>Humans already <a href="https://originality.ai/blog/can-humans-detect-ai-content">can&#8217;t tell</a> if writing comes from an AI, but they tend to <a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4453958">prefer</a> AI writing! And AIs <a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5606570">can copy</a> author styles better than expert human copiers! So, I think AI writing is underused right now, and it will only grow from here. I don&#8217;t use it myself, yet, but should I?</p><p>What if there were some articles that are always written by me (or other humans) but others were written by AI first? For example, should an AI generate a daily summary of the news, based on all the insights and worldview of Uncharted Territories, which I&#8217;d then review, correct, and update before publishing?</p><p>Google made a hybrid between Google Search and social media, called Google Discover.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EfR9!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3736b67-ab10-4c51-b3e7-6f4c702801d6_868x1790.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EfR9!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3736b67-ab10-4c51-b3e7-6f4c702801d6_868x1790.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EfR9!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3736b67-ab10-4c51-b3e7-6f4c702801d6_868x1790.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EfR9!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3736b67-ab10-4c51-b3e7-6f4c702801d6_868x1790.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EfR9!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3736b67-ab10-4c51-b3e7-6f4c702801d6_868x1790.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EfR9!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3736b67-ab10-4c51-b3e7-6f4c702801d6_868x1790.png" width="400" height="824.8847926267281" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f3736b67-ab10-4c51-b3e7-6f4c702801d6_868x1790.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1790,&quot;width&quot;:868,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:400,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EfR9!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3736b67-ab10-4c51-b3e7-6f4c702801d6_868x1790.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EfR9!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3736b67-ab10-4c51-b3e7-6f4c702801d6_868x1790.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EfR9!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3736b67-ab10-4c51-b3e7-6f4c702801d6_868x1790.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EfR9!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3736b67-ab10-4c51-b3e7-6f4c702801d6_868x1790.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>They gather your interests from your searches and serve you articles accordingly. Google does the same thing with the YouTube home page, of course. This product is quite successful, but I think it&#8217;s just an intermediary step to what&#8217;s coming.</p><p>With much more supply of content and a fixed amount of attention, we&#8217;ll need better mechanisms to digest information, like for example LLMs looking at what&#8217;s going on right now in the world and giving you a summary. This is what OpenAI is trying to do with Pulse:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7OPH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F688ac32c-3bb2-48f8-b42c-5567d03e1a91_1600x918.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7OPH!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F688ac32c-3bb2-48f8-b42c-5567d03e1a91_1600x918.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7OPH!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F688ac32c-3bb2-48f8-b42c-5567d03e1a91_1600x918.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7OPH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F688ac32c-3bb2-48f8-b42c-5567d03e1a91_1600x918.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7OPH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F688ac32c-3bb2-48f8-b42c-5567d03e1a91_1600x918.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7OPH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F688ac32c-3bb2-48f8-b42c-5567d03e1a91_1600x918.png" width="1600" height="918" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/688ac32c-3bb2-48f8-b42c-5567d03e1a91_1600x918.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:918,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7OPH!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F688ac32c-3bb2-48f8-b42c-5567d03e1a91_1600x918.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7OPH!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F688ac32c-3bb2-48f8-b42c-5567d03e1a91_1600x918.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7OPH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F688ac32c-3bb2-48f8-b42c-5567d03e1a91_1600x918.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7OPH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F688ac32c-3bb2-48f8-b42c-5567d03e1a91_1600x918.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>It used to just give you three topics of interest every day. For each, it crafted a dedicated article for you. Now, it asks you what you&#8217;re interested in first, and then in the next step it asks to connect to your email (!!) for more info on you. After this, you wait for 30 minutes to get a list of tailored articles. I think this is flawed for many reasons. </em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Can we build something better? A mix of daily news with the ability to dive deeper into any specific area in which AIs and other people collaborate to make sense of the news? Yet another product we could build.</p><h3>Fact-Checking</h3><p>Although AIs make mistakes, these mistake are shrinking.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5pnu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a755250-8b2a-4861-9f3c-42456bc2659d_1280x726.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5pnu!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a755250-8b2a-4861-9f3c-42456bc2659d_1280x726.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5pnu!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a755250-8b2a-4861-9f3c-42456bc2659d_1280x726.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5pnu!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a755250-8b2a-4861-9f3c-42456bc2659d_1280x726.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5pnu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a755250-8b2a-4861-9f3c-42456bc2659d_1280x726.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5pnu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a755250-8b2a-4861-9f3c-42456bc2659d_1280x726.png" width="1280" height="726" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4a755250-8b2a-4861-9f3c-42456bc2659d_1280x726.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:726,&quot;width&quot;:1280,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5pnu!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a755250-8b2a-4861-9f3c-42456bc2659d_1280x726.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5pnu!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a755250-8b2a-4861-9f3c-42456bc2659d_1280x726.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5pnu!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a755250-8b2a-4861-9f3c-42456bc2659d_1280x726.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5pnu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a755250-8b2a-4861-9f3c-42456bc2659d_1280x726.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://www.uxtigers.com/post/ai-hallucinations">Source</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Moreover, I believe agent swarms could already do a better job than humans. Today, some <a href="https://huggingface.co/papers/2511.09030">can already drastically reduce mistakes</a>, down to near zero.</p><p>What if we could highlight any fact and an AI agent swarm could properly fact-check it?</p><h3>Cross-Posting</h3><p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be cool to write an article, and automatically a tool would create versions adapted to all sorts of social media, be it images, carousels, long-form or short-form videos? Some tools already do some of this. Could we have them all in one place?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t06q!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1c2c9355-c055-4e1e-8e75-ef7a538e15ef_1600x914.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t06q!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1c2c9355-c055-4e1e-8e75-ef7a538e15ef_1600x914.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t06q!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1c2c9355-c055-4e1e-8e75-ef7a538e15ef_1600x914.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t06q!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1c2c9355-c055-4e1e-8e75-ef7a538e15ef_1600x914.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t06q!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1c2c9355-c055-4e1e-8e75-ef7a538e15ef_1600x914.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t06q!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1c2c9355-c055-4e1e-8e75-ef7a538e15ef_1600x914.png" width="1600" height="914" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/1c2c9355-c055-4e1e-8e75-ef7a538e15ef_1600x914.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:914,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t06q!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1c2c9355-c055-4e1e-8e75-ef7a538e15ef_1600x914.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t06q!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1c2c9355-c055-4e1e-8e75-ef7a538e15ef_1600x914.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t06q!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1c2c9355-c055-4e1e-8e75-ef7a538e15ef_1600x914.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t06q!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1c2c9355-c055-4e1e-8e75-ef7a538e15ef_1600x914.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>Interactivity</h3><p>The same way content started with text, and then moved to pictures, from there to video, then short vertical video, and now AI-generated content, there will be many other types of content to distribute your ideas. One example is interactivity: If it&#8217;s easy to code new software, why not accompany your pieces of content with custom software that makes you interact with the ideas instead of just consuming them? That would definitely deliver on the personalization <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-ai-will-change-media">we discussed earlier</a>, and if you know you can get interactive content by going directly to a media source, it&#8217;s much more likely to be a go-to source.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rCb1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F465939eb-dbcf-4875-80f0-6ffd14c6a307_436x476.gif" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rCb1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F465939eb-dbcf-4875-80f0-6ffd14c6a307_436x476.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rCb1!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F465939eb-dbcf-4875-80f0-6ffd14c6a307_436x476.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rCb1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F465939eb-dbcf-4875-80f0-6ffd14c6a307_436x476.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rCb1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F465939eb-dbcf-4875-80f0-6ffd14c6a307_436x476.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rCb1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F465939eb-dbcf-4875-80f0-6ffd14c6a307_436x476.gif" width="436" height="476" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/465939eb-dbcf-4875-80f0-6ffd14c6a307_436x476.gif&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:476,&quot;width&quot;:436,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rCb1!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F465939eb-dbcf-4875-80f0-6ffd14c6a307_436x476.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rCb1!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F465939eb-dbcf-4875-80f0-6ffd14c6a307_436x476.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rCb1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F465939eb-dbcf-4875-80f0-6ffd14c6a307_436x476.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rCb1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F465939eb-dbcf-4875-80f0-6ffd14c6a307_436x476.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Bartosz Ciechanowski makes amazing <a href="https://ciechanow.ski/mechanical-watch/">interactive articles</a>, but they&#8217;re very long to make. What if each article had companion software? What would that look like?</em></figcaption></figure></div><h3>Community</h3><p>Decisions are not something we make in a vacuum. Humans discuss ideas, look for allies, coordinate&#8230; We see it in the comments sections of articles, in the way we debate the news at a bar or at the dinner table: Media, and especially the news, are a community thing. But today, the community around the news is crap! Here at Uncharted Territories, it&#8217;s limited to the comments section. Other Substacks have a chat. Other outlets do Slack, a few do meet-ups and conferences&#8230; Is this really the best we can do?</p><p>As AI takes over more parts of our lives, we&#8217;ll increasingly crave hanging out with humans. Media is a natural way to connect. What can we do as media companies to facilitate it?</p><h3>Political Impact</h3><p>So far, the media has limited itself to informing people to help them make decisions. But what if the audience is already convinced and wants to act? The media offers very little support there. It doesn&#8217;t coordinate its audiences to take action. What a missed opportunity! Can you imagine the force they would be if, instead of just frustrating their audiences with insights they can&#8217;t really act on, it gave them the tools to coordinate with other members of the audience to build? To get people elected? To push specific pieces of legislation through?</p><p>Before, this was impossible for the same reason as software in articles was impossible: It took too many people, it was too expensive. 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h1>Sequence</h1><ol><li><p>I plan to build all of this for Uncharted Territories, prioritizing the area that resonates the most with the audience: GeoHistory.</p></li><li><p>From there, I&#8217;ll expand to other topics: AI, Space, Relationships, Society&#8230;</p></li><li><p>Finally, once we&#8217;ve proven that the strategy works for Uncharted Territories and it&#8217;s growing faster than COVID in 2020, we&#8217;ll expand to other creators who have similar goals as ours by helping them succeed like UT.</p></li></ol><h1>Join Me!</h1><p>If you know anybody who&#8217;d be excited to work on this, please share this article with them, <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-ai-will-change-media">the previous one</a>, and more importantly, the <a href="https://hiring-landing-page-plum.vercel.app/">careers page</a>! And if you&#8217;re an investor, I added an option for you <a href="https://hiring-landing-page-plum.vercel.app/invest.html">here</a>.</p><p>Want to take ownership of one of these initiatives, but I don&#8217;t have a position outlined for you? Apply (under the position &#8220;other&#8221;) and explain your project.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://hiring-landing-page-plum.vercel.app/careers.html&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Join the Expedition&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://hiring-landing-page-plum.vercel.app/careers.html"><span>Join the Expedition</span></a></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Work with Me to Change the World of Media with AI]]></title><description><![CDATA[Work with me to make it happen]]></description><link>https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-ai-will-change-media</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-ai-will-change-media</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomas Pueyo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2026 11:06:28 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O-WA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F079014fa-7ec6-4870-aa58-b7f53c3051ba_1600x1153.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AI is about to metamorphose the media. Two worlds might emerge from this: one of slop, psyops, and fake news; another with clear information that leads to positive action.</p><p>I want the second one, and we have a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to make it happen, creating in the process a legendary media company. So I&#8217;m building Uncharted Territories into a media company designed from the ground up with AI. But I can&#8217;t do it alone. If you want to help me build the future of media with AI, join me in working at Uncharted Territories: I&#8217;m hiring people to work on software development, research, video, social media, merchandising, and more.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://hiring-landing-page-plum.vercel.app/&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Work at Uncharted Territories&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://hiring-landing-page-plum.vercel.app/"><span>Work at Uncharted Territories</span></a></p><p>In today&#8217;s article, I&#8217;ll tell you how I think AI will change media, and what we need to do to navigate that.</p><h1>The AI Content Avalanche</h1><p>AI has already overwhelmed us. And it&#8217;s just starting.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wCpj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Febd4bc6b-902c-4b55-99fa-824fbf05e3da_1600x1023.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wCpj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Febd4bc6b-902c-4b55-99fa-824fbf05e3da_1600x1023.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>And <em>Twitter just <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/mar/09/x-suspends-accounts-massive-scale-manipulation-attempts-russia">banned 800 million AI accounts</a>!</em></p><p>Early on, it&#8217;s fun.</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;03fe51ea-ef6d-4c28-b407-ccb7e872f2cf&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>But it&#8217;s already getting stale. Imagine 10x more AI content. 100x. One million times more. As it submerges us and drowns us in an overload of information, fake news, morally bankrupt mass media, biased fact-checkers and shameless influencers, how will we know what is true? What to think? How can we make good decisions in a world like that?</p><h1>Content Quality Before &amp; After</h1><p>This was the quality of media content before the Internet.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KdqK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ba76121-7acf-47d9-9682-95cf4ba708ed_1600x380.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KdqK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ba76121-7acf-47d9-9682-95cf4ba708ed_1600x380.png 424w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KdqK!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ba76121-7acf-47d9-9682-95cf4ba708ed_1600x380.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KdqK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ba76121-7acf-47d9-9682-95cf4ba708ed_1600x380.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KdqK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ba76121-7acf-47d9-9682-95cf4ba708ed_1600x380.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Good journalists&#8212;those we were most exposed to&#8212;were way more intelligent than the average human, and journalistic standards raised the bar further, so that most content was quite good.</p><div 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The newsroom was biased, the news served the interests of those who financed it, and it was limited in creativity to what had been done and what other journos did, among other shortcomings.</p><p>When the Internet appeared, it reduced many of its costs, but it obliterated that of distribution.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sGys!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb5d834c9-daf8-4a8d-a40b-edab598bc66b_1336x1028.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sGys!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb5d834c9-daf8-4a8d-a40b-edab598bc66b_1336x1028.png 424w, 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stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Suddenly, you could post your content on Facebook, YouTube, or Twitter for nothing, and if it was good, it reached lots of people.</p><p>Production shrunk less, but it still came down:</p><ul><li><p>For written content, platforms like social media, blogging, or newsletters made it as easy as in newsrooms</p></li><li><p>For pictures or video content, mobile phones with cameras and simple editing software made it easier than before, but still quite hard to get great content</p></li></ul><p>The result was a massive increase in content:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ffHM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22641430-c68b-47ec-893f-8c7ff84078c4_1600x502.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ffHM!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22641430-c68b-47ec-893f-8c7ff84078c4_1600x502.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ffHM!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22641430-c68b-47ec-893f-8c7ff84078c4_1600x502.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ffHM!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22641430-c68b-47ec-893f-8c7ff84078c4_1600x502.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ffHM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22641430-c68b-47ec-893f-8c7ff84078c4_1600x502.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ffHM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22641430-c68b-47ec-893f-8c7ff84078c4_1600x502.png" width="1600" height="502" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ffHM!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22641430-c68b-47ec-893f-8c7ff84078c4_1600x502.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ffHM!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22641430-c68b-47ec-893f-8c7ff84078c4_1600x502.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ffHM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22641430-c68b-47ec-893f-8c7ff84078c4_1600x502.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Most of which has been crap.</p><p>But there&#8217;s so much of it that some was bound to be amazing. You can see it to the right in this graph, where there is a lot of great Internet-era content, and some even better than what we had before, because it allowed hundreds of millions of people to become creators, and some of them are amazing. They would never have been able to create but for the drop in distribution costs.</p><p>AI drops production costs even further.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZOSm!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F897f72c5-b4c3-4dca-bb6d-2b70dc8bca40_1166x1027.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZOSm!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F897f72c5-b4c3-4dca-bb6d-2b70dc8bca40_1166x1027.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZOSm!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F897f72c5-b4c3-4dca-bb6d-2b70dc8bca40_1166x1027.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZOSm!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F897f72c5-b4c3-4dca-bb6d-2b70dc8bca40_1166x1027.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZOSm!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F897f72c5-b4c3-4dca-bb6d-2b70dc8bca40_1166x1027.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZOSm!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F897f72c5-b4c3-4dca-bb6d-2b70dc8bca40_1166x1027.png" width="518" height="456.24871355060037" 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stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The result is this:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U8Qm!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb9525c9d-d7e0-4379-a2bd-2f1677c0fc4d_1600x1109.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U8Qm!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb9525c9d-d7e0-4379-a2bd-2f1677c0fc4d_1600x1109.png 424w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U8Qm!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb9525c9d-d7e0-4379-a2bd-2f1677c0fc4d_1600x1109.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U8Qm!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb9525c9d-d7e0-4379-a2bd-2f1677c0fc4d_1600x1109.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U8Qm!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb9525c9d-d7e0-4379-a2bd-2f1677c0fc4d_1600x1109.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Even more content.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> Most of it, crap.</p><p>Look at the right, though.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O-WA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F079014fa-7ec6-4870-aa58-b7f53c3051ba_1600x1153.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O-WA!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F079014fa-7ec6-4870-aa58-b7f53c3051ba_1600x1153.png 424w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O-WA!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F079014fa-7ec6-4870-aa58-b7f53c3051ba_1600x1153.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O-WA!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F079014fa-7ec6-4870-aa58-b7f53c3051ba_1600x1153.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O-WA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F079014fa-7ec6-4870-aa58-b7f53c3051ba_1600x1153.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>We&#8217;re approaching a golden era of content. Those who can best merge humans with AI will be able to create magical pieces. What will media companies need to make this amazing content?</p><h1>What Is Quality Content in a World of AI?</h1><p>The first key insight is that as supply explodes, attention is still limited so demand quantity won&#8217;t bulge. This means demand <em>quality</em> will go through the roof. The more content we see, the higher our expectations.</p><p>Anecdotally, I feel it every day in <em>Uncharted Territories</em>: When I compare old posts from five years ago from those of today, it seems to me like the quality jump is insane: So many more insights per article, illustrations, diversity of topics, depth of research&#8230; Mostly thanks to the help of AI. But the audience just gets used to it, it&#8217;s the new normal.</p><p>What will be the new bar? We can get a clue from the Streaming Wars.</p><h3>The Quality of Shows in the Streaming Wars</h3><p>When companies like Netflix, Disney, Apple, and Amazon started spending tens of billions in producing content for their platforms, they created <em>a lot</em> of TV shows.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eH46!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F88e408b5-aee1-4e19-847e-e5b4c1fbd63c_1404x1169.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eH46!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F88e408b5-aee1-4e19-847e-e5b4c1fbd63c_1404x1169.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eH46!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F88e408b5-aee1-4e19-847e-e5b4c1fbd63c_1404x1169.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eH46!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F88e408b5-aee1-4e19-847e-e5b4c1fbd63c_1404x1169.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eH46!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F88e408b5-aee1-4e19-847e-e5b4c1fbd63c_1404x1169.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eH46!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F88e408b5-aee1-4e19-847e-e5b4c1fbd63c_1404x1169.png" width="1404" height="1169" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/88e408b5-aee1-4e19-847e-e5b4c1fbd63c_1404x1169.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1169,&quot;width&quot;:1404,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eH46!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F88e408b5-aee1-4e19-847e-e5b4c1fbd63c_1404x1169.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eH46!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F88e408b5-aee1-4e19-847e-e5b4c1fbd63c_1404x1169.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eH46!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F88e408b5-aee1-4e19-847e-e5b4c1fbd63c_1404x1169.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eH46!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F88e408b5-aee1-4e19-847e-e5b4c1fbd63c_1404x1169.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Source: data from Grok and ChatGPT. I asked both to come up with numbers and compared them. They differed, but not in the shape of the graph, which is what I&#8217;m interested in. All sources agree that the explosion started in ~2017-2019. Disney doesn&#8217;t break down streaming vs other content, so I took as a baseline what they spent in 2016, and added their content production afterwards (Disney+ was announced in 2017). Data for Apple is approximate, but most sources quote a stable ~$5B. I didn&#8217;t check further, because Netflix was confusing (what&#8217;s relevant, original content? Licensing? With what baseline? Where can we find the breakdown?) Here, what matters more is not the precision, but the illustration. It might have hallucinated some details, so don&#8217;t take this at face value. </em></figcaption></figure></div><p>The results in terms of customers have been amazing.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dkl6!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F889298b5-75a8-4f95-88a3-491301f664a6_1080x1080.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dkl6!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F889298b5-75a8-4f95-88a3-491301f664a6_1080x1080.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dkl6!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F889298b5-75a8-4f95-88a3-491301f664a6_1080x1080.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dkl6!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F889298b5-75a8-4f95-88a3-491301f664a6_1080x1080.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dkl6!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F889298b5-75a8-4f95-88a3-491301f664a6_1080x1080.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dkl6!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F889298b5-75a8-4f95-88a3-491301f664a6_1080x1080.png" width="541" height="541" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/889298b5-75a8-4f95-88a3-491301f664a6_1080x1080.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1080,&quot;width&quot;:1080,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:541,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dkl6!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F889298b5-75a8-4f95-88a3-491301f664a6_1080x1080.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dkl6!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F889298b5-75a8-4f95-88a3-491301f664a6_1080x1080.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dkl6!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F889298b5-75a8-4f95-88a3-491301f664a6_1080x1080.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dkl6!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F889298b5-75a8-4f95-88a3-491301f664a6_1080x1080.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>But how much did the <em>quality</em> of these shows increase? What are the best TV series since the Golden Era of prestige TV started? <em>The Sopranos, The Wire, Game of Thrones, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, The Office, Lost&#8230;</em> Nearly all <em>predate</em> the Streaming Wars. You&#8217;d assume with the explosion of content, we&#8217;d have an explosion of amazing content. But that hasn&#8217;t happened.</p><p>Part of it is niching out: Now you might enjoy some TV show that few other people know, because content specialized in specific niches. But that doesn&#8217;t explain it all. There are hundreds of TV shows that <em>look amazing</em>, Hollywood-level production values, but they&#8217;re crap. Because the <em>stories</em> are crap.</p><p>This shows that the limiting factor in Hollywood has been great storytellers. This became extremely obvious for those who watched <em>Game of Thrones</em>: The showrunners were lauded as amazing storytellers&#8230; until they ran out of material from the author of the books, George R.R. Martin. After that, they still had the biggest budgets in the world, with the biggest teams, and yet their ratings started suffering, and the last season was dismal.</p><p>So:</p><ul><li><p>More quantity and quality of supply &#8594; the expectations of customers rise</p></li><li><p>The limiting factor in fiction becomes great storytellers &#8594; they define the new equilibrium</p></li></ul><p>What will happen to media with AI? Will AI become an amazing storyteller? It might happen in a few years, with the singularity, but I don&#8217;t think it will come immediately, because telling a good story is incredibly hard, as we just saw. It requires a deep understanding of humans, their emotions, their drives, the world, the structure of stories, the rules of dialogue, of character arcs&#8230; To give you an example, the makers of K-Pop Demon Hunters, a seemingly simple movie, spent seven years of their lives on the project, referring to hundreds of different experts, working for 500-1000 man-years to completion. They tweaked the eyes of their characters pixel by pixel to enhance their microexpessions. AIs are not there yet.</p><p>All of that applies to fiction. What about non-fiction? What is the equivalent of great storytellers in non-fiction in the AI era? What will become a commodity, and what will be the remaining limiting factor in a world of AI?</p><h2>Quality Non-Fiction after AI</h2><p>To truly answer this, we need to answer a more fundamental question.</p><h3>Why Do People Consume Media?</h3><p>What are you trying to achieve when you&#8217;re watching the news, scrolling Twitter, reading Substacks?</p><p>Make better decisions.</p><p>Humans are <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUT6GQveD0E">prediction machines</a>. They try to understand how the world works so that they can make the most of it. That&#8217;s why we love stories: They help us understand how others have faced challenges. It&#8217;s why we&#8217;re fascinated about visions of the future, why we love uncovering new truths about the world.</p><p>The application can be professional, like how to communicate to advance at work; it can be personal, like how to shift behavior to become more attractive; it can determine where to live, to maximize the chances of a bright future; it can help us choose who to vote for&#8230; Whatever it is, the underlying, frequently subconscious goal is to make better decisions.</p><p>When you realize this, you realize how shitty the current media experience is: We consume hundreds of thousands of dull, stupid, vacuous, imperfect pieces of content to create an image of the world that matters to us. We then have to synthesize all this data to form an accurate representation of the world, to inform our decisions. You see the problem, right?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jOA1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8335e8b-fb21-48dd-8e39-ebb81680c39c_1600x1056.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jOA1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8335e8b-fb21-48dd-8e39-ebb81680c39c_1600x1056.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jOA1!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8335e8b-fb21-48dd-8e39-ebb81680c39c_1600x1056.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jOA1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8335e8b-fb21-48dd-8e39-ebb81680c39c_1600x1056.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jOA1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8335e8b-fb21-48dd-8e39-ebb81680c39c_1600x1056.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jOA1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8335e8b-fb21-48dd-8e39-ebb81680c39c_1600x1056.png" width="1600" height="1056" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f8335e8b-fb21-48dd-8e39-ebb81680c39c_1600x1056.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1056,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jOA1!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8335e8b-fb21-48dd-8e39-ebb81680c39c_1600x1056.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jOA1!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8335e8b-fb21-48dd-8e39-ebb81680c39c_1600x1056.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jOA1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8335e8b-fb21-48dd-8e39-ebb81680c39c_1600x1056.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jOA1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8335e8b-fb21-48dd-8e39-ebb81680c39c_1600x1056.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>So how can we make this better? Here&#8217;s my take.</p><h3>1. Insightful</h3><p>The most important requirement is to help the audience understand the world better. The more new things you can share, the more they help the world understand, the more valuable your media company. This means pieces of content should not be vapid, irrelevant, rehashing known facts, limiting themselves to facts only, etc.</p><p>And insights shouldn&#8217;t come as completely independent tidbits. A single, coherent worldview is much more compelling, because it puts the insights in context, and pushes not just data points, but entire mental models to better understand the world.</p><h3>2. Entertaining</h3><p>If you&#8217;re boring, though, people won&#8217;t finish your content. If they do, they might forget. You must be entertaining to help people consume your content and remember its lessons. So being entertaining is at least as important as being insightful. Doing either is hard. Doing both is devilish.</p><h3>3. Truthful</h3><p>If a media outlet produces a million pieces of content and 5% are false, you&#8217;re quickly going to stop trusting everything. If an outlet barely gets anything wrong, the audience will learn to trust it and rely on it more and more.</p><h3>4. Honest</h3><p>But nobody is perfect. Every media outlet is bound to make mistakes. A company that tries to bury them will destroy its reputation. One that is honest about its truthfulness, that corrects itself when it makes a mistake, will be seen as more honest and therefore more trustworthy.</p><h3>5. Unbiased</h3><p>You can limit yourself to saying true facts and yet be unfaithful to the truth, by cherry-picking what you cover and choosing a narrative that fits your agenda.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!guw4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F478e00bf-0ad5-42a1-ab05-97bb35fd9db9_1600x1335.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!guw4!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F478e00bf-0ad5-42a1-ab05-97bb35fd9db9_1600x1335.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!guw4!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F478e00bf-0ad5-42a1-ab05-97bb35fd9db9_1600x1335.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!guw4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F478e00bf-0ad5-42a1-ab05-97bb35fd9db9_1600x1335.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!guw4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F478e00bf-0ad5-42a1-ab05-97bb35fd9db9_1600x1335.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!guw4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F478e00bf-0ad5-42a1-ab05-97bb35fd9db9_1600x1335.png" width="624" height="520.65" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/478e00bf-0ad5-42a1-ab05-97bb35fd9db9_1600x1335.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1335,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:624,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!guw4!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F478e00bf-0ad5-42a1-ab05-97bb35fd9db9_1600x1335.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!guw4!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F478e00bf-0ad5-42a1-ab05-97bb35fd9db9_1600x1335.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!guw4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F478e00bf-0ad5-42a1-ab05-97bb35fd9db9_1600x1335.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!guw4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F478e00bf-0ad5-42a1-ab05-97bb35fd9db9_1600x1335.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>You can make money with biased media, but that will never make you a quality source, because you&#8217;ll be pushing incorrect mental models into your audience&#8217;s mind.</p><h3>6. Authentic</h3><p>All other things being equal, everybody prefers artisanal objects to industrial ones. The experience might be very similar, but just knowing that a human was behind them makes them more valuable, more sacred. The same will happen with content.</p><p>But artisanal objects are not usually the same quality as industrial ones. They must be functionally the same, but an artisanal object benefits from tiny <em>flaws</em>. Having a true person behind the content, one that is true to herself, who shows herself as she is, with her virtues and her flaws, will be more likely to reach people&#8217;s hearts. Live performances are one way to show the authenticity of artisanal humanity.</p><p>One of the areas in which authenticity will shine is <em>courage</em>. It&#8217;s easy to say what&#8217;s right when it&#8217;s popular; it&#8217;s much harder when it&#8217;s right but unpopular. <em>#MeToo</em> in 2017 was much more courageous than in 2024; saying that women and men are biologically different, and therefore psychologically different, was harder <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/what-makes-men-and-women-different">in 2023</a> than in 2026. Courage is exceptionally useful because it presents insights in the topics that are most likely to have failed mental models of the world, as information on these topics is limited.</p><h3>7. Personalized</h3><p>If your first language is Japanese, maybe you&#8217;d rather read articles in Japanese instead of English. Maybe the illustrative examples are closer to who you are. Maybe the data presented includes your country, or your region. Or the mental models you have of the world, so that you are never bored by information you already know.</p><p>Before, it was too expensive to do that, but with AI it will become so cheap as to be possible in some cases. The future of content will be personalized.</p><h3>8. At Scale</h3><p>If you do all this as a single creator, you&#8217;ll have a great voice, but you will remain an artisan of the media. The media companies that maximize their impact will have to do all the above at scale.</p><h1>Build with Me the Future of Media + AI</h1><p>So if you want to build an amazing media company that incorporates AI from the ground up, it must deliver insights, entertainment, truth, honesty, authenticity, all without bias, and personalized at scale.</p><p>I envision a new Uncharted Territories that achieves all of that:</p><ul><li><p>More content, with more insights, and more formats. Imagine <em>The New York Times</em>, but without the bias. <em>The Economist</em>, but for the 21<sup>st</sup> Century. <em>Mr Beast</em>, but with useful content.</p></li><li><p>More video: long form and short form.</p></li><li><p>More interactivity: What if articles became software?</p></li><li><p>More audience participation: What would it look like if the audience worked articles together?</p></li><li><p>And much more</p></li></ul><p>But how specifically? What else should that company build? What type of content should it create? To answer this question, we must look into how media is produced today: What are all the tasks involved? Where is AI better than humans, and where are humans going to continue shining? Which tasks should be automated to make them more scalable and better than today? This gives you a strategy of what must be built. That&#8217;s what I&#8217;ll cover in the next article (paywalled).</p><p>Once you have that strategy, how do you make it a reality? By hiring the people to build it. If you&#8217;re the type of person who loves Uncharted Territories, loves AI, and wants to use both to take a shot at making a huge AI-first media company to make the world a better place, apply. I have positions as:</p><ul><li><p>Software developers</p></li><li><p>Vibe coders</p></li><li><p>Research/Writers</p></li><li><p>Video creators</p></li><li><p>Short form video creators</p></li><li><p>Editors</p></li><li><p>Cartographers</p></li><li><p>Merchandise managers</p></li><li><p>Chief of Staff</p></li></ul><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://hiring-landing-page-plum.vercel.app/&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Apply&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://hiring-landing-page-plum.vercel.app/"><span>Apply</span></a></p><p>But I can&#8217;t do any of this if you, the readers, don&#8217;t back the mission. I&#8217;m taking a huge risk hiring all these people, which I can&#8217;t afford with the revenue I&#8217;m currently getting from you. So if you like Uncharted Territories and you want to see more of it in the world, if you want more articles, more topics, more formats (short articles, podcasts, videos, short videos), if you want to see great media in the world of AI (and not just slop), you should support us: Without your subscriptions, I won&#8217;t be able to do any of this.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>And if you really believe in UT and want to fund our growth, you can also consider investing.</p><h3>Why Uncharted Territories? Why Me?</h3><p>Over the last few years, I&#8217;ve been studying and narrating these changes from <em>Uncharted Territories</em>, but it&#8217;s not enough. I can&#8217;t remain a bystander while the biggest change in the history of humanity is unfolding before us. Luckily, I have a background in the two key skills required to succeed in this world:</p><ol><li><p>Tech: I spent 15 years building online products and growing them, starting from product management and ending as the Chief Product Officer of a billion-dollar company, with ~100 people at my charge. In the process, I grew teams from 0 to &gt;100, and helped raise $500M. I know how to build tech companies and products.</p></li><li><p>Media: I&#8217;ve spent the last 6 years working in Uncharted Territories, where I&#8217;ve gone viral on all platforms: Medium, Substack, Twitter, YouTube, Instagram&#8230; I know how to make compelling content.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a></p></li></ol><p>I&#8217;ve decided to merge my two careers into one: building Uncharted Territories into a full media company, where we&#8217;ll combine the best of AI and humans to produce more, better ideas that reach more people, to help the world make better decisions and nudge it in a better direction.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://hiring-landing-page-plum.vercel.app/&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Apply to Join the Expedition&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://hiring-landing-page-plum.vercel.app/"><span>Apply to Join the Expedition</span></a></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>Normally, you&#8217;d eye this graph, notice that AI-generated content now outpaces human content, and move on. But is this graph true? How do they know what is AI and what isn&#8217;t? Why did it slow down mid-2023? Is it simply that the algorithm can&#8217;t detect AI content anymore? Does that mean a much larger majority of content is now AI? Does it even matter how much? How will graphs and their underlying data validity evolve in a world of AI?</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>With the average probably better than with humans, as the average human creator is not that interesting, but AI has some minimum standards.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>Other relevant experience: Before tech, I got my MBA at Stanford and two MSc in engineering. I&#8217;ve studied scriptwriting, communication, and public speaking. I wrote a book on storytelling structure.</em></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Why Florence Started the Renaissance]]></title><description><![CDATA[A combination of geographic luck, network effects, and vagaries of history. Can we replicate them today?]]></description><link>https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/why-florence-started-the-renaissance</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/why-florence-started-the-renaissance</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomas Pueyo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2026 22:55:57 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ee6S!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab12a98b-5036-4914-b6d7-a6ce5aaac241_1240x830.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>One of my <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/mountains">most successful articles</a> now has a YouTube version. If you want to see why warm countries are poorer, go watch it!</em></p><div id="youtube2-zzcU_y6qxUY" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;zzcU_y6qxUY&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/zzcU_y6qxUY?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p><em>Now today&#8217;s article, which I had a lot of fun writing, full of crazy facts. Enjoy!</em></p><div><hr></div><p>After 1300 years as the largest dome in the world, <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-roman-technology-drove-its-architecture">Rome&#8217;s Pantheon</a> was replaced by Florence&#8217;s dome in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Cathedral">Santa Maria del Fiore</a>. To this day, it remains the biggest masonry dome ever built.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> What?!</p><p>In a span of 100 years, the same city would birth an endless list of history-making figures: Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, Brunelleschi, Botticelli, Raphael, the Medici, Machiavelli&#8230; What&#8217;s going on?!</p><p>What was in the water? I&#8217;d like to know, to brew it again. Florence or Silicon Valley can&#8217;t have been pure serendipity. How do we replicate them?</p><p>To answer that, the best place to start is a cathedral that had spent 100 years with a massive hole in the roof that nobody could plug, much before Lorenzo de Medici, Leonardo, or Michelangelo were born.</p><h1>Brunelleschi&#8217;s Duomo</h1><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ee6S!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab12a98b-5036-4914-b6d7-a6ce5aaac241_1240x830.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ee6S!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab12a98b-5036-4914-b6d7-a6ce5aaac241_1240x830.png 424w, 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And he did it without the cement used for the Roman pantheon, as its recipe had been lost in time!</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fjTH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd78517c-56e2-4f2b-800e-b00d5497cb64_800x533.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fjTH!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd78517c-56e2-4f2b-800e-b00d5497cb64_800x533.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fjTH!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd78517c-56e2-4f2b-800e-b00d5497cb64_800x533.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fjTH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd78517c-56e2-4f2b-800e-b00d5497cb64_800x533.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fjTH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd78517c-56e2-4f2b-800e-b00d5497cb64_800x533.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fjTH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd78517c-56e2-4f2b-800e-b00d5497cb64_800x533.png" width="800" height="533" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/bd78517c-56e2-4f2b-800e-b00d5497cb64_800x533.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:533,&quot;width&quot;:800,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fjTH!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd78517c-56e2-4f2b-800e-b00d5497cb64_800x533.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fjTH!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd78517c-56e2-4f2b-800e-b00d5497cb64_800x533.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fjTH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd78517c-56e2-4f2b-800e-b00d5497cb64_800x533.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fjTH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd78517c-56e2-4f2b-800e-b00d5497cb64_800x533.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>The dome of the Roman pantheon was made of pozzolanic cement, a recipe that was lost for over 1000 years</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Even harder, since the rest of the cathedral was already built when he arrived, he couldn&#8217;t change the shape of its walls, reinforce them, buttress them, or anything like that. He had to work with what he had! And he did it without scaffolding! And he did it without ribs!<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> This is crazy.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qzpu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e77552f-1d65-4d50-94cc-99049e249d25_1600x1516.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qzpu!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e77552f-1d65-4d50-94cc-99049e249d25_1600x1516.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qzpu!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e77552f-1d65-4d50-94cc-99049e249d25_1600x1516.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qzpu!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e77552f-1d65-4d50-94cc-99049e249d25_1600x1516.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qzpu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e77552f-1d65-4d50-94cc-99049e249d25_1600x1516.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qzpu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e77552f-1d65-4d50-94cc-99049e249d25_1600x1516.png" width="1600" height="1516" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9e77552f-1d65-4d50-94cc-99049e249d25_1600x1516.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1516,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qzpu!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e77552f-1d65-4d50-94cc-99049e249d25_1600x1516.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qzpu!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e77552f-1d65-4d50-94cc-99049e249d25_1600x1516.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qzpu!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e77552f-1d65-4d50-94cc-99049e249d25_1600x1516.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qzpu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e77552f-1d65-4d50-94cc-99049e249d25_1600x1516.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Not only is this beautiful, but can you see ribs, lines of stone at the angles to support the structure? No! This is a continuous painting uninterrupted by ribs!</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>The key challenge was to prevent the dome from falling. The first thing there was to adopt <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-western-religion-drove-its-architectural">the insight of Gothic architecture</a> that taller arches are stronger than circular ones. So the dome is not a hemisphere, it&#8217;s a bit more vertical.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_-eE!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa978dffe-76ec-4a74-abab-103d8b9d5584_1272x1364.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_-eE!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa978dffe-76ec-4a74-abab-103d8b9d5584_1272x1364.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_-eE!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa978dffe-76ec-4a74-abab-103d8b9d5584_1272x1364.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_-eE!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa978dffe-76ec-4a74-abab-103d8b9d5584_1272x1364.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_-eE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa978dffe-76ec-4a74-abab-103d8b9d5584_1272x1364.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_-eE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa978dffe-76ec-4a74-abab-103d8b9d5584_1272x1364.png" width="1272" height="1364" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a978dffe-76ec-4a74-abab-103d8b9d5584_1272x1364.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1364,&quot;width&quot;:1272,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_-eE!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa978dffe-76ec-4a74-abab-103d8b9d5584_1272x1364.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_-eE!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa978dffe-76ec-4a74-abab-103d8b9d5584_1272x1364.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_-eE!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa978dffe-76ec-4a74-abab-103d8b9d5584_1272x1364.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_-eE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa978dffe-76ec-4a74-abab-103d8b9d5584_1272x1364.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>I placed a semicircle there. Notice how the dome is taller than that. <a href="https://www.exploringart.co/brunelleschi-santa-maria-fiore-dome/">Source</a>.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>The second was to make it light by emptying it. The structural force is carried by the inner dome (red), and then there&#8217;s a space and an outer shell (green).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1tja!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06010929-6cc4-4f07-831b-ab81c9a8aa81_1472x1348.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1tja!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06010929-6cc4-4f07-831b-ab81c9a8aa81_1472x1348.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1tja!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06010929-6cc4-4f07-831b-ab81c9a8aa81_1472x1348.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1tja!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06010929-6cc4-4f07-831b-ab81c9a8aa81_1472x1348.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1tja!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06010929-6cc4-4f07-831b-ab81c9a8aa81_1472x1348.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1tja!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06010929-6cc4-4f07-831b-ab81c9a8aa81_1472x1348.png" width="1472" height="1348" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/06010929-6cc4-4f07-831b-ab81c9a8aa81_1472x1348.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1348,&quot;width&quot;:1472,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1tja!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06010929-6cc4-4f07-831b-ab81c9a8aa81_1472x1348.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1tja!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06010929-6cc4-4f07-831b-ab81c9a8aa81_1472x1348.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1tja!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06010929-6cc4-4f07-831b-ab81c9a8aa81_1472x1348.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1tja!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06010929-6cc4-4f07-831b-ab81c9a8aa81_1472x1348.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>In green and red the two roofs. The dotted lines and arrows show the structure, how it was inspired in Gothic for the angle: Instead of having a single semicircle (drawn here in dotted lines), there are two semicircles (also in dotted lines), one for each side of the dome. The arrows show the distance between each semicircle and its center.</em> <em><a href="https://www.exploringart.co/brunelleschi-santa-maria-fiore-dome/">Source</a>.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>You can see the space between the roofs here:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MBgj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5d3fa301-b389-43ed-8bed-64d9b6f5eaa6_1600x799.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MBgj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5d3fa301-b389-43ed-8bed-64d9b6f5eaa6_1600x799.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD3fJphus-o">Source</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Even then, it would have fallen.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uqdG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb9cb155-1a7d-4e2a-8436-35a9f591a5e9_1024x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uqdG!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb9cb155-1a7d-4e2a-8436-35a9f591a5e9_1024x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uqdG!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb9cb155-1a7d-4e2a-8436-35a9f591a5e9_1024x1024.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uqdG!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb9cb155-1a7d-4e2a-8436-35a9f591a5e9_1024x1024.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uqdG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb9cb155-1a7d-4e2a-8436-35a9f591a5e9_1024x1024.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uqdG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb9cb155-1a7d-4e2a-8436-35a9f591a5e9_1024x1024.png" width="1024" height="1024" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uqdG!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb9cb155-1a7d-4e2a-8436-35a9f591a5e9_1024x1024.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uqdG!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb9cb155-1a7d-4e2a-8436-35a9f591a5e9_1024x1024.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uqdG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb9cb155-1a7d-4e2a-8436-35a9f591a5e9_1024x1024.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://resonanceswavesandfields.blogspot.com/2014/03/brunelleschis-dome-its-structure-and.html">Source</a>, cleaned up with nanobanana</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Brunelleschi needed a way to pull the top outward and push the bottom inward. He solved it with stone and wood rings around the dome!</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-bGB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdededc54-1edd-4db0-b801-54e7c88aae32_800x751.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-bGB!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdededc54-1edd-4db0-b801-54e7c88aae32_800x751.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-bGB!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdededc54-1edd-4db0-b801-54e7c88aae32_800x751.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-bGB!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdededc54-1edd-4db0-b801-54e7c88aae32_800x751.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-bGB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdededc54-1edd-4db0-b801-54e7c88aae32_800x751.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-bGB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdededc54-1edd-4db0-b801-54e7c88aae32_800x751.png" width="800" height="751" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/dededc54-1edd-4db0-b801-54e7c88aae32_800x751.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:751,&quot;width&quot;:800,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-bGB!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdededc54-1edd-4db0-b801-54e7c88aae32_800x751.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-bGB!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdededc54-1edd-4db0-b801-54e7c88aae32_800x751.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-bGB!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdededc54-1edd-4db0-b801-54e7c88aae32_800x751.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-bGB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdededc54-1edd-4db0-b801-54e7c88aae32_800x751.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>These rail-like structures are made of sandstone and wood, connected with iron. The craziness is that, to prevent the dome from bending, they convert the tension into compression, as the ring is compressed against itself by the dome&#8217;s pulling. I like to think of these rails as horizontal, infinite arches.</em> <em><a href="https://www.exploringart.co/brunelleschi-santa-maria-fiore-dome/">Source</a>.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>The other thing Brunelleschi had to figure out was how to build this thing without a wooden scaffolding inside (it would have required too much wood!). He solved that by building the entire structure ring by ring, using <em>herringbone</em> bricks, crossing the bricks so that they would support each other.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iy6T!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F199228bd-cb35-4de3-9ad5-51a0b829ad89_1064x992.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iy6T!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F199228bd-cb35-4de3-9ad5-51a0b829ad89_1064x992.png 424w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iy6T!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F199228bd-cb35-4de3-9ad5-51a0b829ad89_1064x992.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iy6T!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F199228bd-cb35-4de3-9ad5-51a0b829ad89_1064x992.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iy6T!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F199228bd-cb35-4de3-9ad5-51a0b829ad89_1064x992.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>From <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD3fJphus-o">this</a>, cleaned up with nanobanana, although from the pics I&#8217;m not sure what this video depicts is the actual herringbone structure of the dome, since I can&#8217;t see how that would stand, it doesn&#8217;t correspond to the pic above (you can see the actual herringbone bricks on the earlier photo of the passageway between domes), nor to the Roman herringbone pic below. But I&#8217;m not sure. </em></figcaption></figure></div><p>OK hold on. What&#8217;s going on here? Why, after 1300 years, out of nowhere, is a goldsmith that doesn&#8217;t even have the materials necessary for replicating the Ancient Rome Pantheon able to build a <em>bigger one?!</em> That we&#8217;ve never replicated?!</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NikF!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e84dc8f-ac87-4ba0-bfcc-425b9d4732f3_985x1641.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NikF!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e84dc8f-ac87-4ba0-bfcc-425b9d4732f3_985x1641.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NikF!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e84dc8f-ac87-4ba0-bfcc-425b9d4732f3_985x1641.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NikF!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e84dc8f-ac87-4ba0-bfcc-425b9d4732f3_985x1641.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NikF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e84dc8f-ac87-4ba0-bfcc-425b9d4732f3_985x1641.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NikF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e84dc8f-ac87-4ba0-bfcc-425b9d4732f3_985x1641.png" width="508" height="846.3228426395939" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9e84dc8f-ac87-4ba0-bfcc-425b9d4732f3_985x1641.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1641,&quot;width&quot;:985,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:508,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NikF!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e84dc8f-ac87-4ba0-bfcc-425b9d4732f3_985x1641.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NikF!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e84dc8f-ac87-4ba0-bfcc-425b9d4732f3_985x1641.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NikF!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e84dc8f-ac87-4ba0-bfcc-425b9d4732f3_985x1641.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NikF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e84dc8f-ac87-4ba0-bfcc-425b9d4732f3_985x1641.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>How did you do it, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filippo_Brunelleschi">Filippo</a>? Fun fact: He was originally a goldsmith, and he got <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_patent_law">one of the first patents</a> in the world, for a machine to hoist goods onto barges on Florence&#8217;s Arno River.</em></figcaption></figure></div><h1>Leonardo&#8217;s Roman Proportions</h1><p>Brunelleschi lived in Florence, a city with plenty of Ancient Rome ruins. I think it&#8217;s hard for us to understand what living among these vestiges of a better time felt like.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lnCY!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F184c59c0-fc29-4205-907e-87ba0ddc61e4_1600x945.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lnCY!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F184c59c0-fc29-4205-907e-87ba0ddc61e4_1600x945.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lnCY!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F184c59c0-fc29-4205-907e-87ba0ddc61e4_1600x945.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lnCY!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F184c59c0-fc29-4205-907e-87ba0ddc61e4_1600x945.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lnCY!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F184c59c0-fc29-4205-907e-87ba0ddc61e4_1600x945.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lnCY!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F184c59c0-fc29-4205-907e-87ba0ddc61e4_1600x945.png" width="1200" height="708.75" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/184c59c0-fc29-4205-907e-87ba0ddc61e4_1600x945.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:945,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lnCY!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F184c59c0-fc29-4205-907e-87ba0ddc61e4_1600x945.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lnCY!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F184c59c0-fc29-4205-907e-87ba0ddc61e4_1600x945.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lnCY!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F184c59c0-fc29-4205-907e-87ba0ddc61e4_1600x945.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lnCY!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F184c59c0-fc29-4205-907e-87ba0ddc61e4_1600x945.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Aqueduct in Ruins, Hubert Robert, 1700s. I saw a bunch of pictures like these I believe it was in Vienna&#8217;s Kunsthistorisches Museum, or in Munich&#8217;s Residenz. I can&#8217;t really find them. It&#8217;s a series of two-three dozens of paintings of life around Roman ruins, centuries after the fall of the Empire.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><a href="https://www.cabinetmagazine.org/issues/20/bratton.php">From</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrarch">Petrarch</a>, a Tuscan from the neighboring city of Arezzo<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> who visited Rome in the mid-1300s:</p><blockquote><p>[Rome is a] <em>broken city</em>, <em>the remnants of the ruins lay before our eyes</em>.<em> [</em>...]<em> Who can doubt that Rome would rise again instantly if she began to know herself?</em></p></blockquote><p>Every day, you&#8217;d be reminded that your civilization is inferior to the one that came before.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_mV0!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9fd1e19c-e126-440d-85a7-7bce4d53eea0_1600x1268.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_mV0!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9fd1e19c-e126-440d-85a7-7bce4d53eea0_1600x1268.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_mV0!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9fd1e19c-e126-440d-85a7-7bce4d53eea0_1600x1268.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_mV0!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9fd1e19c-e126-440d-85a7-7bce4d53eea0_1600x1268.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_mV0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9fd1e19c-e126-440d-85a7-7bce4d53eea0_1600x1268.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_mV0!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9fd1e19c-e126-440d-85a7-7bce4d53eea0_1600x1268.png" width="1200" height="951" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9fd1e19c-e126-440d-85a7-7bce4d53eea0_1600x1268.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:1268,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_mV0!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9fd1e19c-e126-440d-85a7-7bce4d53eea0_1600x1268.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_mV0!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9fd1e19c-e126-440d-85a7-7bce4d53eea0_1600x1268.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_mV0!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9fd1e19c-e126-440d-85a7-7bce4d53eea0_1600x1268.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_mV0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9fd1e19c-e126-440d-85a7-7bce4d53eea0_1600x1268.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>A Hermit Praying in the Ruins of a Roman Temple, Hubert Robert, about 1760</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Brunelleschi, inspired by these ruins and by some people before him like Petrarch, who had visited Rome, decided to make a trip to Rome too. Ruins were everywhere. He spent two years there, studying its remaining architecture. He studied the Pantheon to replicate its dome in Florence, and got the idea for the herringbone bricks by observing brickwork there.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4J2B!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba5683cf-e312-4638-8447-a631a3bbd493_1266x1320.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4J2B!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba5683cf-e312-4638-8447-a631a3bbd493_1266x1320.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4J2B!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba5683cf-e312-4638-8447-a631a3bbd493_1266x1320.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4J2B!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba5683cf-e312-4638-8447-a631a3bbd493_1266x1320.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4J2B!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba5683cf-e312-4638-8447-a631a3bbd493_1266x1320.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4J2B!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba5683cf-e312-4638-8447-a631a3bbd493_1266x1320.png" width="521" height="543.2227488151659" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ba5683cf-e312-4638-8447-a631a3bbd493_1266x1320.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1320,&quot;width&quot;:1266,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:521,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4J2B!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba5683cf-e312-4638-8447-a631a3bbd493_1266x1320.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4J2B!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba5683cf-e312-4638-8447-a631a3bbd493_1266x1320.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4J2B!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba5683cf-e312-4638-8447-a631a3bbd493_1266x1320.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4J2B!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba5683cf-e312-4638-8447-a631a3bbd493_1266x1320.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Opus spicatum paving in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trajan%27s_Market">Trajan's Market</a>, Rome.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>He didn&#8217;t go alone; he was accompanied by the famed sculptor, Donatello, who was inspired to sculpt a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_(Donatello,_bronze)">David</a>, the first freestanding nude male sculpture since antiquity. Together, they <a href="https://lithub.com/from-the-ruins-of-rome-to-the-invention-of-perspective/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">excavated</a> buried structures and measured monuments like the Pantheon, the Baths of Caracalla, Roman basilicas&#8230;</p><p>Around that same time, another Florentine, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poggio_Bracciolini">Bracciolini</a>, rediscovered<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitruvius">Vitruvius</a>&#8217;s <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_architectura">De Architectura</a></em>, the only architectural treatise that has survived from antiquity to this day.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zGjZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F749469cf-8525-4280-8689-1fe4e1ac27a7_1506x2048.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zGjZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F749469cf-8525-4280-8689-1fe4e1ac27a7_1506x2048.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zGjZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F749469cf-8525-4280-8689-1fe4e1ac27a7_1506x2048.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zGjZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F749469cf-8525-4280-8689-1fe4e1ac27a7_1506x2048.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zGjZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F749469cf-8525-4280-8689-1fe4e1ac27a7_1506x2048.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zGjZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F749469cf-8525-4280-8689-1fe4e1ac27a7_1506x2048.png" width="587" height="798.2576361221779" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zGjZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F749469cf-8525-4280-8689-1fe4e1ac27a7_1506x2048.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zGjZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F749469cf-8525-4280-8689-1fe4e1ac27a7_1506x2048.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zGjZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F749469cf-8525-4280-8689-1fe4e1ac27a7_1506x2048.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>The Vitruvian Man, drawn by Leonardo da Vinci. The idea was that there are ideal proportions, some of which we can see in the human body, and they give you a hint of the ideal proportions in other fields like architecture.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Other Florentines like <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelangelo">Michelangelo</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raphael">Raphael</a><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a>, and Leonardo da Vinci traveled to Rome to <s>form the ninja turtles squad</s> study it.</p><p>Between <em>De Architectura</em> and visits to Rome, architects and artists started noticing that Roman buildings used modular, proportional systems and strict rules of geometry: harmonious numerical ratios (1:1, 1:2, 2:3, etc.), room height related to width, temple column spacing based on column diameter&#8230; These ideas gave Renaissance architects something medieval builders lacked: a theoretical mathematical framework for beauty.</p><p>Brunelleschi came back from the trip with a firm idea of what the dome should look like, and all the other Florentine visitors came back with specific ideas of proportions and classical elements.</p><p>So why did the Renaissance happen in Florence? Well, it couldn't have happened much farther from Rome. Think of the experience of these Florentines, growing up among substantial Florentine ruins from the Ancient Roman Empire, and close enough to visit Rome and witness the massive beauty that had been lost. The farther you were from Rome, the fewer the ruins, the harder it was to get to Rome, and the less inspiration Rome would have provided.</p><p>This probably explains why the Renaissance had to happen close to Rome, but not specifically in Florence. Why not Siena, Pisa, Naples, Milan, or even Rome? Why then, and not 200 or 300 years earlier or later?</p><h1>Machiavellian City-States</h1><p>In the Dark Ages, as the Roman Empire fell and law and order withdrew, cities decayed and many disappeared. But not so in Italy. Cities like Milan, Florence, Verona, Bologna, Ravenna, Pisa, Venice, Genoa, and Siena remained populated. By the 11th century, they had merchant classes, bishops, courts, guilds, militias&#8230; They were already institutionally capable of governing themselves. This independence of communities happened everywhere in the former Roman Empire, but it was especially true in the Holy Roman Empire, modern-day Germany and Italy.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0QpI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04f25750-bec7-4429-a758-ec88df3a9e5c_1600x896.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0QpI!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04f25750-bec7-4429-a758-ec88df3a9e5c_1600x896.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0QpI!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04f25750-bec7-4429-a758-ec88df3a9e5c_1600x896.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0QpI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04f25750-bec7-4429-a758-ec88df3a9e5c_1600x896.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0QpI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04f25750-bec7-4429-a758-ec88df3a9e5c_1600x896.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0QpI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04f25750-bec7-4429-a758-ec88df3a9e5c_1600x896.png" width="1600" height="896" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/04f25750-bec7-4429-a758-ec88df3a9e5c_1600x896.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:896,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0QpI!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04f25750-bec7-4429-a758-ec88df3a9e5c_1600x896.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0QpI!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04f25750-bec7-4429-a758-ec88df3a9e5c_1600x896.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0QpI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04f25750-bec7-4429-a758-ec88df3a9e5c_1600x896.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0QpI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04f25750-bec7-4429-a758-ec88df3a9e5c_1600x896.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This is Italy in 1500. Chaos!</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RDX_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c3bd945-bd4b-4401-9bb7-c06a2a040b20_1593x1600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RDX_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c3bd945-bd4b-4401-9bb7-c06a2a040b20_1593x1600.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RDX_!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c3bd945-bd4b-4401-9bb7-c06a2a040b20_1593x1600.png 848w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2c3bd945-bd4b-4401-9bb7-c06a2a040b20_1593x1600.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1600,&quot;width&quot;:1593,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RDX_!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c3bd945-bd4b-4401-9bb7-c06a2a040b20_1593x1600.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RDX_!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c3bd945-bd4b-4401-9bb7-c06a2a040b20_1593x1600.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RDX_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c3bd945-bd4b-4401-9bb7-c06a2a040b20_1593x1600.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RDX_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c3bd945-bd4b-4401-9bb7-c06a2a040b20_1593x1600.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>I explored why this happened in <em><a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/why-were-germany-and-italy-the-last">Why Were Germany and Italy the Last European Countries to Unify?</a></em> The short answer is that Italy was the battleground between two dimensions of power: the temporal and the spiritual.</p><p>This was Europe around 1200 AD:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZlSN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F987fe309-8468-4362-a99f-faf30dc5ce8b_1600x1469.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZlSN!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F987fe309-8468-4362-a99f-faf30dc5ce8b_1600x1469.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZlSN!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F987fe309-8468-4362-a99f-faf30dc5ce8b_1600x1469.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZlSN!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F987fe309-8468-4362-a99f-faf30dc5ce8b_1600x1469.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZlSN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F987fe309-8468-4362-a99f-faf30dc5ce8b_1600x1469.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZlSN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F987fe309-8468-4362-a99f-faf30dc5ce8b_1600x1469.png" width="1600" height="1469" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/987fe309-8468-4362-a99f-faf30dc5ce8b_1600x1469.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1469,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZlSN!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F987fe309-8468-4362-a99f-faf30dc5ce8b_1600x1469.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZlSN!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F987fe309-8468-4362-a99f-faf30dc5ce8b_1600x1469.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZlSN!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F987fe309-8468-4362-a99f-faf30dc5ce8b_1600x1469.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZlSN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F987fe309-8468-4362-a99f-faf30dc5ce8b_1600x1469.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>For centuries since the creation of the Holy Roman Empire in the 10th Century, the Emperor and the Pope fought for power and influence, like <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investiture_Controversy">who would appoint the powerful bishops</a>. Around 1200, the Holy Roman Emperor Frederick II had just united the northern part from his father with the Kingdom of Sicily to the south from his mother. The Pope logically freaked out when he saw his Papal States surrounded, and stirred up revolts everywhere he could in Italy.</p><p>Crucially, Italy is separated from Germany by the mighty Alps, making it very hard for the Holy Roman Emperor (HRE) to have strong influence to the south.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G3RS!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48a3bf64-98ea-4eff-b571-452803b94228_1600x1245.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G3RS!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48a3bf64-98ea-4eff-b571-452803b94228_1600x1245.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G3RS!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48a3bf64-98ea-4eff-b571-452803b94228_1600x1245.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G3RS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48a3bf64-98ea-4eff-b571-452803b94228_1600x1245.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G3RS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48a3bf64-98ea-4eff-b571-452803b94228_1600x1245.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G3RS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48a3bf64-98ea-4eff-b571-452803b94228_1600x1245.png" width="1600" height="1245" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/48a3bf64-98ea-4eff-b571-452803b94228_1600x1245.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1245,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G3RS!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48a3bf64-98ea-4eff-b571-452803b94228_1600x1245.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G3RS!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48a3bf64-98ea-4eff-b571-452803b94228_1600x1245.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G3RS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48a3bf64-98ea-4eff-b571-452803b94228_1600x1245.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G3RS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48a3bf64-98ea-4eff-b571-452803b94228_1600x1245.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>And Italy is very mountainous, with lots of secluded valleys that birthed strong, independent cities. This meant that, in practice, local cities had been quite autonomous for a very long time, even if they were nominatively under the HRE.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w0S-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F66cbd729-de7f-41de-ba33-66c460e61d60_1597x1600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w0S-!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F66cbd729-de7f-41de-ba33-66c460e61d60_1597x1600.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w0S-!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F66cbd729-de7f-41de-ba33-66c460e61d60_1597x1600.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w0S-!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F66cbd729-de7f-41de-ba33-66c460e61d60_1597x1600.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w0S-!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F66cbd729-de7f-41de-ba33-66c460e61d60_1597x1600.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w0S-!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F66cbd729-de7f-41de-ba33-66c460e61d60_1597x1600.png" width="1597" height="1600" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/66cbd729-de7f-41de-ba33-66c460e61d60_1597x1600.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1600,&quot;width&quot;:1597,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w0S-!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F66cbd729-de7f-41de-ba33-66c460e61d60_1597x1600.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w0S-!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F66cbd729-de7f-41de-ba33-66c460e61d60_1597x1600.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w0S-!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F66cbd729-de7f-41de-ba33-66c460e61d60_1597x1600.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w0S-!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F66cbd729-de7f-41de-ba33-66c460e61d60_1597x1600.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>So when the Pope stirred revolt all over Italy, different cities decided to support different sides. This is what&#8217;s called the war of the Guelphs and Ghibellines.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JjD2!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e5fff95-2acf-4a0c-bbdb-15cef3ed999c_500x375.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JjD2!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e5fff95-2acf-4a0c-bbdb-15cef3ed999c_500x375.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JjD2!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e5fff95-2acf-4a0c-bbdb-15cef3ed999c_500x375.png 848w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Depiction of a 14th C. fight (1369?) between the militias of the Guelph and Ghibelline factions in the Italian commune of Bologna, from the Croniche of Giovanni Sercambi of Lucca.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Notably, the closer you were to one of these big powers, the less likely you were to support it, because it&#8217;s better to have a distant lord than a neighboring one. This created a patchwork of alliances and counteralliances, of wars and betrayals. Over the centuries, the power of the HRE dwindled in the region, and the emperor became just a distant influence.</p><p>This is the context in which the Florentine <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccol%C3%B2_Machiavelli">Machiavelli</a> thrives and writes his famous work <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prince">The Prince</a> </em>in the early 1500s<em>.</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a></p><p>So all this is why the Northern Italian region had many independent city-states:</p><ul><li><p>The cities there remained inhabited since Roman times.</p></li><li><p>The area has many fertile valleys among mountains, allowing for many urban nuclei to sprout.</p></li><li><p>The region was separated from its rulers by the Alps, which meant little oversight.</p></li><li><p>This is at the border region between the HRE and the Papal States, so they became a proxy war battleground that exacerbated their differences and undermined the oversight of both on the region</p></li></ul><p>Independent states were crucial to explore new styles locally and to push for their own architectural styles to differentiate from other competing city-states. But this doesn&#8217;t tell us why they were so rich, and you needed a lot of money to build such huge cathedrals.</p><h1>Medici Wealth</h1><p>At the time, Italy&#8217;s population was rebounding from the Black Death faster than in many other European countries.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QL7D!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F376a4c53-0d3f-4024-a183-6b3426f7b9f6_1600x1130.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QL7D!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F376a4c53-0d3f-4024-a183-6b3426f7b9f6_1600x1130.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QL7D!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F376a4c53-0d3f-4024-a183-6b3426f7b9f6_1600x1130.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QL7D!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F376a4c53-0d3f-4024-a183-6b3426f7b9f6_1600x1130.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QL7D!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F376a4c53-0d3f-4024-a183-6b3426f7b9f6_1600x1130.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QL7D!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F376a4c53-0d3f-4024-a183-6b3426f7b9f6_1600x1130.png" width="1600" height="1130" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/376a4c53-0d3f-4024-a183-6b3426f7b9f6_1600x1130.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1130,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QL7D!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F376a4c53-0d3f-4024-a183-6b3426f7b9f6_1600x1130.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QL7D!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F376a4c53-0d3f-4024-a183-6b3426f7b9f6_1600x1130.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QL7D!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F376a4c53-0d3f-4024-a183-6b3426f7b9f6_1600x1130.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QL7D!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F376a4c53-0d3f-4024-a183-6b3426f7b9f6_1600x1130.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>And these people were rich! In the 1300s, Northern Italy was already the richest region in Europe.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qhYc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35e74bf6-abf2-4884-ba99-306d089d97de_616x798.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qhYc!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35e74bf6-abf2-4884-ba99-306d089d97de_616x798.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qhYc!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35e74bf6-abf2-4884-ba99-306d089d97de_616x798.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qhYc!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35e74bf6-abf2-4884-ba99-306d089d97de_616x798.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qhYc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35e74bf6-abf2-4884-ba99-306d089d97de_616x798.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qhYc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35e74bf6-abf2-4884-ba99-306d089d97de_616x798.png" width="616" height="798" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/35e74bf6-abf2-4884-ba99-306d089d97de_616x798.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:798,&quot;width&quot;:616,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qhYc!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35e74bf6-abf2-4884-ba99-306d089d97de_616x798.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qhYc!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35e74bf6-abf2-4884-ba99-306d089d97de_616x798.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qhYc!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35e74bf6-abf2-4884-ba99-306d089d97de_616x798.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qhYc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35e74bf6-abf2-4884-ba99-306d089d97de_616x798.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>GDP per capita estimates for 1300 AD. <a href="https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2402060121">Source</a>.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>One of the main reasons was urbanization. These were the main European cities in the early 1500s. Notice how many are in northern Italy!</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AXP7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97a4666c-c01d-4d7c-b3d4-1280abfbf120_1600x1271.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AXP7!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97a4666c-c01d-4d7c-b3d4-1280abfbf120_1600x1271.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AXP7!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97a4666c-c01d-4d7c-b3d4-1280abfbf120_1600x1271.png 848w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/97a4666c-c01d-4d7c-b3d4-1280abfbf120_1600x1271.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1271,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AXP7!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97a4666c-c01d-4d7c-b3d4-1280abfbf120_1600x1271.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AXP7!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97a4666c-c01d-4d7c-b3d4-1280abfbf120_1600x1271.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AXP7!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97a4666c-c01d-4d7c-b3d4-1280abfbf120_1600x1271.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AXP7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97a4666c-c01d-4d7c-b3d4-1280abfbf120_1600x1271.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/dn2y1e/european_urban_population_in_1530/">Source</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>We already explained why: They were already quite populated in Roman times, and they have some of the best plains in the Mediterranean, especially in the Po Valley.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Z7Dp!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc60bb2cf-fdf5-4549-9904-8e85e2cddd9b_1600x1213.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>A big population that could grow fast and was already urban meant a bigger share of the population lived in cities.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3mPe!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feff333eb-3bf9-43b6-bc66-a68d4d3d3b18_1134x640.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3mPe!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feff333eb-3bf9-43b6-bc66-a68d4d3d3b18_1134x640.png" width="1134" height="640" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/eff333eb-3bf9-43b6-bc66-a68d4d3d3b18_1134x640.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:640,&quot;width&quot;:1134,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" 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Jan de Vries (1984), European Urbanization 1500&#8211;1800. Paul Bairoch, Jean Batou, and Pierre Ch&#232;vre (1988), The Population of European Cities from 800 to 1850. Via ChatGPT.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Of course, cities are more productive than rural areas due to their network effects. They become marketplaces, develop industries, invest in infrastructure, build industrial clusters&#8230;</p><p>Northern Italy also had another huge benefit: It was in the middle of global trade networks.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!atfM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F124919f8-06d8-4688-a662-81f5b5006bb4_1600x1173.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!atfM!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F124919f8-06d8-4688-a662-81f5b5006bb4_1600x1173.png 424w, 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This is why Venice and Genoa grew so rich as maritime trade republics.</p><p>And within Northern Italy, Florence was very well positioned.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!I-oO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe5091b1a-5465-4586-899f-592ede1e677c_1600x1143.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!I-oO!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe5091b1a-5465-4586-899f-592ede1e677c_1600x1143.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Roman roads are relevant because they were still in use, and also because they followed the most natural paths from one city to another, so the fact that Florence was on one of the best paths to cross the Apennines from Rome wouldn&#8217;t have changed by the Middle Ages.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>If you wanted to move between the HRE and Rome, the best path went through Florence, which is a natural crossroads because Florence and Bologna flank the Apennine mountains.</p><p>So Florence, like only a handful of other Italian cities, had a unique confluence of assets:</p><ul><li><p>It was in a populated region, because it has a good climate and great agricultural plains</p></li><li><p>This was in the richest region in the world, because it was at the crossroads connecting all the main kingdoms of the time</p></li><li><p>The region also contained many cities that had remained inhabited since Roman times, and Florence was one of the big, urbanized cities in the region</p></li><li><p>Situated between the two regional powers of the HRE and the Papal States, these cities had more independence than most</p></li><li><p>It was at a crossroads for internal Italian trade, making it uniquely rich as a marketplace</p></li><li><p>Close to Rome, to receive strong architectural influence from the Roman Empire</p></li></ul><p>Still, it could have been Siena, Bologna, Parma, maybe Genoa or Venice. And sure enough, all of them have beautiful architecture. But something set Florence apart.</p><p>Money.</p><h3>The Origins of Florentine Wealth</h3><p>The best way to know who ruled back then is to look at who funded the biggest monuments. So who funded the cathedral, Santa Maria del Fiore?</p><p>One tip is in the name: <em>Santa Maria</em> refers to Virgin Mary, and echoes the importance of religion. But <em>fiore?</em> These are flowers&#8212;like Firenze. This refers to the city: The cathedral was meant to represent both the church and the state. This was not a purely religious endeavor. In fact, it was anything but. It was the commune of Florence that financed it. And where did the money come from? The Wool Guild, <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arte_della_Lana">Arte della Lana</a>.</em></p><p>By the 1200s, the wool trade had become one of the city&#8217;s largest industries, among other things precisely because Florence was such a big city:<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a> Wool must be sheared, sorted, scoured, carded, drawn, spun, wound, warped, woven, fulled, sheared, pressed, dyed, sewn&#8230; There are many steps, but crucially, each step can be done by one single person or a few, with pretty basic machinery. So people across the city worked on different steps in their homes. The bigger the city, the more workers could be dedicated to each step, the more competition and learning between them, the more volume could be produced, and the bigger the industry. The bigger it is, the more it specializes, the better its products compared to the competition, the better the reputation, and you end up dominating a continent-wide market.</p><p>This industry became so big that local wool was not enough to feed it, so Florentines started buying wool abroad (in Spain, England, Flanders&#8230;), and finished it into high-quality cloth. They organized themselves into guilds, which helped them work together to promote the industry&#8217;s quality, its trade, its financing&#8230;</p><p>Financing! When you buy wool and sell cloth abroad, you need currency exchange. And when there are so many steps to the process, from so many workers, you must pay them a salary before you sell the cloth or garment, so you need a lot of working capital. So the Florentines <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guilds_of_Florence">also developed</a> a very strong financial guild.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bjpe!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc3ab4fa-2dd8-47a1-bf0b-3b95dd04bc14_965x1355.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bjpe!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc3ab4fa-2dd8-47a1-bf0b-3b95dd04bc14_965x1355.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Some of the Florentine guilds</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>The financial guild minted the gold florin, which soon became a currency used across Europe thanks to its distribution through wool commerce and banking, and to its reliability, as ensured by the guild.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Euh6!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F09b609a2-f91d-4fec-a961-cedfa0a8cc29_500x247.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Euh6!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F09b609a2-f91d-4fec-a961-cedfa0a8cc29_500x247.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Euh6!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F09b609a2-f91d-4fec-a961-cedfa0a8cc29_500x247.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Euh6!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F09b609a2-f91d-4fec-a961-cedfa0a8cc29_500x247.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Euh6!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F09b609a2-f91d-4fec-a961-cedfa0a8cc29_500x247.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>This gave the Florentines <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-consequences-of-the-silver-flood">seigniorage</a> privileges</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>The power&#8212;and money&#8212;of the commune was concentrated in the hands of these guilds, and of course legislation favored them. Imagine what that did to the competition: Across most of Europe, industrialists, bankers, and merchants had to withstand the logic of Church and nobles. But Florence could do regulatory arbitrage, optimizing everything to support its trade; another advantage to pull forward.</p><p>Then the city had a lucky strike. Remember the Guelphs and Ghibellines? Florence supported the Guelphs (the pope), while its rival Siena supported the Ghibellines (HRE),<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a> and it turns out the pope won. Siena was stripped of its banking and tax collection monopolies, which <a href="https://www.britannica.com/place/Florence/History">went</a> to Florentine families. Notably, the Medici created a bank that grew strongly throughout that time, was on the right side of the war, and was given the management of the Papal Treasury. Their good relationship also gave them a monopoly of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_alum">alum</a> mining, a product crucial for dyes that could only be sourced in mines near Rome.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a> This is also the time when <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-consequences-of-the-silver-flood">silver started</a> <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-silver-flooded-the-world">flooding Europe</a>, so banking became extremely profitable. Eventually, the Medici would take over the politics of Florence and convert it into a duchy.</p><p>Florence used this newly-found power to strengthen its position across Tuscany and conquered its neighbors one by one. When it took over Pisa, it acquired a port. When it took over Siena, it eliminated its main rival.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5IwH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd3ea222d-6c92-46ac-8dab-80e72b090002_1367x1139.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5IwH!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd3ea222d-6c92-46ac-8dab-80e72b090002_1367x1139.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5IwH!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd3ea222d-6c92-46ac-8dab-80e72b090002_1367x1139.png 848w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5IwH!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd3ea222d-6c92-46ac-8dab-80e72b090002_1367x1139.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5IwH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd3ea222d-6c92-46ac-8dab-80e72b090002_1367x1139.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5IwH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd3ea222d-6c92-46ac-8dab-80e72b090002_1367x1139.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>So we can add a few factors to our reasoning of how Florence became the cradle of Renaissance:</p><ul><li><p>Thanks to its sizable population and perfect position at a crossroads within Northern Italy, Florence became wealthy in the pretty typical network effect of cities we&#8217;ve already seen elsewhere: first an industry developed (wool), which begat new industries (wool processing into cloth, finance). This made the city rich.</p></li><li><p>It was on the right side of a war, so it was showered with spoils, most notably lots of financial power and control over valuable commodities (alum was crucial for making colorful cloth).</p></li></ul><p>But why push for a new art style? And why this one?</p><h1>Florence Style</h1><p>Power was conveyed through architecture. The Arte della Lana guild wanted to show its power in the city, and to other cities. Remember, there are dozens of city-states in Northern Italy, the competition was brutal! They had to stand out, establish themselves as the most successful, so they could have status and gain more business. That&#8217;s why they invested in Santa Maria del Fiore. But that cathedral is not yet Renaissance! It starts as a mix of Gothic and local Tuscan style. So what is the Renaissance style, and why does it appear here?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DLFx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F912fb2c1-8dad-4273-ad25-26c510969ac0_1600x867.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DLFx!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F912fb2c1-8dad-4273-ad25-26c510969ac0_1600x867.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DLFx!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F912fb2c1-8dad-4273-ad25-26c510969ac0_1600x867.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DLFx!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F912fb2c1-8dad-4273-ad25-26c510969ac0_1600x867.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DLFx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F912fb2c1-8dad-4273-ad25-26c510969ac0_1600x867.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DLFx!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F912fb2c1-8dad-4273-ad25-26c510969ac0_1600x867.png" width="1200" height="650.25" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/912fb2c1-8dad-4273-ad25-26c510969ac0_1600x867.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:867,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DLFx!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F912fb2c1-8dad-4273-ad25-26c510969ac0_1600x867.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DLFx!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F912fb2c1-8dad-4273-ad25-26c510969ac0_1600x867.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DLFx!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F912fb2c1-8dad-4273-ad25-26c510969ac0_1600x867.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DLFx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F912fb2c1-8dad-4273-ad25-26c510969ac0_1600x867.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Although the Milanese cathedral is called Duomo, it has no dome (duomo comes from domus, house, for house of God). Also, although it&#8217;s mainly a Gothic cathedral, it took six centuries to complete so it mixed many styles. The Duomo is taller than the fa&#231;ade of St Peter&#8217;s Basilica, although St Peter&#8217;s dome is taller. I couldn&#8217;t convey the height of both the fa&#231;ade and the dome because of the perspective (pictures taken at ground level), so I had to choose which one to convey, and I thought the fa&#231;ade was the right one.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-western-religion-drove-its-architectural">As we saw previously</a>, the impetus behind Gothic was to go as high as possible, to reach the heavens. This pushed the boundaries of architectural technology of the time: verticality, pointed arches, rib vaults, flying buttresses, detailed decoration for mysticism, and stained glass were the methods, and I think the goal was clearly achieved.</p><p>In the Renaissance, the idea was to go back to the wisdom of the more powerful ancient Roman Empire. Studying it, architects realized they followed some rules, and they decided to decode them and apply them. They decided that space should be graspable, measured, balanced, and ordered as a coherent whole. They did that by going back to columns, round arch, domes, volumes, horizontality, visual legibility, proportions, and a return to hard-coded classicism.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k1wL!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5fee56e-0603-49fc-b8d7-9c346bbf68aa_1600x897.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset image2-full-screen"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k1wL!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5fee56e-0603-49fc-b8d7-9c346bbf68aa_1600x897.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The love for proportion and precision could also be seen in small details like these:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gEg_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F19ca31ff-578d-4fd4-915b-98518e371180_1420x2048.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gEg_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F19ca31ff-578d-4fd4-915b-98518e371180_1420x2048.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Fa&#231;ade of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Maria_Novella">Santa Maria Novella</a>, Florence</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Lines, squares, circles, crosses, mathematical curves&#8230; These textures are beautiful.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iZMG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F988b813b-609e-4329-8f68-44a34fa19598_1600x1066.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iZMG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F988b813b-609e-4329-8f68-44a34fa19598_1600x1066.png" width="1600" height="1066" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/988b813b-609e-4329-8f68-44a34fa19598_1600x1066.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1066,&quot;width&quot;:1600,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Detail of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Maria_Novella">Santa Maria Novella</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Of course, Rome and the popes <em>loved</em> the new architectural style based on their own city, so they funded and promoted it. They realized that Rome was a pile of ruins, but if they could rebuild it and make it even more beautiful, their power would radiate across Christendom. This is why Vatican City&#8217;s St Peter&#8217;s Basilica is of the Renaissance style, for example, and why the Renaissance became huge in general.</p><h3>A Change in the Reason behind Architectural Innovation</h3><p>OK here&#8217;s my ignorant and probably unpopular opinion: Renaissance churches are beautiful but&#8230; underwhelming?</p><p>With Gothic, society had a clear goal: Convey their love of God by reaching upward and pushing the technological boundaries to make it happen.</p><p>The great thing that Renaissance does is rediscover domes, which are objectively awesome. It also recovered the pendentives (which were Eastern Roman, not from Rome&#8230;), and made proportions explicit. But does that mean you have to adopt all the other Roman stuff, too? Why go back to columns and rounded arches, when we&#8217;ve seen <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-western-religion-drove-its-architectural">they&#8217;re objectively inferior</a>, since they can only allow smaller spaces? Why go for horizontality, an architectural feeling that was already so pervasive in cities because houses were not tall? Why pretend an obsession with order that your predecessor didn&#8217;t have, when in fact Gothic architecture had a similar order that you just couldn&#8217;t read?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d6op!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F24fc8233-146b-4a7b-8eeb-73fe3f40c877_1600x604.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d6op!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F24fc8233-146b-4a7b-8eeb-73fe3f40c877_1600x604.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://geometriesofcreation.lib.uiowa.edu/architecture/the-renaissance-myth-of-gothic-license/">Source</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>It feels like the Renaissance was trying too hard to define its path <em>in opposition to what came before.</em></p><p>&#8220;Gothic&#8221; litearlly means from the Goths&#8212;the Franks and the Germans on the other side of the Alps. That style was born in France and spread to Germany. It makes sense that Florence, <em>allied to <strong>Rome</strong> and against the <strong>German</strong> HRE</em>, would define itself in opposition to that by getting inspiration from ancient Roman architecture. Of course, a city that is managed by merchants wants to define itself in opposition to pure religious piety too. But when you define yourself by opposition to others, how strong are your values?</p><p><a href="https://paulgraham.com/brandage.html">It&#8217;s a bit like</a> how Swiss handwatches tried hard to become precise and thin, and once the Japanese figured out how to do that better, most Swiss watchmakers went bankrupt and the few that recovered (and soared) did so not because their watches were better (not more precise, nor thinner), but because their cost and elaborate shapes became symbols of status.</p><p>This is the first time in all the architectural styles we&#8217;ve observed that the innovations are not done to improve, but just to be different.</p><h3>Renaissance Outside of Churches</h3><p>Renaissance really shines outside of churches for me. Before, it seems like most architecture of beauty was concentrated into churches, but now it appears everywhere. Compare Florence&#8217;s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palazzo_Vecchio">Palazzo Vecchio</a>, built around 1300 just before the Renaissance, with the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palazzo_Medici_Riccardi">Medici-Riccardi</a>, built around 1450, during the explosion of Renaissance in Florence:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bLXU!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F116eb4a5-a8b2-4aea-b60c-7e1166ab8abd_1600x897.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bLXU!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F116eb4a5-a8b2-4aea-b60c-7e1166ab8abd_1600x897.png 424w, 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Still strong, but now the round arches with voussoirs on top make them taller and much more conspicuous. There are more, bigger windows,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-12" href="#footnote-12" target="_self">12</a> external decorated marks for each floor, the roof overhang is now beautifully decorated, dimensions feel harmonious&#8230;</p><p>And I think this becomes even stronger when you have several houses following this style, even when some of them mix with other styles.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EAWB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F57820104-f14f-4b93-9d0a-8e6f56fe0963_1600x1102.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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ground-breaking figure of accounting; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piero_della_Francesca">Piero della Francesca</a> emphasized the divine proportions; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibonacci">Fibonacci</a><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-13" href="#footnote-13" target="_self">13</a> discovered the Fibonacci sequence and popularized Indian numerals; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei">Galileo</a> the astronomer defended heliocentrism against the church; Botticelli, Boccaccio, and the aforementioned Michelangelo, the Medici, Da Vinci, Petrarch, Donatello, Raphael, Brunelleschi&#8230;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Made with nanobanana</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>And now we know what the Renaissance is, and why it started in Florence:</p><ul><li><p>Because of the mountainous terrain, the Alps, and the length of the Italian Peninsula, Northern Italy was distant from foreign centers of power, which gave them autonomy, especially given the contest between the HRE and the Church.</p></li><li><p>Northern Italy was rich because it was at the right spot in the Mediterranean, so it was the marketplace for Europe, the Middle East, and North Africa.</p></li><li><p>It also has highly fertile valleys, so the population grew fast.</p></li><li><p>A big share of that population was urban, which means network effects, more industry, trade, and money.</p></li><li><p>Within this region, Florence was rich as a crossroads between Rome and Northern Italy. It developed a wool industry, and from there other industries, including finance.</p></li><li><p>It was close enough from Rome to get its patronage, but not too close to be absorbed by it.</p></li><li><p>It was lucky to be on the winning side of the war between the Church and the HRE, and got a massive boost when the Church won, with financial and mining monopolies.</p></li><li><p>It was close enough to Rome to gain inspiration from Ancient Rome and be able to study it.</p></li></ul><p>Once Florence had the money and the independence to go beyond the daily focus on war and survival, it could use the example of Rome to study it and replicate it. This meant massive investments in architecture, art, and all types of studies of Ancient Rome. This created a critical mass of thinkers who learned from each other, creating an explosion of knowledge across the disciplines.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/why-florence-started-the-renaissance?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/why-florence-started-the-renaissance?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p>In many regards, this reminds me of what I witnessed in Silicon Valley in the nearly 15 years I spent there: an incredible concentration of intelligent, ambitious people, all focused on pushing the boundaries of one new technology&#8212;the Internet. It&#8217;s difficult to get these network effects set up. Can San Francisco survive its current downfall? Where will the next Florence emerge? What type of endeavor can justify the massive investments that are concentrated in one place, to attract geniuses from everywhere? Can Dubai do it, or does it not have enough of a mission? Shenzhen fits the definition. Is it limited to manufacturing, or will it bleed into other types of innovation? What do you think?</p><div><hr></div><p><em>This type of article takes blood and sweat, and they don&#8217;t leave me much more time to do other things. But I want to do even better ones! And more of them! Across more media! I hope you saw the video at the top. I want to do more of that too! But I can&#8217;t do this alone. So I am going to hire a team to help me research, write, and publish more articles, convert this content into videos, audio, and podcasts, translate them, make tools to make them interactive, and much more. But I can only do that if you help me pay for it. If you like articles like this one and you want to see more, I need you to fund it. </em></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>Please become a premium subscriber!</em></p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>This claim sounded crazy to me, so I looked into it. The Florentine Duomo, built in 1436, apparently remained the biggest dome in the world for 450 years, until 1871, when it was <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_domes">replaced</a> by the Royal Albert Hall dome. But all modern domes use steel somehow, either directly or as reinforced concrete. Brunelleschi&#8217;s Duomo in Florence doesn&#8217;t, it&#8217;s just masonry: a series of construction elements bound with mortar and working by compression.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>Architectural ribs, not those in his body. More details <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-western-religion-drove-its-architectural">here</a>.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>Arezzo was absorbed into Florence soon after, in the 1380s.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>Apparently it was already in circulation, and the original architect of Santa Maria del Fiore was inspired by it, but this rediscovery made its knowledge widespread.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>The 3<sup>rd</sup> and 4<sup>th</sup> turtles. You didn&#8217;t think I had forgotten, did you? Although born in Urbino, Raphael became deeply connected with Florentine artistic circles before moving to Rome. Michelangelo was born in the Florentine village of Caprese.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>There&#8217;s a <a href="https://www.250bpm.com/p/ada-palmer-inventing-the-renaissance">fantastic write-up</a> from Martin Sustrik about Ada Palmer&#8217;s class on Italian politics of the time. The gist of it is that this class puts the students in the skin of different characters, and they role-play the history, which is the closest thing we have to having randomized controlled tests in history, and what it finds is that some outcomes always happen, but some others change, and the details are always different. This is strong support for the theory that big parts of history are predetermined.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>With Western countries like Castile, Portugal, Aragon, France, and England emerging. Flanders was part of the Holy Roman Empire and/or France depending on the moment. It&#8217;s in the area where France, the HRE, and the Hanseatic League overlap. I mean the HRE &#8220;in general&#8221; as it controlled Flanders, and many parts of HRE were rich, but not all.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>I think the wool trade has not received the attention it deserves. It accounted for a massive share of GDP&#8212;I believe it was the second biggest industry after food. I hope to tackle it some day. If you know good sources, LMK.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>Siena was closer to Rome than Florence, so it felt the Papal power more strongly. It made sense for it to oppose Rome, in hopes of the distant HRE suppressing Rome, which would have given Siena more autonomy.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Alum is a mordant, meaning it creates a chemical &#8220;bridge&#8221; between dye molecules and the fibre. There were no alum mines in Europe; it was all provided by the Ottomans in the 1400s, until an alum mine was discovered near Rome, in the Papal States. The Popes gave their mining rights to the Medici.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>It had to be though because it wasn&#8217;t safe at the time.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-12" href="#footnote-anchor-12" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">12</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>Notice we&#8217;re still not very secure, as the windows had ironwork to fend off criminals.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-13" href="#footnote-anchor-13" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">13</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>From neighboring Pisa, which became part of Florence-controlled Tuscany.</em></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[How Western Religion Drove Its Architectural Evolution]]></title><description><![CDATA[After the Romans fell, the Byzantines took the witness and continued improving its architecture, while in the West architecture tech was lost, and rebuilt with Romanesque & Gothic]]></description><link>https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-western-religion-drove-its-architectural</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-western-religion-drove-its-architectural</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomas Pueyo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2026 17:17:42 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!F3XG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd2dde09-a343-4702-abb1-71fc00836687_1080x688.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We saw <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-roman-technology-drove-its-architecture">in the previous article</a> how the Romans developed the voussoir, barrel and groin vaults, domes, cement, plumbing, and heating to allow for space and comfort in their many buildings. 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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[How Roman Technology Drove Its Architecture]]></title><description><![CDATA[The Romans had 3 architecture problems they wanted to solve: bigger indoor spaces, building faster and cheaper, and more indoor comfort. How did they solve them?]]></description><link>https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-roman-technology-drove-its-architecture</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-roman-technology-drove-its-architecture</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomas Pueyo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2026 13:05:25 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AG9m!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F327a940b-ceea-4199-8dea-3a8c12a2d7dd_800x533.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geography has dramatically influenced architecture, but another force might have been even more important: technology. How has technology shaped architecture and our living spaces?</p><p>We&#8217;re going to answer this question today through a trip to the Roman Empire: What problems did the Romans try to solve? How did that influence the architecture that we know today?</p><p>In the next few articles, we&#8217;re going to explore successive architectural styles: Byzantine, Islamic, Romanesque, Gothic, Renaissance, Baroque, Rococo, Neoclassical, Historicist, Revival, Modernist, Contemporary&#8230; In the process, we&#8217;re going to see how geography, culture, and technology have interacted to drive architecture. </p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>Subscribe to get them:</em></p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h1>The Architectural Problems the Romans Inherited</h1><p>The Romans learned most of their architecture from the Greeks, and some from the local Etruscans. Here, the Hera II Paestum in southern Italy:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nrjF!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb874e75e-7aa7-47a9-a01d-7a062d4185a9_2048x1450.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nrjF!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb874e75e-7aa7-47a9-a01d-7a062d4185a9_2048x1450.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nrjF!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb874e75e-7aa7-47a9-a01d-7a062d4185a9_2048x1450.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nrjF!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb874e75e-7aa7-47a9-a01d-7a062d4185a9_2048x1450.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nrjF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb874e75e-7aa7-47a9-a01d-7a062d4185a9_2048x1450.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nrjF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb874e75e-7aa7-47a9-a01d-7a062d4185a9_2048x1450.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/b874e75e-7aa7-47a9-a01d-7a062d4185a9_2048x1450.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;normal&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:1450,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:0,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nrjF!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb874e75e-7aa7-47a9-a01d-7a062d4185a9_2048x1450.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nrjF!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb874e75e-7aa7-47a9-a01d-7a062d4185a9_2048x1450.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nrjF!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb874e75e-7aa7-47a9-a01d-7a062d4185a9_2048x1450.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nrjF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb874e75e-7aa7-47a9-a01d-7a062d4185a9_2048x1450.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>This would have had a roof, and the inner colonnade would have been enclosed. But it&#8217;s a Greek temple in southern Italy, near Naples, because the Greeks colonized this area.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>But this type of structure has two big problems that didn&#8217;t fit Roman goals:</p><ol><li><p>The indoor part is too small to hold an event. The system of vertical columns with horizontal lintels was too heavy to allow for big indoor spaces.</p></li></ol><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GpZH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbda65c1a-6c4d-4318-bd8c-0f71b921efc3_1310x1310.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GpZH!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbda65c1a-6c4d-4318-bd8c-0f71b921efc3_1310x1310.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GpZH!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbda65c1a-6c4d-4318-bd8c-0f71b921efc3_1310x1310.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GpZH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbda65c1a-6c4d-4318-bd8c-0f71b921efc3_1310x1310.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GpZH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbda65c1a-6c4d-4318-bd8c-0f71b921efc3_1310x1310.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GpZH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbda65c1a-6c4d-4318-bd8c-0f71b921efc3_1310x1310.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/bda65c1a-6c4d-4318-bd8c-0f71b921efc3_1310x1310.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;normal&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:1310,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:0,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GpZH!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbda65c1a-6c4d-4318-bd8c-0f71b921efc3_1310x1310.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GpZH!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbda65c1a-6c4d-4318-bd8c-0f71b921efc3_1310x1310.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GpZH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbda65c1a-6c4d-4318-bd8c-0f71b921efc3_1310x1310.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GpZH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbda65c1a-6c4d-4318-bd8c-0f71b921efc3_1310x1310.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>The weight of the lintel bends it downwards. Columns must be numerous to avoid collapse. Technically, stone is good at compression, so the columns do the heavy lifting and are stable. But stone is really weak in tension, so it bends under its own weight.</em></figcaption></figure></div><ol><li><p>They&#8217;re expensive to make. If you want to build many civic buildings (temples, forum, baths, basilica, market, theater, bridges, aqueducts, walls, gates&#8230;) across many cities in the empire, it&#8217;s hard to replicate this design: It requires too much stone that might be scarce, or skilled craftsmen to cut, carry, and assemble the stone.</p></li></ol><p>There&#8217;s a third problem that Romans wanted to solve: comfort in private homes. They wanted the entire city, including many residences, to have running water, drainage, and heat.</p><h1>The Key Roman Technologies for Architecture</h1><p>Romans adopted a few technologies that allowed them to increase indoor spaces. One is the voussoir arch.</p><h3>Voussoir</h3><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Mss2!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F182c8e38-acac-4c38-8107-a7616836fc49_2048x1263.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Mss2!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F182c8e38-acac-4c38-8107-a7616836fc49_2048x1263.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Mss2!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F182c8e38-acac-4c38-8107-a7616836fc49_2048x1263.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Mss2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F182c8e38-acac-4c38-8107-a7616836fc49_2048x1263.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Mss2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F182c8e38-acac-4c38-8107-a7616836fc49_2048x1263.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Mss2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F182c8e38-acac-4c38-8107-a7616836fc49_2048x1263.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/182c8e38-acac-4c38-8107-a7616836fc49_2048x1263.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;normal&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:1263,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:0,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Mss2!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F182c8e38-acac-4c38-8107-a7616836fc49_2048x1263.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Mss2!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F182c8e38-acac-4c38-8107-a7616836fc49_2048x1263.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Mss2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F182c8e38-acac-4c38-8107-a7616836fc49_2048x1263.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Mss2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F182c8e38-acac-4c38-8107-a7616836fc49_2048x1263.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Corbeled arches already existed, and they were a bit better than the post and lintel approach at spanning wide openings without a single heavy beam. But the voussoir arch was even better, allowing for bigger arches. </em></figcaption></figure></div><p>The voussoir arch transfers weight sideways, preventing collapse and allowing a much wider space between columns.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Cr10!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8cfbc3f9-10e9-4fc1-ac3e-bf06da600069_1078x1598.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Cr10!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8cfbc3f9-10e9-4fc1-ac3e-bf06da600069_1078x1598.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Cr10!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8cfbc3f9-10e9-4fc1-ac3e-bf06da600069_1078x1598.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Cr10!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8cfbc3f9-10e9-4fc1-ac3e-bf06da600069_1078x1598.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Cr10!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8cfbc3f9-10e9-4fc1-ac3e-bf06da600069_1078x1598.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Cr10!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8cfbc3f9-10e9-4fc1-ac3e-bf06da600069_1078x1598.png" width="324" height="480.28942486085344" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8cfbc3f9-10e9-4fc1-ac3e-bf06da600069_1078x1598.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1598,&quot;width&quot;:1078,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:324,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Cr10!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8cfbc3f9-10e9-4fc1-ac3e-bf06da600069_1078x1598.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Cr10!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8cfbc3f9-10e9-4fc1-ac3e-bf06da600069_1078x1598.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Cr10!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8cfbc3f9-10e9-4fc1-ac3e-bf06da600069_1078x1598.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Cr10!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8cfbc3f9-10e9-4fc1-ac3e-bf06da600069_1078x1598.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>One can say that the voussoir arch converts tension into compression. The voussoirs (wedge-shaped stones) are compressed against each other, transferring their weight to the columns.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>The Romans <a href="https://academic.oup.com/book/61689/chapter-abstract/540990895">didn&#8217;t invent either of these arches</a>; they took them from the Etruscans, who probably took them from around the Mediterranean (Mesopotamia and Egypt). But the Romans perfected them.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dlug!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8deac9ac-c87e-4ee8-868d-9d2ddd69fcdd_2048x729.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dlug!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8deac9ac-c87e-4ee8-868d-9d2ddd69fcdd_2048x729.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dlug!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8deac9ac-c87e-4ee8-868d-9d2ddd69fcdd_2048x729.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dlug!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8deac9ac-c87e-4ee8-868d-9d2ddd69fcdd_2048x729.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dlug!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8deac9ac-c87e-4ee8-868d-9d2ddd69fcdd_2048x729.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dlug!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8deac9ac-c87e-4ee8-868d-9d2ddd69fcdd_2048x729.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8deac9ac-c87e-4ee8-868d-9d2ddd69fcdd_2048x729.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:729,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dlug!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8deac9ac-c87e-4ee8-868d-9d2ddd69fcdd_2048x729.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dlug!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8deac9ac-c87e-4ee8-868d-9d2ddd69fcdd_2048x729.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dlug!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8deac9ac-c87e-4ee8-868d-9d2ddd69fcdd_2048x729.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dlug!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8deac9ac-c87e-4ee8-868d-9d2ddd69fcdd_2048x729.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Babylonians already had voussoir arches, but they hadn&#8217;t used them to their full potential. Etruscans did.</em></figcaption></figure></div><h3>Barrel &amp; Groin Vaults</h3><p>If you take an arch and extend it along a corridor, you get the barrel vault. Again, this already existed around the Mediterranean, but not extensively, and the barrel vault is quite limited to single corridors anyway. The Romans learned to combine two of these into <em>groin vaults</em>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q9cO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca6b1359-4955-456a-a82d-cda2fea30566_567x234.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q9cO!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca6b1359-4955-456a-a82d-cda2fea30566_567x234.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q9cO!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca6b1359-4955-456a-a82d-cda2fea30566_567x234.png 848w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q9cO!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca6b1359-4955-456a-a82d-cda2fea30566_567x234.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q9cO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca6b1359-4955-456a-a82d-cda2fea30566_567x234.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q9cO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca6b1359-4955-456a-a82d-cda2fea30566_567x234.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://br.pinterest.com/pin/818388563508737420/">Source</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>You can see the type of result that arises from this as you scale it:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2cNh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7d8deb88-dec6-45c3-8ff1-ebcaae5428e4_2047x1452.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2cNh!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7d8deb88-dec6-45c3-8ff1-ebcaae5428e4_2047x1452.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2cNh!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7d8deb88-dec6-45c3-8ff1-ebcaae5428e4_2047x1452.png 848w, 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stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>You can clearly see these early irregular groin vaults. Suddenly, huge interior spaces are possible. Markets of Trajan, Rome, c. 106&#8211;12 C.E. Photo: Steven Zucker, CC BY-NC-SA 2.0</em></figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DHrF!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ec9b928-e2ea-43f4-8cdb-3128b8913584_2048x1363.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DHrF!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ec9b928-e2ea-43f4-8cdb-3128b8913584_2048x1363.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DHrF!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ec9b928-e2ea-43f4-8cdb-3128b8913584_2048x1363.png 848w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DHrF!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ec9b928-e2ea-43f4-8cdb-3128b8913584_2048x1363.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DHrF!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ec9b928-e2ea-43f4-8cdb-3128b8913584_2048x1363.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DHrF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ec9b928-e2ea-43f4-8cdb-3128b8913584_2048x1363.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilica_of_Maxentius">Basilica of Maxentius</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><h3>Dome</h3><p>Instead of projecting the arch in a single direction, you can rotate it in a circle and create a dome.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AG9m!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F327a940b-ceea-4199-8dea-3a8c12a2d7dd_800x533.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AG9m!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F327a940b-ceea-4199-8dea-3a8c12a2d7dd_800x533.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AG9m!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F327a940b-ceea-4199-8dea-3a8c12a2d7dd_800x533.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AG9m!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F327a940b-ceea-4199-8dea-3a8c12a2d7dd_800x533.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AG9m!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F327a940b-ceea-4199-8dea-3a8c12a2d7dd_800x533.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AG9m!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F327a940b-ceea-4199-8dea-3a8c12a2d7dd_800x533.png" width="1200" height="799.5" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/327a940b-ceea-4199-8dea-3a8c12a2d7dd_800x533.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:533,&quot;width&quot;:800,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AG9m!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F327a940b-ceea-4199-8dea-3a8c12a2d7dd_800x533.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AG9m!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F327a940b-ceea-4199-8dea-3a8c12a2d7dd_800x533.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AG9m!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F327a940b-ceea-4199-8dea-3a8c12a2d7dd_800x533.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AG9m!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F327a940b-ceea-4199-8dea-3a8c12a2d7dd_800x533.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>The Romans are not without their cosmological influence. There are five horizontal rows of coffers. These represent the five planets known to the Romans at the time (Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars and Jupiter). There are 28 vertical columns of coffers, days equal to a lunar cycle, representing the moon. The sun, the moon, and the five planets are all represented as a smaller iteration of the universe, a microcosm.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Rome&#8217;s Pantheon, with a span of over 43m, was the largest dome in the world for 1,300 years! And you can see the transition from Greek to Roman style when you view it from outside:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8ljI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5a91049-eb38-4615-872a-4460bfdbecf8_2048x1366.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8ljI!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5a91049-eb38-4615-872a-4460bfdbecf8_2048x1366.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8ljI!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5a91049-eb38-4615-872a-4460bfdbecf8_2048x1366.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8ljI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5a91049-eb38-4615-872a-4460bfdbecf8_2048x1366.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8ljI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5a91049-eb38-4615-872a-4460bfdbecf8_2048x1366.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8ljI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5a91049-eb38-4615-872a-4460bfdbecf8_2048x1366.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d5a91049-eb38-4615-872a-4460bfdbecf8_2048x1366.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;normal&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:1366,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:0,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8ljI!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5a91049-eb38-4615-872a-4460bfdbecf8_2048x1366.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8ljI!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5a91049-eb38-4615-872a-4460bfdbecf8_2048x1366.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8ljI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5a91049-eb38-4615-872a-4460bfdbecf8_2048x1366.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8ljI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5a91049-eb38-4615-872a-4460bfdbecf8_2048x1366.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Remember that the Greeks had built their temples to be seen primarily from the outside. The Romans kept that spirit by conserving the front colonnade, frieze, and pediment. But they replaced the temple&#8217;s back with the huge dome, forming a shape that, with historical perspective, is kind of awkward.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Imagine that you come from a Greek world where virtually all social life happened outdoors, and suddenly you can create these huge indoor spaces that had never existed before. Big events and social life can now happen indoors!</p><h3>Cement</h3><p>Notice, though, that neither the dome nor the groin vaults from before are solely made of stone. They require a lot of <em>cement</em>.</p><p>Like the previous technological improvements, cement already existed before the Romans: It was made through a process that took limestone, changed its chemistry to reshape it, and then reconverted it into limestone.</p><p>Yes, cement used to be basically limestone: Both were calcium carbonate, CaCO<sub>3</sub>. When heated, CO<sub>2</sub> is released and what is left is quicklime, CaO. Add water, it becomes slaked lime Ca(OH)<sub>2</sub>. Now wait for long enough, and it will capture some CO<sub>2</sub> from the air and eject the water, creating CaCO<sub>3</sub> again. The problem with this is that it takes a long time, and you can&#8217;t have much water around or your slaked lime will not dry out.</p><p>If you add sand to the cement, you get mortar. Add stones to the mortar, and you get concrete. Previous civilizations used mortar and concrete, but not as much as the Romans, because their version was weaker for building, longer to set, and couldn&#8217;t be done around water.</p><p>The Romans were lucky to discover that mixing the lime with volcanic ash (<em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pozzolana">pozzolana</a></em>, very common<em> </em>around Naples, added silicon and aluminium to the mix) made a much stronger cement that could even set under water, and became stronger with time rather than weaker. The Romans mixed elements in such a way that cement could actually heal over time, something <a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.add1602">we&#8217;ve only recently understood</a>.</p><blockquote><p><em>There is a kind of powder which from natural causes produces astonishing results. It is found </em>[...]<em> about Mt. Vesuvius. This substance, when mixed with lime and rubble, not only lends strength to buildings of other kinds, but even when piers of it are constructed in the sea, they set hard under water.</em>&#8212;Vitruvius, <a href="https://lexundria.com/vitr/2.6.1/cf">De Architectura, Book 2</a><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></p></blockquote><p>Only with this superglue could the Romans make the dome and the other types of buildings we&#8217;ve seen.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HOpt!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1d41a15a-d536-4cfc-a750-9c3a7c7b76b9_2048x1720.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This is all Roman concrete: Roman cement with sand and aggregate (e.g. sand, stone, pieces of brick&#8230;) that serves as a skeleton. The mix was lighter at the top, with pumice stone (volcanic stone with bubbles in it) and became heavier and heavier as it went down, closer to the walls. The dome width is also thicker towards the bottom.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pWHX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ff8f4ca-f34e-4441-ac3a-e9bbd8c6e87f_2048x1461.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pWHX!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ff8f4ca-f34e-4441-ac3a-e9bbd8c6e87f_2048x1461.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pWHX!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ff8f4ca-f34e-4441-ac3a-e9bbd8c6e87f_2048x1461.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pWHX!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ff8f4ca-f34e-4441-ac3a-e9bbd8c6e87f_2048x1461.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pWHX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ff8f4ca-f34e-4441-ac3a-e9bbd8c6e87f_2048x1461.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pWHX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ff8f4ca-f34e-4441-ac3a-e9bbd8c6e87f_2048x1461.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7ff8f4ca-f34e-4441-ac3a-e9bbd8c6e87f_2048x1461.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;normal&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:1461,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:0,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pWHX!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ff8f4ca-f34e-4441-ac3a-e9bbd8c6e87f_2048x1461.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pWHX!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ff8f4ca-f34e-4441-ac3a-e9bbd8c6e87f_2048x1461.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pWHX!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ff8f4ca-f34e-4441-ac3a-e9bbd8c6e87f_2048x1461.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pWHX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ff8f4ca-f34e-4441-ac3a-e9bbd8c6e87f_2048x1461.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Note the squares throughout: They are coffers, which enabled reduction of material (and hence weight). At the top, a hole further lightened the structure, while also allowing for a beautiful play of light and shadow.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hTMy!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0def8b50-152a-4356-90cc-4fcd0f69f515_1920x1440.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hTMy!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0def8b50-152a-4356-90cc-4fcd0f69f515_1920x1440.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hTMy!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0def8b50-152a-4356-90cc-4fcd0f69f515_1920x1440.png 848w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>You really see the progress when you compare it with what came before:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fOR-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0bef85e-b41f-4ddc-8525-615a52c5fed9_936x1240.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fOR-!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0bef85e-b41f-4ddc-8525-615a52c5fed9_936x1240.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fOR-!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0bef85e-b41f-4ddc-8525-615a52c5fed9_936x1240.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fOR-!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0bef85e-b41f-4ddc-8525-615a52c5fed9_936x1240.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fOR-!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0bef85e-b41f-4ddc-8525-615a52c5fed9_936x1240.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fOR-!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0bef85e-b41f-4ddc-8525-615a52c5fed9_936x1240.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e0bef85e-b41f-4ddc-8525-615a52c5fed9_936x1240.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;normal&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:1240,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:0,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fOR-!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0bef85e-b41f-4ddc-8525-615a52c5fed9_936x1240.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Etruscan <a href="https://www.visittuscany.com/en/attractions/the-etruscan-tomb-of-montagnola/">Tomb of Montagnola</a>. Note the corveled arch (above) and dome (below) instead of voussoir. At the bottom of the dome, the stones were cut and stacked nicely, but the more it went up and curved, the harder it was for the builders to find the right stones, and the more uneven it became. This worked so poorly in comparison to Roman dome construction that a column in the middle was required to support it, and it yielded a very tiny dome! Yes this was very stable (still stands to this day!) <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/1424720167832570/posts/3175835716054331/">Source</a>. More <a href="https://openmedia.yale.edu/projects/iphone/departments/hsar/hsar252/transcript03.html">here</a>.</em></figcaption></figure></div><h3>Wooden Formwork</h3><p>But concrete is a bit liquid; you can&#8217;t just place it in a specific shape. It needs <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formwork">formwork</a>: </em>a frame to hold it until it hardens.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DDN1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F52e2c768-5a44-4b4c-9996-76751637d515_1329x656.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DDN1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F52e2c768-5a44-4b4c-9996-76751637d515_1329x656.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DDN1!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F52e2c768-5a44-4b4c-9996-76751637d515_1329x656.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DDN1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F52e2c768-5a44-4b4c-9996-76751637d515_1329x656.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DDN1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F52e2c768-5a44-4b4c-9996-76751637d515_1329x656.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DDN1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F52e2c768-5a44-4b4c-9996-76751637d515_1329x656.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/52e2c768-5a44-4b4c-9996-76751637d515_1329x656.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;normal&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:656,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:0,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DDN1!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F52e2c768-5a44-4b4c-9996-76751637d515_1329x656.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DDN1!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F52e2c768-5a44-4b4c-9996-76751637d515_1329x656.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DDN1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F52e2c768-5a44-4b4c-9996-76751637d515_1329x656.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DDN1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F52e2c768-5a44-4b4c-9996-76751637d515_1329x656.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Romans used wooden molds, just as we do today, and poured the concrete inside. They used it for everything, from domes to walls to columns.</p><p>With the discoveries of voussoir arches, groin vaults, domes, and cement, building became much easier. Romans didn&#8217;t need to source good stone and even better craftsmen. They could simply crush and transport limestone and brick, mix them with sand, aggregate, and water, pour the result into wooden formwork, and erect their buildings.</p><p>This means construction became much cheaper and easier than in earlier days, giving Romans a solution to their second problem, which meant they could build many more buildings across the empire. Of course, these two things go together: It&#8217;s not like the Romans figured all this out and then started to build. Rather, all this building allowed them to iterate and figure out better and better construction techniques.</p><h1>Civic Buildings</h1><p>Romans built aqueducts to bring drinking water to their cities. Once they could build huge indoor spaces, they could bring water to indoor buildings, and baths became possible.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!213t!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b3404cf-5df4-4784-b899-45b0defd116d_1860x1288.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!213t!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b3404cf-5df4-4784-b899-45b0defd116d_1860x1288.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!213t!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b3404cf-5df4-4784-b899-45b0defd116d_1860x1288.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!213t!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b3404cf-5df4-4784-b899-45b0defd116d_1860x1288.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!213t!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b3404cf-5df4-4784-b899-45b0defd116d_1860x1288.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!213t!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b3404cf-5df4-4784-b899-45b0defd116d_1860x1288.png" width="1200" height="830.7692307692307" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9b3404cf-5df4-4784-b899-45b0defd116d_1860x1288.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:1008,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!213t!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b3404cf-5df4-4784-b899-45b0defd116d_1860x1288.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!213t!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b3404cf-5df4-4784-b899-45b0defd116d_1860x1288.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!213t!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b3404cf-5df4-4784-b899-45b0defd116d_1860x1288.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!213t!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b3404cf-5df4-4784-b899-45b0defd116d_1860x1288.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Diocletian&#8217;s Baths were situated in an indoor space with huge voussoir arches and groin vaults, with water brought from the Aqua Marcia aqueduct. Their transformation into the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Maria_degli_Angeli_e_dei_Martiri">Basilica of St. Mary of the Angels and the Martyrs</a> saved the baths from destruction, so the site can now be visited as a church.</em></figcaption></figure></div><h1>Indoor Architecture</h1><p>Once you start bringing water indoors for baths, you might as well start bringing water to other buildings, including private ones. This requires channeling water through small tubes in walls. But with what type of material? As we saw in <em><a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-ancient-metals-started-civilization">How Ancient Metals Started Civilization</a></em>, Romans had way too much lead from their silver mining, and lead is easy to work with, so they built their plumbing with it. <em>Plumbing</em> comes from <em>plumbum</em>, Latin for lead.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UAj0!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F94f89b83-5bc9-4414-bdf8-7ea3bb875b94_250x370.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UAj0!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F94f89b83-5bc9-4414-bdf8-7ea3bb875b94_250x370.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UAj0!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F94f89b83-5bc9-4414-bdf8-7ea3bb875b94_250x370.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UAj0!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F94f89b83-5bc9-4414-bdf8-7ea3bb875b94_250x370.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UAj0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F94f89b83-5bc9-4414-bdf8-7ea3bb875b94_250x370.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UAj0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F94f89b83-5bc9-4414-bdf8-7ea3bb875b94_250x370.png" 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stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Roman lead pipe</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Moving water requires pressure, so Romans built water towers to store the aqueduct water. Water is generally cold, though, so Romans had to warm it up. They didn&#8217;t just face the challenge of water management, but heat management, too. For that, they needed cauldrons, some fuel, chimneys, all incorporated into the building.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mQDo!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F27cecd18-5be4-467a-903e-81e0845c0fcc_500x300.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mQDo!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F27cecd18-5be4-467a-903e-81e0845c0fcc_500x300.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mQDo!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F27cecd18-5be4-467a-903e-81e0845c0fcc_500x300.png 848w, 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stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://kas.com.tr/en/blog/the-evolution-of-underfloor-heating-systems-from-the-roman-period-to-the-present/">Source</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>And once they did it for the communal baths, they began incorporating it into housing, starting with the rich.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WZhK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ea350cb-82fc-412c-95f5-bb8cdb5a1c75_2048x1148.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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running water, drainage, and heating at scale, by applying the learnings from construction of many public buildings to that of private homes, and by taking advantage of the critically wide availability of lead.</p></li></ul><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-roman-technology-drove-its-architecture?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-roman-technology-drove-its-architecture?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p>What&#8217;s striking about Roman architecture is that a lot of it was extremely practical: They had convenience problems and they wanted to solve them, so they developed the corresponding technology. I always heard that Rome was a civilization of engineers rather than philosophers, but this was the first time it gelled for me. They had the benefit of an empire that kept expanding, so more and more buildings to build meant much more experience through iteration, and more technological development.</p><p>Most other ancient architectures stemmed from a cultural desire that translated into the technological progress that enabled it. We&#8217;ll see those in the next few articles, where we cover the Byzantine, Romanesque, and Gothic architecture. After that, we&#8217;ll examine Renaissance, Baroque, Rococo, Neoclassical, Historicist, Revivalist, Modernist, Contemporary, etc. All, to understand how architecture got where it has, and how we can improve it.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>The rest of the quote is also super interesting: Vitruvius was trying to understand chemically how this could happen.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>My guess is: If the Roman Empire had continued expanding, some of these technologies would have become cheaper and cheaper, and enter the homes of poorer people.</em></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[How Geography Determines Architecture | Asia]]></title><description><![CDATA[Part 2: Asia]]></description><link>https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-geography-determines-architecture-b9f</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-geography-determines-architecture-b9f</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomas Pueyo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2026 16:52:43 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8uoT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb9b5b86f-f43e-48a2-a071-ecad9a12c7bf_1896x3768.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>In <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-geography-determines-architecture">the previous article</a>, we visited Britain, Egypt, and Greece. Today, we&#8217;re going to journey through India, China, and Japan, and see how their different geographies pushed their architectures in different directions compared to those around the Mediterranean and in Britain.</em></p><h1>India</h1><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8uoT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb9b5b86f-f43e-48a2-a071-ecad9a12c7bf_1896x3768.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8uoT!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb9b5b86f-f43e-48a2-a071-ecad9a12c7bf_1896x3768.png 424w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Average monthly rainfall in Southeast Asia (blue is wet).</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>This has determined India&#8217;s architecture. A big chunk of its land (and most of its population) is in the Ganges Valley:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9lje!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ef7c0c1-07e5-4f9b-84ea-a2f7db0e9556_1600x1598.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9lje!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ef7c0c1-07e5-4f9b-84ea-a2f7db0e9556_1600x1598.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9lje!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ef7c0c1-07e5-4f9b-84ea-a2f7db0e9556_1600x1598.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9lje!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ef7c0c1-07e5-4f9b-84ea-a2f7db0e9556_1600x1598.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9lje!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ef7c0c1-07e5-4f9b-84ea-a2f7db0e9556_1600x1598.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9lje!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ef7c0c1-07e5-4f9b-84ea-a2f7db0e9556_1600x1598.png" width="1456" height="1454" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8ef7c0c1-07e5-4f9b-84ea-a2f7db0e9556_1600x1598.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1454,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9lje!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ef7c0c1-07e5-4f9b-84ea-a2f7db0e9556_1600x1598.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9lje!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ef7c0c1-07e5-4f9b-84ea-a2f7db0e9556_1600x1598.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9lje!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ef7c0c1-07e5-4f9b-84ea-a2f7db0e9556_1600x1598.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9lje!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ef7c0c1-07e5-4f9b-84ea-a2f7db0e9556_1600x1598.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>That valley is criss-crossed by the Ganges and its tributaries. When the monsoon floods the rivers, they bring sediment with them to fertilize the land. Water and sediment mean lots of people, and the rivers allow for cheaper trade. So many cities emerged on their riverbanks.</p><p>In the dry season, waters go down tremendously, though. So how do you make sure you can access the river at all times?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TFbQ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ac5532d-8e98-42f0-869c-7775b92ef2a9_1600x1091.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TFbQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ac5532d-8e98-42f0-869c-7775b92ef2a9_1600x1091.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TFbQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ac5532d-8e98-42f0-869c-7775b92ef2a9_1600x1091.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TFbQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ac5532d-8e98-42f0-869c-7775b92ef2a9_1600x1091.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TFbQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ac5532d-8e98-42f0-869c-7775b92ef2a9_1600x1091.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TFbQ!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ac5532d-8e98-42f0-869c-7775b92ef2a9_1600x1091.png" width="1200" height="818.4065934065934" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2ac5532d-8e98-42f0-869c-7775b92ef2a9_1600x1091.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:993,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TFbQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ac5532d-8e98-42f0-869c-7775b92ef2a9_1600x1091.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TFbQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ac5532d-8e98-42f0-869c-7775b92ef2a9_1600x1091.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TFbQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ac5532d-8e98-42f0-869c-7775b92ef2a9_1600x1091.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TFbQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ac5532d-8e98-42f0-869c-7775b92ef2a9_1600x1091.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghat">ghat</a> (steps leading to a body of water) go deep into the river, so that the upper levels reach water during the monsoon, and the lower levels in dry periods. This one is on the Ganges in Varanasi.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>So water in India arrives dramatically, it leaves dramatically; it structures trade, it structures agriculture; it determines good years and bad years; it determines survival. Water cycles mean life and death. So they drive religion, pilgrimages, life and death rites.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q6eb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0849573-9b7a-4a97-9eeb-b8ca31e47939_1600x1062.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q6eb!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0849573-9b7a-4a97-9eeb-b8ca31e47939_1600x1062.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q6eb!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0849573-9b7a-4a97-9eeb-b8ca31e47939_1600x1062.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q6eb!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0849573-9b7a-4a97-9eeb-b8ca31e47939_1600x1062.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q6eb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0849573-9b7a-4a97-9eeb-b8ca31e47939_1600x1062.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q6eb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0849573-9b7a-4a97-9eeb-b8ca31e47939_1600x1062.png" width="1456" height="966" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f0849573-9b7a-4a97-9eeb-b8ca31e47939_1600x1062.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:966,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q6eb!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0849573-9b7a-4a97-9eeb-b8ca31e47939_1600x1062.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q6eb!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0849573-9b7a-4a97-9eeb-b8ca31e47939_1600x1062.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q6eb!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0849573-9b7a-4a97-9eeb-b8ca31e47939_1600x1062.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q6eb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0849573-9b7a-4a97-9eeb-b8ca31e47939_1600x1062.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Mass ritual bathing during the Kumbh Mela, most likely at the confluence of the Ganges River and Yamuna River in Prayagraj</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>In places where water is scarcer, it&#8217;s even more important. So people store it.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u1VQ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05cc439a-77e1-4ad5-a112-13f7da753603_1600x1466.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u1VQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05cc439a-77e1-4ad5-a112-13f7da753603_1600x1466.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u1VQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05cc439a-77e1-4ad5-a112-13f7da753603_1600x1466.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u1VQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05cc439a-77e1-4ad5-a112-13f7da753603_1600x1466.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u1VQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05cc439a-77e1-4ad5-a112-13f7da753603_1600x1466.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u1VQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05cc439a-77e1-4ad5-a112-13f7da753603_1600x1466.png" width="1456" height="1334" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/05cc439a-77e1-4ad5-a112-13f7da753603_1600x1466.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1334,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u1VQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05cc439a-77e1-4ad5-a112-13f7da753603_1600x1466.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u1VQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05cc439a-77e1-4ad5-a112-13f7da753603_1600x1466.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u1VQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05cc439a-77e1-4ad5-a112-13f7da753603_1600x1466.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u1VQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05cc439a-77e1-4ad5-a112-13f7da753603_1600x1466.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chand_Baori">Chand Baori</a>, in the drier Rajasthan (near the Thar desert) is one of the deepest and largest stepwells in India. Built in the 8th-9th century. It has 3500 steps cascading 13 stories deep into a massive tank at the bottom and has been constructed in an upside-down pyramid style.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>If you build storage for water, and water is holy, you end up building a decorated, inverted pyramid.</p><p>But you can only do that when it&#8217;s easy to carve into the ground.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1q89!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F989a4ff3-89b7-417e-8edc-68706582218b_708x615.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1q89!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F989a4ff3-89b7-417e-8edc-68706582218b_708x615.png 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1q89!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F989a4ff3-89b7-417e-8edc-68706582218b_708x615.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1q89!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F989a4ff3-89b7-417e-8edc-68706582218b_708x615.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1q89!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F989a4ff3-89b7-417e-8edc-68706582218b_708x615.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kailasa_Temple,_Ellora">Kailasa Temple</a>, Maharastra</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>There are also temples carved into stone from the ground. They are not built by adding material, but by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_rock-cut_architecture">subtracting</a>. In the case above, it&#8217;s carved inside a mountain from the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deccan_Plateau">Deccan</a>, a massive volcanic plateau made of basalt. It can be extremely hard, but here it has joints and planes that can be exploited for carving.</p><p>As with pyramids, one of the reasons to do this is that it makes the building very bulky, which means temperature will be stable and fresh&#8212;ideal in the scorching heat of India.</p><p>These structures still need to stand, but they&#8217;re heavy, so we see small indoor spaces and lots of columns again.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aBi4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb64c5526-f550-41e6-987e-a79ff29034fe_1600x1039.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Here, they knew about arches and vaults already, so indoor spaces were bigger.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Have you seen this type of video? Same energy.</p><div id="youtube2-Gw4uQANQGMg" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;Gw4uQANQGMg&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/Gw4uQANQGMg?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>This video is from tropical Australia, where extreme weathering by constant rain and heat makes <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laterite">laterite, a certain type of soil</a> that hardens with air. People can make bricks out of it.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KFrW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf014d58-1bd6-4fd4-8f43-ca9556725c2d_968x1492.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KFrW!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf014d58-1bd6-4fd4-8f43-ca9556725c2d_968x1492.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KFrW!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf014d58-1bd6-4fd4-8f43-ca9556725c2d_968x1492.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KFrW!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf014d58-1bd6-4fd4-8f43-ca9556725c2d_968x1492.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KFrW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf014d58-1bd6-4fd4-8f43-ca9556725c2d_968x1492.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KFrW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf014d58-1bd6-4fd4-8f43-ca9556725c2d_968x1492.png" width="452" height="696.6776859504132" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/bf014d58-1bd6-4fd4-8f43-ca9556725c2d_968x1492.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1492,&quot;width&quot;:968,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:452,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KFrW!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf014d58-1bd6-4fd4-8f43-ca9556725c2d_968x1492.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KFrW!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf014d58-1bd6-4fd4-8f43-ca9556725c2d_968x1492.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KFrW!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf014d58-1bd6-4fd4-8f43-ca9556725c2d_968x1492.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KFrW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf014d58-1bd6-4fd4-8f43-ca9556725c2d_968x1492.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Cutting laterite bricks in Angadipuram, India. This type of brick was also used as foundations for Angkor Wat, in Cambodia. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laterite#/media/File:Laterite_quarry,_Angadipuram,_India._C_004.jpg">Source</a>.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>West Bengal, which has lots of this laterite, uses bricks for its temples.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xatx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F470648e0-c5a0-43f4-a625-a3d29a0ba648_1600x1064.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xatx!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F470648e0-c5a0-43f4-a625-a3d29a0ba648_1600x1064.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xatx!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F470648e0-c5a0-43f4-a625-a3d29a0ba648_1600x1064.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xatx!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F470648e0-c5a0-43f4-a625-a3d29a0ba648_1600x1064.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xatx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F470648e0-c5a0-43f4-a625-a3d29a0ba648_1600x1064.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xatx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F470648e0-c5a0-43f4-a625-a3d29a0ba648_1600x1064.png" width="1456" height="968" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/470648e0-c5a0-43f4-a625-a3d29a0ba648_1600x1064.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:968,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xatx!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F470648e0-c5a0-43f4-a625-a3d29a0ba648_1600x1064.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xatx!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F470648e0-c5a0-43f4-a625-a3d29a0ba648_1600x1064.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xatx!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F470648e0-c5a0-43f4-a625-a3d29a0ba648_1600x1064.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xatx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F470648e0-c5a0-43f4-a625-a3d29a0ba648_1600x1064.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temples_of_Bishnupur#/media/File:Jod_Bangla_Terracotta_Temple,_Bishnupur,_West_Bengal.jpg">Source</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>The result of these types of stone (laterite, sandstone, limestone, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soapstone">soapstone</a>&#8230;) is that it&#8217;s not strong enough to create big indoor spaces without arches, but carving is easy, so decorations are extreme.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ugHG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64b5066d-3faf-49d4-98a3-8fcbeaa2bd6e_1600x895.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Notice the similarities with Egypt? Except this type of stone is even easier to carve.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>You combine these elements, and you get things like the inverted temple stepwell of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rani_ki_Vav">Rani-ki-Vav</a>:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5xTh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e6b9d91-3a1e-4ff7-b9de-1a9b8651987d_1600x1068.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5xTh!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e6b9d91-3a1e-4ff7-b9de-1a9b8651987d_1600x1068.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5xTh!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e6b9d91-3a1e-4ff7-b9de-1a9b8651987d_1600x1068.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5xTh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e6b9d91-3a1e-4ff7-b9de-1a9b8651987d_1600x1068.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5xTh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e6b9d91-3a1e-4ff7-b9de-1a9b8651987d_1600x1068.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5xTh!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e6b9d91-3a1e-4ff7-b9de-1a9b8651987d_1600x1068.png" width="1200" height="801.0989010989011" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6e6b9d91-3a1e-4ff7-b9de-1a9b8651987d_1600x1068.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:972,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5xTh!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e6b9d91-3a1e-4ff7-b9de-1a9b8651987d_1600x1068.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5xTh!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e6b9d91-3a1e-4ff7-b9de-1a9b8651987d_1600x1068.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5xTh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e6b9d91-3a1e-4ff7-b9de-1a9b8651987d_1600x1068.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5xTh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e6b9d91-3a1e-4ff7-b9de-1a9b8651987d_1600x1068.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>However, not all India is like this. In some areas, it rains a lot more:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OJ5A!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1e50cb7-163a-4da6-8a66-75937d084cab_1080x1045.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OJ5A!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1e50cb7-163a-4da6-8a66-75937d084cab_1080x1045.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OJ5A!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1e50cb7-163a-4da6-8a66-75937d084cab_1080x1045.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OJ5A!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1e50cb7-163a-4da6-8a66-75937d084cab_1080x1045.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OJ5A!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1e50cb7-163a-4da6-8a66-75937d084cab_1080x1045.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OJ5A!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1e50cb7-163a-4da6-8a66-75937d084cab_1080x1045.png" width="1080" height="1045" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e1e50cb7-163a-4da6-8a66-75937d084cab_1080x1045.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1045,&quot;width&quot;:1080,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OJ5A!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1e50cb7-163a-4da6-8a66-75937d084cab_1080x1045.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OJ5A!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1e50cb7-163a-4da6-8a66-75937d084cab_1080x1045.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OJ5A!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1e50cb7-163a-4da6-8a66-75937d084cab_1080x1045.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OJ5A!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1e50cb7-163a-4da6-8a66-75937d084cab_1080x1045.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Note the blue on the west coast. It rains a lot there, especially on the southern tip of Kerala. <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/d83yrx/oc_high_resolution_precipitation_map_of_inda/">Source</a>.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>In Kerala, you need tiered slopes on your roofs that carry the water off, and since this is a mountainous area, timber is more available to make those. Since you don&#8217;t want this water to run on the walls, you&#8217;ll add cornices that eject the water out.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!h5_I!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8e35812-7c00-4c39-bf96-5b7093bdad4e_1600x1200.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!h5_I!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8e35812-7c00-4c39-bf96-5b7093bdad4e_1600x1200.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!h5_I!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8e35812-7c00-4c39-bf96-5b7093bdad4e_1600x1200.png 848w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f8e35812-7c00-4c39-bf96-5b7093bdad4e_1600x1200.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1092,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!h5_I!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8e35812-7c00-4c39-bf96-5b7093bdad4e_1600x1200.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!h5_I!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8e35812-7c00-4c39-bf96-5b7093bdad4e_1600x1200.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!h5_I!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8e35812-7c00-4c39-bf96-5b7093bdad4e_1600x1200.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!h5_I!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8e35812-7c00-4c39-bf96-5b7093bdad4e_1600x1200.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architecture_of_Kerala">A traditional house in Kerala</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>But in this area, the climate is very hot and humid, and you want air to circulate all the time to refresh you and to avoid mold, so houses have a central opening.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7jR-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f54c7a6-0c4d-48c4-aa4e-b6e60be837f3_1600x1010.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The <em><a href="https://www.re-thinkingthefuture.com/architectural-community/a14085-vernacular-buildings-and-the-craft-of-living-lessons-from-keralas-nalukettu-homes/">Nalukettu</a></em> was born.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Yd0!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9cd1604-661d-4e50-995e-c2bf0af73ac6_913x618.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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into the ground to protect against temperature swings</p></li><li><p>Where it rains the most, protect your head and your home with slanted roofs, especially with tiered slopes, so that the cascading water doesn&#8217;t accumulate too much energy and make holes in the ground</p></li><li><p>Have an internal courtyard to make sure air circulates well</p></li></ul><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-geography-determines-architecture-b9f?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-geography-determines-architecture-b9f?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><h1>China</h1><p>We see similar patterns in China. In the Loess Plateau, where stone is easy to work, people would carve decorations and homes into the mountain.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4tJV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feedf0858-d021-42c7-a5cd-7a909087b585_1600x897.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4tJV!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feedf0858-d021-42c7-a5cd-7a909087b585_1600x897.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4tJV!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feedf0858-d021-42c7-a5cd-7a909087b585_1600x897.png 848w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/traditional-chinese-siheyuan-courtyard-a18881525cfd4fe882e739c9c7cee752">Source</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>They also have homes around a central courtyard, made to optimize airflow and allow for a central common area.</p><p>Now take this concept and bring it to the mountains, where harder transportation means less communication and trade across valleys, more cultural distance with your neighbors, less political unity, and more conflict. You get the Tulous, semi-fortified community homes with a central courtyard.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!74Vq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ce1aead-d339-4229-92f0-6b5a69d23e39_1600x1062.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!74Vq!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ce1aead-d339-4229-92f0-6b5a69d23e39_1600x1062.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!74Vq!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ce1aead-d339-4229-92f0-6b5a69d23e39_1600x1062.png 848w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0ce1aead-d339-4229-92f0-6b5a69d23e39_1600x1062.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:966,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!74Vq!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ce1aead-d339-4229-92f0-6b5a69d23e39_1600x1062.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!74Vq!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ce1aead-d339-4229-92f0-6b5a69d23e39_1600x1062.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!74Vq!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ce1aead-d339-4229-92f0-6b5a69d23e39_1600x1062.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!74Vq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ce1aead-d339-4229-92f0-6b5a69d23e39_1600x1062.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The Forbidden City, in Beijing, uses the same logic, just on a bigger scale.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3LUA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F545e5ea0-d5e5-4faa-9e70-310e5d518d16_1600x928.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3LUA!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F545e5ea0-d5e5-4faa-9e70-310e5d518d16_1600x928.png 424w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/545e5ea0-d5e5-4faa-9e70-310e5d518d16_1600x928.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:844,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3LUA!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F545e5ea0-d5e5-4faa-9e70-310e5d518d16_1600x928.png 424w, 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stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>We see:</p><ul><li><p>Axial distribution, to wow visitors</p></li><li><p>North-south orientation</p></li><li><p>Walls and a moat, to protect against intruders</p></li><li><p>The closer to the center, the more intimate the dwelling</p></li><li><p>Social courtyards</p></li></ul><p>The nesting from outside to inside is continued through the Imperial City and the Inner City.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ic_D!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff843eb8a-25ae-441e-91eb-11c486af714b_1520x1600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ic_D!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff843eb8a-25ae-441e-91eb-11c486af714b_1520x1600.png" width="556" height="585.4038461538462" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f843eb8a-25ae-441e-91eb-11c486af714b_1520x1600.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1533,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:556,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Unlike in India, however, Chinese architecture stands out for its use of wood:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EG8i!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9891e99-f4a5-4d2d-906c-85b69d270b1b_1600x1202.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EG8i!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9891e99-f4a5-4d2d-906c-85b69d270b1b_1600x1202.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EG8i!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9891e99-f4a5-4d2d-906c-85b69d270b1b_1600x1202.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EG8i!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9891e99-f4a5-4d2d-906c-85b69d270b1b_1600x1202.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EG8i!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9891e99-f4a5-4d2d-906c-85b69d270b1b_1600x1202.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EG8i!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9891e99-f4a5-4d2d-906c-85b69d270b1b_1600x1202.png" width="1456" height="1094" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a9891e99-f4a5-4d2d-906c-85b69d270b1b_1600x1202.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1094,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EG8i!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9891e99-f4a5-4d2d-906c-85b69d270b1b_1600x1202.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EG8i!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9891e99-f4a5-4d2d-906c-85b69d270b1b_1600x1202.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EG8i!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9891e99-f4a5-4d2d-906c-85b69d270b1b_1600x1202.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EG8i!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9891e99-f4a5-4d2d-906c-85b69d270b1b_1600x1202.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagoda_of_Fogong_Temple">Fogong Temple pagoda</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Why so much more wood?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5tQI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5ca42086-8cf4-4808-bb57-6984d323699b_1600x1254.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5tQI!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5ca42086-8cf4-4808-bb57-6984d323699b_1600x1254.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5tQI!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5ca42086-8cf4-4808-bb57-6984d323699b_1600x1254.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5tQI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5ca42086-8cf4-4808-bb57-6984d323699b_1600x1254.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5tQI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5ca42086-8cf4-4808-bb57-6984d323699b_1600x1254.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5tQI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5ca42086-8cf4-4808-bb57-6984d323699b_1600x1254.png" width="1456" height="1141" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5ca42086-8cf4-4808-bb57-6984d323699b_1600x1254.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1141,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5tQI!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5ca42086-8cf4-4808-bb57-6984d323699b_1600x1254.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5tQI!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5ca42086-8cf4-4808-bb57-6984d323699b_1600x1254.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5tQI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5ca42086-8cf4-4808-bb57-6984d323699b_1600x1254.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5tQI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5ca42086-8cf4-4808-bb57-6984d323699b_1600x1254.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>India&#8217;s civilization emerged across the Indus and Ganges River Valleys, which have access to sandstone (e.g. in Rajasthan). It also spread quickly across the Deccan Plateau&#8212;the mountains in the center&#8212;where stone is available, which is very useful to avoid rot and insulate against the heat.</p><p>China originates in the North China Plain, an alluvial plain made by the sediments brought by the Yellow River. This means rock is under a deep layer of soil, hard to reach. But there was a lot of timber here.</p><p>This region is much farther north, so it&#8217;s colder, and timber is better at trapping and storing heat. Also, stone can trap water and break with too many cycles of freezing and thawing (because water takes up more space as ice, and pushes against the stone), but timber is flexible, so it doesn&#8217;t break as easily with these cycles.</p><p>Also, the North China Plain has many more earthquakes than India, and stone is bad for earthquakes since it can&#8217;t flex at all. Stone buildings tend to crumble during earthquakes, while timber ones survive.</p><p>For all these reasons, China used much more timber in its architecture. And that has its own sets of challenges.</p><p>For example, when you&#8217;re making your walls in stone, they can carry the weight of the entire structure. It would be expensive to do the same with timber, so instead, timber architecture tended to have strong wooden columns to carry the weight and light timber for the walls.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MXWe!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9ea7772c-3e4c-40b6-9f38-99d99d1624d5_1600x879.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MXWe!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9ea7772c-3e4c-40b6-9f38-99d99d1624d5_1600x879.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MXWe!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9ea7772c-3e4c-40b6-9f38-99d99d1624d5_1600x879.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MXWe!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9ea7772c-3e4c-40b6-9f38-99d99d1624d5_1600x879.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MXWe!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9ea7772c-3e4c-40b6-9f38-99d99d1624d5_1600x879.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MXWe!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9ea7772c-3e4c-40b6-9f38-99d99d1624d5_1600x879.png" width="1456" height="800" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9ea7772c-3e4c-40b6-9f38-99d99d1624d5_1600x879.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:800,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MXWe!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9ea7772c-3e4c-40b6-9f38-99d99d1624d5_1600x879.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MXWe!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9ea7772c-3e4c-40b6-9f38-99d99d1624d5_1600x879.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MXWe!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9ea7772c-3e4c-40b6-9f38-99d99d1624d5_1600x879.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MXWe!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9ea7772c-3e4c-40b6-9f38-99d99d1624d5_1600x879.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://news.cgtn.com/news/2025-03-29/Foguang-Temple-s-Great-East-Hall-A-Tang-Dynasty-treasure-1C7XjM3YlGM/p.html">Foguang Temple&#8217;s Great East Hall, Tang Dynasty</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Look at the beams, columns, and wooden roof of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanhua_Temple">Shanhua Temple</a>:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xwMj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8cb73fb7-b41a-41c6-9228-000eb60767ab_1600x1066.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xwMj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8cb73fb7-b41a-41c6-9228-000eb60767ab_1600x1066.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xwMj!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8cb73fb7-b41a-41c6-9228-000eb60767ab_1600x1066.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xwMj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8cb73fb7-b41a-41c6-9228-000eb60767ab_1600x1066.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xwMj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8cb73fb7-b41a-41c6-9228-000eb60767ab_1600x1066.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xwMj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8cb73fb7-b41a-41c6-9228-000eb60767ab_1600x1066.png" width="1456" height="970" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8cb73fb7-b41a-41c6-9228-000eb60767ab_1600x1066.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:970,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>One of the positive things about wood, of course, is that it&#8217;s lighter, so indoor spaces could be bigger.</p><p>But you don&#8217;t want your wooden walls to rot, so they should avoid contact with monsoon rains. The answer is a roof with long eaves that allow for a deep overhang:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dnil!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0e7467e-a678-4d41-92ab-4e3983b747d4_1600x1125.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dnil!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0e7467e-a678-4d41-92ab-4e3983b747d4_1600x1125.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dnil!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0e7467e-a678-4d41-92ab-4e3983b747d4_1600x1125.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dnil!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0e7467e-a678-4d41-92ab-4e3983b747d4_1600x1125.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dnil!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0e7467e-a678-4d41-92ab-4e3983b747d4_1600x1125.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dnil!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0e7467e-a678-4d41-92ab-4e3983b747d4_1600x1125.png" width="1200" height="843.9560439560439" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a0e7467e-a678-4d41-92ab-4e3983b747d4_1600x1125.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:1024,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dnil!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0e7467e-a678-4d41-92ab-4e3983b747d4_1600x1125.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dnil!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0e7467e-a678-4d41-92ab-4e3983b747d4_1600x1125.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dnil!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0e7467e-a678-4d41-92ab-4e3983b747d4_1600x1125.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dnil!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0e7467e-a678-4d41-92ab-4e3983b747d4_1600x1125.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>That way, water is ejected far from the wall and doesn&#8217;t touch it. It&#8217;s also why the Chinese roofs are curved, as you can see in the background in this pic. This allows water to run out fast and be projected outwards, farther from the wall.</p><p>Curbing the wood had another advantage: Over long periods of time, gravity makes wood sag downward. So to avoid that, the Chinese curbed wood upward. Once you start doing that, it makes sense to push it for aesthetic purposes, to make the roof &#8220;reach for the sky&#8221;.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4YUo!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F552fdaa1-5ec2-4424-b903-1393c36b1ddf_1600x1067.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4YUo!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F552fdaa1-5ec2-4424-b903-1393c36b1ddf_1600x1067.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4YUo!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F552fdaa1-5ec2-4424-b903-1393c36b1ddf_1600x1067.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4YUo!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F552fdaa1-5ec2-4424-b903-1393c36b1ddf_1600x1067.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4YUo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F552fdaa1-5ec2-4424-b903-1393c36b1ddf_1600x1067.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4YUo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F552fdaa1-5ec2-4424-b903-1393c36b1ddf_1600x1067.png" width="1456" height="971" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/552fdaa1-5ec2-4424-b903-1393c36b1ddf_1600x1067.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:971,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4YUo!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F552fdaa1-5ec2-4424-b903-1393c36b1ddf_1600x1067.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4YUo!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F552fdaa1-5ec2-4424-b903-1393c36b1ddf_1600x1067.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4YUo!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F552fdaa1-5ec2-4424-b903-1393c36b1ddf_1600x1067.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4YUo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F552fdaa1-5ec2-4424-b903-1393c36b1ddf_1600x1067.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Notice what&#8217;s below the roof? That&#8217;s called a <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dougong">dougong</a></em>, and is very typical of Chinese architecture. It&#8217;s to support the weight of the roof. Why?</p><ul><li><p>With big indoor spaces, roofs are heavy.</p></li><li><p>But they can&#8217;t rest on walls like in Europe, because they&#8217;re made of light timber instead of stone. So they must rest on the timber columns.</p></li><li><p>They must support the eaves, which have a deep overhang as we just mentioned.</p></li><li><p>Architects needed a system made of interlocking timber that could be flexible during earthquakes.</p></li></ul><p>The dougong was the solution&#8212;nested brackets that could reach far into the eave to support it.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tE9m!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd501bca6-d8f7-49b9-b49f-6db2141941a2_850x737.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/figure/a-Dougong-brackets-from-China-The-Sakyamuni-Pagoda-of-Fogong-Temple-1056-AD-and_fig4_264972592">Source</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Of course, once you have this type of structure, you might as well decorate it:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4f7f!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b33c40c-6d32-493a-9934-df8ae5e141a6_724x483.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4f7f!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b33c40c-6d32-493a-9934-df8ae5e141a6_724x483.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4f7f!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b33c40c-6d32-493a-9934-df8ae5e141a6_724x483.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4f7f!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b33c40c-6d32-493a-9934-df8ae5e141a6_724x483.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4f7f!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b33c40c-6d32-493a-9934-df8ae5e141a6_724x483.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4f7f!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b33c40c-6d32-493a-9934-df8ae5e141a6_724x483.jpeg" width="1200" height="800.5524861878453" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3b33c40c-6d32-493a-9934-df8ae5e141a6_724x483.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:483,&quot;width&quot;:724,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>And it&#8217;s not just for dougongs. Anything, really. Columns? Roofs? All of it. Because timber is super easy to carve, so it&#8217;s easy to decorate.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Idwf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f727454-f081-45d8-985f-0a9c59bb1773_724x483.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Idwf!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f727454-f081-45d8-985f-0a9c59bb1773_724x483.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Idwf!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f727454-f081-45d8-985f-0a9c59bb1773_724x483.jpeg 848w, 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With minimum effort, virtually all the water is carried out, and none makes it into the structure.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>You might have noticed that there&#8217;s a lot of red in here. That&#8217;s because, after all we&#8217;ve done to protect our wood, it still needs protection from the Sun and rain, so it must be coated. Some of the coats don&#8217;t have much color, but those that did were frequently red, as it&#8217;s the most common dye color that exists. Imperial buildings used the less common cinnabar, which you might associate with opulent traditional Chinese buildings.</p><p>Of course, there are a million other specificities of Chinese architecture, but what I find fascinating about all of this is that so many of these specificities are the result of simple geographic differences&#8212;in the case of China, the widespread use of timber instead of stone.</p><h1>Japan</h1>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[How Geography Determines Architecture]]></title><description><![CDATA[Part 1: Europe & the Mediterranean]]></description><link>https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-geography-determines-architecture</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-geography-determines-architecture</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomas Pueyo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2026 21:57:02 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!F34X!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F47423cff-e99e-4401-9424-a5a3d2549177_1588x1672.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All buildings everywhere are the same&#8212;the International Style.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6xWV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F501e12d8-675f-4592-8f8d-feafe2c42c9e_1600x1064.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6xWV!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F501e12d8-675f-4592-8f8d-feafe2c42c9e_1600x1064.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6xWV!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F501e12d8-675f-4592-8f8d-feafe2c42c9e_1600x1064.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6xWV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F501e12d8-675f-4592-8f8d-feafe2c42c9e_1600x1064.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6xWV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F501e12d8-675f-4592-8f8d-feafe2c42c9e_1600x1064.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6xWV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F501e12d8-675f-4592-8f8d-feafe2c42c9e_1600x1064.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/501e12d8-675f-4592-8f8d-feafe2c42c9e_1600x1064.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6xWV!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F501e12d8-675f-4592-8f8d-feafe2c42c9e_1600x1064.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6xWV!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F501e12d8-675f-4592-8f8d-feafe2c42c9e_1600x1064.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6xWV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F501e12d8-675f-4592-8f8d-feafe2c42c9e_1600x1064.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6xWV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F501e12d8-675f-4592-8f8d-feafe2c42c9e_1600x1064.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Towers of concrete, steel and glass. We mourn for the traditional architectures of yesteryear, without realizing why.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Uncharted Territories is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>Why are these buildings the same everywhere?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!klnE!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48a1ecd3-8b21-41e3-936a-509a7e4d66fd_2048x1498.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!klnE!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48a1ecd3-8b21-41e3-936a-509a7e4d66fd_2048x1498.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!klnE!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48a1ecd3-8b21-41e3-936a-509a7e4d66fd_2048x1498.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!klnE!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48a1ecd3-8b21-41e3-936a-509a7e4d66fd_2048x1498.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!klnE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48a1ecd3-8b21-41e3-936a-509a7e4d66fd_2048x1498.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!klnE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48a1ecd3-8b21-41e3-936a-509a7e4d66fd_2048x1498.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/48a1ecd3-8b21-41e3-936a-509a7e4d66fd_2048x1498.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!klnE!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48a1ecd3-8b21-41e3-936a-509a7e4d66fd_2048x1498.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!klnE!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48a1ecd3-8b21-41e3-936a-509a7e4d66fd_2048x1498.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!klnE!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48a1ecd3-8b21-41e3-936a-509a7e4d66fd_2048x1498.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!klnE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48a1ecd3-8b21-41e3-936a-509a7e4d66fd_2048x1498.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>And why were they so different before? Is it just a matter of globalization, or is there something more?</p><p>Here&#8217;s a little known fact: A lot of the world&#8217;s architecture was the consequence of geography.</p><p>In some cases, it&#8217;s easy to see, such as steep roofs in places with heavy snowfall.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Qui!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab2e1f17-4804-4250-9057-b9db870437dc_2046x1920.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Qui!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab2e1f17-4804-4250-9057-b9db870437dc_2046x1920.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Qui!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab2e1f17-4804-4250-9057-b9db870437dc_2046x1920.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Qui!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab2e1f17-4804-4250-9057-b9db870437dc_2046x1920.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Qui!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab2e1f17-4804-4250-9057-b9db870437dc_2046x1920.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Qui!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab2e1f17-4804-4250-9057-b9db870437dc_2046x1920.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ab2e1f17-4804-4250-9057-b9db870437dc_2046x1920.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Qui!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab2e1f17-4804-4250-9057-b9db870437dc_2046x1920.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Qui!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab2e1f17-4804-4250-9057-b9db870437dc_2046x1920.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Qui!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab2e1f17-4804-4250-9057-b9db870437dc_2046x1920.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Qui!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab2e1f17-4804-4250-9057-b9db870437dc_2046x1920.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Mountain architecture includes steep roofs in areas with heavy snowfall, so that the snow doesn&#8217;t stay on the roof, adding weight and humidity and destroying it. <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/architecture/comments/fweq28/many_churches_and_houses_in_the_blue_ridge_have/#lightbox">Source</a>.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>But the depth of the influence of geography is hard to grasp. So today, we&#8217;re going to take a trip across different world architectures to see how geography influenced them: Egypt, Ancient Greece, India, China, Japan, and Britain. As we do, we&#8217;re not just going to learn why things are the way they are, we&#8217;re also going to understand what elements we could bring back to our architectural styles today.</p><h1>British Stone</h1><p>Here&#8217;s a map of Britain&#8217;s soils, along with some of its most notable architecture.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!F34X!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F47423cff-e99e-4401-9424-a5a3d2549177_1588x1672.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!F34X!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F47423cff-e99e-4401-9424-a5a3d2549177_1588x1672.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The island&#8217;s geology changes strikingly, from oldest in the north to youngest in the south. Every type of stone gave birth to a different type of architecture.</p><p>Aberdeen is famous for its dark granite. We can also find granite in southwest England around Dartmoor, and sure enough, there, homes tend to be made of granite. Edinburgh has sandstone, evident in its sand-colored buildings. Golden limestone is common around Bristol, and old country houses are golden as a result. The soil in the surroundings of London is the result of sediment accumulation, so there&#8217;s much less stone to go around. But there&#8217;s clay, which can be made into bricks. Sure enough, London is full of brick buildings. The chalk in South and East England is too brittle for walls, but use timber frames, fill the wall with twigs, wet soil and straw, and then whitewash it with a solution made with chalk, and these homes can last centuries if well maintained. For the roof, use thatch.</p><p>Once the Industrial Revolution was in full swing, the cheapness of canal and train transportation meant bricks for walls and Welsh slate for roofs could be used everywhere, so they were.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></p><p>So stone is important. But it&#8217;s not all-encompassing. What else matters? Let&#8217;s travel far back in time to Ancient Egypt to figure this out.</p><h1>Ancient Egypt</h1><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1IGT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5643402-0bb1-4712-bf17-c37e2071f389_1430x1406.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1IGT!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5643402-0bb1-4712-bf17-c37e2071f389_1430x1406.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1IGT!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5643402-0bb1-4712-bf17-c37e2071f389_1430x1406.png 848w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>What do these have in common?</p><ol><li><p>Big monuments</p></li><li><p>Bold geometric lines</p></li><li><p>Light brown color</p></li><li><p>Lots of rows of things, notably columns</p></li><li><p>For temples and tombs</p></li></ol><p>Why?</p><p>The Egyptian government always had massive power <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/egypt">because</a> it controlled the Nile and knew how much food it would grow, so it could tax it precisely. The farmers couldn&#8217;t escape because the country is surrounded by desert and sea. So the government was extremely powerful and had lots of resources at its disposal.</p><p>If you want to project power, the best way to do that is to build big things.</p><p>But building technology is not very advanced. If you make a big column of stuff, it falls. How do you build a huge thing so that it doesn&#8217;t break and fall apart? You pile matter into a mountain.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T6Rd!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F022541ed-202e-40fc-8a6f-d872c201053e_2048x1152.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T6Rd!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F022541ed-202e-40fc-8a6f-d872c201053e_2048x1152.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T6Rd!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F022541ed-202e-40fc-8a6f-d872c201053e_2048x1152.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T6Rd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F022541ed-202e-40fc-8a6f-d872c201053e_2048x1152.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T6Rd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F022541ed-202e-40fc-8a6f-d872c201053e_2048x1152.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T6Rd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F022541ed-202e-40fc-8a6f-d872c201053e_2048x1152.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/022541ed-202e-40fc-8a6f-d872c201053e_2048x1152.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T6Rd!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F022541ed-202e-40fc-8a6f-d872c201053e_2048x1152.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T6Rd!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F022541ed-202e-40fc-8a6f-d872c201053e_2048x1152.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T6Rd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F022541ed-202e-40fc-8a6f-d872c201053e_2048x1152.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T6Rd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F022541ed-202e-40fc-8a6f-d872c201053e_2048x1152.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Piles of stuff. This is why pyramids are so common across the world&#8217;s history. Not because of aliens.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Stacked mass is the simplest way to create stable height. That&#8217;s why we find it across the world, not just in Egypt.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Taj6!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35c82e8e-ee7e-4d02-9a76-672d3e9ad60b_1600x1098.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset image2-full-screen"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Taj6!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35c82e8e-ee7e-4d02-9a76-672d3e9ad60b_1600x1098.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Taj6!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35c82e8e-ee7e-4d02-9a76-672d3e9ad60b_1600x1098.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Taj6!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35c82e8e-ee7e-4d02-9a76-672d3e9ad60b_1600x1098.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Taj6!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35c82e8e-ee7e-4d02-9a76-672d3e9ad60b_1600x1098.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Taj6!,w_5760,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35c82e8e-ee7e-4d02-9a76-672d3e9ad60b_1600x1098.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/35c82e8e-ee7e-4d02-9a76-672d3e9ad60b_1600x1098.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;full&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:999,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-fullscreen" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Taj6!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35c82e8e-ee7e-4d02-9a76-672d3e9ad60b_1600x1098.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Taj6!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35c82e8e-ee7e-4d02-9a76-672d3e9ad60b_1600x1098.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Taj6!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35c82e8e-ee7e-4d02-9a76-672d3e9ad60b_1600x1098.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Taj6!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35c82e8e-ee7e-4d02-9a76-672d3e9ad60b_1600x1098.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Stacked mass has another benefit: If you can make an indoor space inside, It protects you from temperature swings because of the thermal mass stored in the stone/dirt.</p><p>But these spaces must be small: All that mass risks collapsing on you. As a result, no grand indoor halls, only small rooms.</p><p>With flat roofs, because why would you slant them? It&#8217;s difficult and expensive, and unnecessary in places with little rain like in Egypt.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GkWM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43810a4e-abdb-4410-a95c-afb64299cf7c_1320x880.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GkWM!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43810a4e-abdb-4410-a95c-afb64299cf7c_1320x880.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GkWM!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43810a4e-abdb-4410-a95c-afb64299cf7c_1320x880.png 848w, 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them.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w8XG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cb9dfc0-51aa-4d0c-a765-170606558397_1600x534.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w8XG!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cb9dfc0-51aa-4d0c-a765-170606558397_1600x534.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w8XG!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cb9dfc0-51aa-4d0c-a765-170606558397_1600x534.png 848w, 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So you&#8217;re going to use your millions of minions to build many rows of these columns. Except how do you coordinate these minions? You need to standardize. 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Notice how it&#8217;s also very <em>axial</em>: Lots of these buildings are constructed along a main line (axis).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yXY5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F78ab2a74-69f4-45e3-8a4c-947243e70f7c_266x689.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yXY5!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F78ab2a74-69f4-45e3-8a4c-947243e70f7c_266x689.png 424w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/78ab2a74-69f4-45e3-8a4c-947243e70f7c_266x689.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:689,&quot;width&quot;:266,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:208,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yXY5!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F78ab2a74-69f4-45e3-8a4c-947243e70f7c_266x689.png 424w, 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These structures tend to be organized along cosmic lines, like cardinal directions, solstices, etc.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qurR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf8bc732-547f-4354-a0f8-d6fab1281d77_1822x1940.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qurR!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf8bc732-547f-4354-a0f8-d6fab1281d77_1822x1940.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qurR!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf8bc732-547f-4354-a0f8-d6fab1281d77_1822x1940.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qurR!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf8bc732-547f-4354-a0f8-d6fab1281d77_1822x1940.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qurR!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf8bc732-547f-4354-a0f8-d6fab1281d77_1822x1940.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qurR!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf8bc732-547f-4354-a0f8-d6fab1281d77_1822x1940.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/af8bc732-547f-4354-a0f8-d6fab1281d77_1822x1940.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qurR!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf8bc732-547f-4354-a0f8-d6fab1281d77_1822x1940.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qurR!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf8bc732-547f-4354-a0f8-d6fab1281d77_1822x1940.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qurR!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf8bc732-547f-4354-a0f8-d6fab1281d77_1822x1940.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qurR!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf8bc732-547f-4354-a0f8-d6fab1281d77_1822x1940.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>If you&#8217;re aligned with the stars, your architecture is cosmic, it has meaning tied to the sun, the moon and the stars, so you as a ruler surely must be cosmically ordained.</p><p>Since you have constructed lots of big buildings and columns, you now have all these surfaces. What can you do with them? Maybe depict your grandiosity and how cozy you are with the gods. And since you have plenty of money and workers available, you can arrange this:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ccE9!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02d32fce-1d80-4b69-adc7-6c761d86444f_2048x1728.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ccE9!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02d32fce-1d80-4b69-adc7-6c761d86444f_2048x1728.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ccE9!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02d32fce-1d80-4b69-adc7-6c761d86444f_2048x1728.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ccE9!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02d32fce-1d80-4b69-adc7-6c761d86444f_2048x1728.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ccE9!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02d32fce-1d80-4b69-adc7-6c761d86444f_2048x1728.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ccE9!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02d32fce-1d80-4b69-adc7-6c761d86444f_2048x1728.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/02d32fce-1d80-4b69-adc7-6c761d86444f_2048x1728.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ccE9!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02d32fce-1d80-4b69-adc7-6c761d86444f_2048x1728.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ccE9!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02d32fce-1d80-4b69-adc7-6c761d86444f_2048x1728.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ccE9!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02d32fce-1d80-4b69-adc7-6c761d86444f_2048x1728.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ccE9!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02d32fce-1d80-4b69-adc7-6c761d86444f_2048x1728.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Why waste a precious wall when you can fill it with marketing messages?</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Notice how there&#8217;s plenty of carving? Stone is normally hard to carve. But not all stone. Most Egyptian architecture is made of limestone and sandstone, which is relatively soft.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zf2S!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F96b0620b-9d7d-456c-a49c-fd7375b293bb_2048x837.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zf2S!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F96b0620b-9d7d-456c-a49c-fd7375b293bb_2048x837.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zf2S!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F96b0620b-9d7d-456c-a49c-fd7375b293bb_2048x837.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zf2S!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F96b0620b-9d7d-456c-a49c-fd7375b293bb_2048x837.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zf2S!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F96b0620b-9d7d-456c-a49c-fd7375b293bb_2048x837.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zf2S!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F96b0620b-9d7d-456c-a49c-fd7375b293bb_2048x837.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/96b0620b-9d7d-456c-a49c-fd7375b293bb_2048x837.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zf2S!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F96b0620b-9d7d-456c-a49c-fd7375b293bb_2048x837.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zf2S!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F96b0620b-9d7d-456c-a49c-fd7375b293bb_2048x837.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zf2S!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F96b0620b-9d7d-456c-a49c-fd7375b293bb_2048x837.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zf2S!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F96b0620b-9d7d-456c-a49c-fd7375b293bb_2048x837.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Why? It&#8217;s what Egypt had available. Carrying big blocks of stone is not easy, so Egyptians mostly quarried them close to the Nile and used the river to transport them.</p><p>And Egypt used to be <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/tethys">a shallow ocean&#8212;Tethys</a>. This is why today it has some of the biggest depressions on Earth, enough to <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/seaflooding">make them into seas again</a>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0GUl!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5a4e922-b67c-49bb-b2b8-c33e27f47112_1600x751.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0GUl!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5a4e922-b67c-49bb-b2b8-c33e27f47112_1600x751.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0GUl!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5a4e922-b67c-49bb-b2b8-c33e27f47112_1600x751.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0GUl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5a4e922-b67c-49bb-b2b8-c33e27f47112_1600x751.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0GUl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5a4e922-b67c-49bb-b2b8-c33e27f47112_1600x751.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0GUl!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5a4e922-b67c-49bb-b2b8-c33e27f47112_1600x751.png" width="1200" height="562.9120879120879" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c5a4e922-b67c-49bb-b2b8-c33e27f47112_1600x751.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:683,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0GUl!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5a4e922-b67c-49bb-b2b8-c33e27f47112_1600x751.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0GUl!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5a4e922-b67c-49bb-b2b8-c33e27f47112_1600x751.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0GUl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5a4e922-b67c-49bb-b2b8-c33e27f47112_1600x751.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0GUl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5a4e922-b67c-49bb-b2b8-c33e27f47112_1600x751.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>As a shallow seabed, it teemed with life, so its floor got covered by those sediments: shells. As they compressed, they became limestone. As sand compressed, it became sandstone. They are both a similar white-brownish color.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zXTG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a654c52-1b89-41eb-b922-071b478cd7ac_1432x1228.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zXTG!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a654c52-1b89-41eb-b922-071b478cd7ac_1432x1228.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zXTG!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a654c52-1b89-41eb-b922-071b478cd7ac_1432x1228.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zXTG!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a654c52-1b89-41eb-b922-071b478cd7ac_1432x1228.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zXTG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a654c52-1b89-41eb-b922-071b478cd7ac_1432x1228.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zXTG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a654c52-1b89-41eb-b922-071b478cd7ac_1432x1228.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4a654c52-1b89-41eb-b922-071b478cd7ac_1432x1228.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zXTG!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a654c52-1b89-41eb-b922-071b478cd7ac_1432x1228.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zXTG!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a654c52-1b89-41eb-b922-071b478cd7ac_1432x1228.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zXTG!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a654c52-1b89-41eb-b922-071b478cd7ac_1432x1228.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zXTG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a654c52-1b89-41eb-b922-071b478cd7ac_1432x1228.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>There are many limestones and sandstones. Here are just two examples to give you a sense. <a href="https://www.fiorantina.com/stock-online/limestone-and-sandstone/">Source</a>.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Both are easy to work <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-ancient-metals-started-civilization">with copper tools</a>, and hold up well when compressed, so they&#8217;re ideal to cut and stack as blocks to form shapes. Which is why Egyptian blocks are so geometrically accurate, unlike those in Mycenae:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!31Df!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1eaab814-772f-46ef-bef1-9f90bd11774b_2048x1362.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!31Df!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1eaab814-772f-46ef-bef1-9f90bd11774b_2048x1362.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!31Df!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1eaab814-772f-46ef-bef1-9f90bd11774b_2048x1362.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!31Df!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1eaab814-772f-46ef-bef1-9f90bd11774b_2048x1362.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!31Df!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1eaab814-772f-46ef-bef1-9f90bd11774b_2048x1362.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!31Df!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1eaab814-772f-46ef-bef1-9f90bd11774b_2048x1362.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/1eaab814-772f-46ef-bef1-9f90bd11774b_2048x1362.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!31Df!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1eaab814-772f-46ef-bef1-9f90bd11774b_2048x1362.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!31Df!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1eaab814-772f-46ef-bef1-9f90bd11774b_2048x1362.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!31Df!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1eaab814-772f-46ef-bef1-9f90bd11774b_2048x1362.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!31Df!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1eaab814-772f-46ef-bef1-9f90bd11774b_2048x1362.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Cyclopean masonry, backside of the Lion Gate, Mycenae, Greece</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>The grandiosity, the connection with the seasons and the cosmos&#8230; all of this fits well with the Ancient Egyptian mindset&#8212;a civilization that lasted thousands of years with very little change, because the geography is so stable:</p><ul><li><p>The Nile&#8217;s annual flooding, which was measurable, cyclical, drove all work, and generated the most wealth (and the food needed to survive!)</p></li><li><p>Isolated from other civilizations through desert and sea</p></li><li><p>Strong governmental control because it&#8217;s so easy to tax the Nile&#8217;s production, so state stability</p></li></ul><p>And that&#8217;s how you get the Egyptian Aesthetic:</p><ul><li><p>Mostly limestone and sandstone, and their ochre colors</p></li><li><p>Their tech was ideal for compression, not spanning, so no windows, no big indoor spaces</p></li><li><p>But lots of resources, so just pile up stuff and create many of the same thing</p></li><li><p>Focus it all on your grandiosity: <strong>big</strong> piles of stuff, <strong>long</strong> lines of columns/decorations, all along a strong, impressive line, aligned with the cosmos to create a sense of godlike legitimacy</p></li><li><p>Flat roofs: just protect against the Sun and its heat, not rain</p></li><li><p>Market yourself through messaging on the walls, mostly through carving, adding color when possible</p></li><li><p>It all fits the philosophy of the place: not dynamism, progress, or experimentation, but permanence, continuity, and repetition.</p></li></ul><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-geography-determines-architecture?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-geography-determines-architecture?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><h1>Ancient Greece</h1><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4o58!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf9b1f86-d168-48cf-99de-2006e549c9f8_1382x1378.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4o58!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf9b1f86-d168-48cf-99de-2006e549c9f8_1382x1378.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4o58!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf9b1f86-d168-48cf-99de-2006e549c9f8_1382x1378.png 848w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/bf9b1f86-d168-48cf-99de-2006e549c9f8_1382x1378.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:1378,&quot;width&quot;:1382,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4o58!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf9b1f86-d168-48cf-99de-2006e549c9f8_1382x1378.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>While Egypt is flat and desertic, on the other side of the Mediterranean, Greece is extremely mountainous.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d6Vo!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca45a5ce-da2b-4719-b0f2-6135f2e0d328_1660x1640.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d6Vo!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca45a5ce-da2b-4719-b0f2-6135f2e0d328_1660x1640.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d6Vo!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca45a5ce-da2b-4719-b0f2-6135f2e0d328_1660x1640.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d6Vo!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca45a5ce-da2b-4719-b0f2-6135f2e0d328_1660x1640.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d6Vo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca45a5ce-da2b-4719-b0f2-6135f2e0d328_1660x1640.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d6Vo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca45a5ce-da2b-4719-b0f2-6135f2e0d328_1660x1640.png" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d6Vo!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca45a5ce-da2b-4719-b0f2-6135f2e0d328_1660x1640.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d6Vo!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca45a5ce-da2b-4719-b0f2-6135f2e0d328_1660x1640.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d6Vo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca45a5ce-da2b-4719-b0f2-6135f2e0d328_1660x1640.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This is because Africa subsided for a long time below Eurasia, and <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-aftermath-of-tethys-death">pushed the mountains up on the European and Asian side.</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cnYd!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feddb75e6-b3d3-4dbb-8468-0bb68c1c5331_1468x1032.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cnYd!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feddb75e6-b3d3-4dbb-8468-0bb68c1c5331_1468x1032.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cnYd!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feddb75e6-b3d3-4dbb-8468-0bb68c1c5331_1468x1032.png 848w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cnYd!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feddb75e6-b3d3-4dbb-8468-0bb68c1c5331_1468x1032.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cnYd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feddb75e6-b3d3-4dbb-8468-0bb68c1c5331_1468x1032.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cnYd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feddb75e6-b3d3-4dbb-8468-0bb68c1c5331_1468x1032.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>With so many mountains, Greece has abundant workable stone, including limestone, but also another type that was uncommon in Egypt&#8212;marble.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TsHN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F12ce4a1a-1653-4349-91fd-ac8b3a6b01b9_960x600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TsHN!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F12ce4a1a-1653-4349-91fd-ac8b3a6b01b9_960x600.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TsHN!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F12ce4a1a-1653-4349-91fd-ac8b3a6b01b9_960x600.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TsHN!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F12ce4a1a-1653-4349-91fd-ac8b3a6b01b9_960x600.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TsHN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F12ce4a1a-1653-4349-91fd-ac8b3a6b01b9_960x600.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TsHN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F12ce4a1a-1653-4349-91fd-ac8b3a6b01b9_960x600.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/12ce4a1a-1653-4349-91fd-ac8b3a6b01b9_960x600.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TsHN!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F12ce4a1a-1653-4349-91fd-ac8b3a6b01b9_960x600.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TsHN!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F12ce4a1a-1653-4349-91fd-ac8b3a6b01b9_960x600.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TsHN!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F12ce4a1a-1653-4349-91fd-ac8b3a6b01b9_960x600.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TsHN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F12ce4a1a-1653-4349-91fd-ac8b3a6b01b9_960x600.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenon">Athenian Parthenon</a> is made of marble</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Marble starts as limestone: shells and tiny marine organisms that are compressed together, with other particles that cement them and some void that forms between them. That makes it easy to carve, but you can&#8217;t use too much detail or your edges will round or chip.</p><p>When limestone goes deeper down inside the Earth, it gets more compressed and heated. These particles fuse into interlocked crystals. These are much harder to separate, so the stone is harder and breaks more cleanly, as crystals remain together. You can polish these crystals into a very smooth surface, and their varying angles will scatter light in different directions, making the stone shiny and luminous.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3hQ0!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F968270e7-2afc-4892-975d-5c5188dd9f4c_814x1068.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3hQ0!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F968270e7-2afc-4892-975d-5c5188dd9f4c_814x1068.png 424w, 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For example, notice the vertical lines on these columns? They&#8217;re called flutes.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qJeo!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05d7e60e-8e20-425f-9977-11ea6c81b347_2048x1448.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qJeo!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05d7e60e-8e20-425f-9977-11ea6c81b347_2048x1448.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qJeo!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05d7e60e-8e20-425f-9977-11ea6c81b347_2048x1448.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qJeo!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05d7e60e-8e20-425f-9977-11ea6c81b347_2048x1448.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qJeo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05d7e60e-8e20-425f-9977-11ea6c81b347_2048x1448.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qJeo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05d7e60e-8e20-425f-9977-11ea6c81b347_2048x1448.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/05d7e60e-8e20-425f-9977-11ea6c81b347_2048x1448.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qJeo!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05d7e60e-8e20-425f-9977-11ea6c81b347_2048x1448.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qJeo!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05d7e60e-8e20-425f-9977-11ea6c81b347_2048x1448.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qJeo!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05d7e60e-8e20-425f-9977-11ea6c81b347_2048x1448.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qJeo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05d7e60e-8e20-425f-9977-11ea6c81b347_2048x1448.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>In hard Mediterranean light, <em>small changes in depth </em>create strong shadows. Since the flutes surround the columns, the sun will hit different flutes differently, creating different shadows. Together, all these alternating lights and shadow lights give a sense of vertical elegance to the temples, multiplying the effect of the columns themselves.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pNZv!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F127104fa-5abb-4916-8c99-ac2f1ba3d1c2_1600x1059.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset image2-full-screen"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pNZv!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F127104fa-5abb-4916-8c99-ac2f1ba3d1c2_1600x1059.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Marble allows you to play with light and shadow much more than other types of stone.</p><p>Columns shouldn&#8217;t be perfectly straight, though, because the base carries more weight than the top, and the center tends to bulge because it&#8217;s not as supported as the top of the bottom, so the Greeks used <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entasis">entasis</a>:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pwj4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5deb0379-c033-405d-aeb4-46fa8c452da5_310x420.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="image-caption"><em>A gentle slope between the center of the column and the top made the columns stronger but also more elegant.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Notice the pediment, the triangular shape on top of the columns three pictures back? Why triangular? Because it had to hold a slanted roof to evacuate rain&#8212;something that was not needed in Egypt because it basically never rains there, given the difference in latitudes.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T3kG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feeb68dae-1a92-45f8-9659-67d783221f1c_1600x895.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T3kG!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feeb68dae-1a92-45f8-9659-67d783221f1c_1600x895.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T3kG!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feeb68dae-1a92-45f8-9659-67d783221f1c_1600x895.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T3kG!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feeb68dae-1a92-45f8-9659-67d783221f1c_1600x895.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T3kG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feeb68dae-1a92-45f8-9659-67d783221f1c_1600x895.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T3kG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feeb68dae-1a92-45f8-9659-67d783221f1c_1600x895.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/eeb68dae-1a92-45f8-9659-67d783221f1c_1600x895.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T3kG!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feeb68dae-1a92-45f8-9659-67d783221f1c_1600x895.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T3kG!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feeb68dae-1a92-45f8-9659-67d783221f1c_1600x895.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T3kG!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feeb68dae-1a92-45f8-9659-67d783221f1c_1600x895.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T3kG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feeb68dae-1a92-45f8-9659-67d783221f1c_1600x895.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Thankfully, Greece also has access to plenty of clay that could be fired for roof tiles, something that temples had at the time, which many people don&#8217;t realize because roofs crumble more than columns, so most Greek architecture doesn&#8217;t show them anymore.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HcBD!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fddaaab7e-2724-400f-9885-eaae350feee2_1920x1080.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HcBD!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fddaaab7e-2724-400f-9885-eaae350feee2_1920x1080.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HcBD!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fddaaab7e-2724-400f-9885-eaae350feee2_1920x1080.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HcBD!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fddaaab7e-2724-400f-9885-eaae350feee2_1920x1080.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HcBD!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fddaaab7e-2724-400f-9885-eaae350feee2_1920x1080.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HcBD!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fddaaab7e-2724-400f-9885-eaae350feee2_1920x1080.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ddaaab7e-2724-400f-9885-eaae350feee2_1920x1080.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HcBD!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fddaaab7e-2724-400f-9885-eaae350feee2_1920x1080.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HcBD!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fddaaab7e-2724-400f-9885-eaae350feee2_1920x1080.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HcBD!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fddaaab7e-2724-400f-9885-eaae350feee2_1920x1080.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HcBD!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fddaaab7e-2724-400f-9885-eaae350feee2_1920x1080.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/ancient-greek-temple-eafc6214e34b42ca875934b13536a731">Source</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>You need something to support that roof and pediment&#8212;the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lintel">lintel</a>, that horizontal beam that spans across columns.</p><p>And since we&#8217;re in the mountains here in Greece, the ground is uneven, so you need to place your temple on top of a platform to even it out, the stepped platform.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a></p><p>We have now rebuilt from first principles the most iconic aspects of Greek architecture.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZJAN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F90c6d2ea-1bca-4b96-bcb4-095ec37ead69_1881x927.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZJAN!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F90c6d2ea-1bca-4b96-bcb4-095ec37ead69_1881x927.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZJAN!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F90c6d2ea-1bca-4b96-bcb4-095ec37ead69_1881x927.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZJAN!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F90c6d2ea-1bca-4b96-bcb4-095ec37ead69_1881x927.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZJAN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F90c6d2ea-1bca-4b96-bcb4-095ec37ead69_1881x927.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZJAN!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F90c6d2ea-1bca-4b96-bcb4-095ec37ead69_1881x927.png" width="1200" height="591.7582417582418" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/90c6d2ea-1bca-4b96-bcb4-095ec37ead69_1881x927.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:718,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Notice another detail about this type of architecture:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-XhV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fae98005a-7286-49ba-96c4-816153c7e113_812x540.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-XhV!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fae98005a-7286-49ba-96c4-816153c7e113_812x540.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-XhV!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fae98005a-7286-49ba-96c4-816153c7e113_812x540.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-XhV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fae98005a-7286-49ba-96c4-816153c7e113_812x540.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-XhV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fae98005a-7286-49ba-96c4-816153c7e113_812x540.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-XhV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fae98005a-7286-49ba-96c4-816153c7e113_812x540.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ae98005a-7286-49ba-96c4-816153c7e113_812x540.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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can be cut with extreme precision. When two marble blocks are perfectly dressed, the contact surface is large, the friction is high, and compression loads transfer cleanly, preventing blocks from sliding.</p><p>Stonemasons realized they could make do without cement, which added a paste that was less elegant, uneven, and was actually bad for earthquakes&#8212;of which there are a fair amount in the region, if you recall the tectonics. With sufficient precision, dry contact is stronger than cement.</p><p>You can&#8217;t just pile blocks and hope they don&#8217;t move at all, though, especially during earthquakes, so masons carved a hole in the blocks and placed iron clamps to hold them together.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eBTY!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc81a338b-9760-4dbb-b842-2c8804a97e1c_526x526.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eBTY!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc81a338b-9760-4dbb-b842-2c8804a97e1c_526x526.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eBTY!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc81a338b-9760-4dbb-b842-2c8804a97e1c_526x526.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eBTY!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc81a338b-9760-4dbb-b842-2c8804a97e1c_526x526.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eBTY!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc81a338b-9760-4dbb-b842-2c8804a97e1c_526x526.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eBTY!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc81a338b-9760-4dbb-b842-2c8804a97e1c_526x526.png" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eBTY!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc81a338b-9760-4dbb-b842-2c8804a97e1c_526x526.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eBTY!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc81a338b-9760-4dbb-b842-2c8804a97e1c_526x526.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eBTY!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc81a338b-9760-4dbb-b842-2c8804a97e1c_526x526.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/14w66ht/ancient_metal_clamps_that_hold_giant_stone_blocks/">Source</a></em> </figcaption></figure></div><p>The post-and-lintel structure (columns with a beam on top of them) doesn&#8217;t allow for big indoor spaces, so these temples were not designed to hold lots of people, just the statue of the temple&#8217;s god and a few other artifacts.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GIv7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7b4825db-502f-4430-bdfd-bf7fc82e2e79_2048x1113.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GIv7!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7b4825db-502f-4430-bdfd-bf7fc82e2e79_2048x1113.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GIv7!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7b4825db-502f-4430-bdfd-bf7fc82e2e79_2048x1113.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GIv7!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7b4825db-502f-4430-bdfd-bf7fc82e2e79_2048x1113.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GIv7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7b4825db-502f-4430-bdfd-bf7fc82e2e79_2048x1113.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GIv7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7b4825db-502f-4430-bdfd-bf7fc82e2e79_2048x1113.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7b4825db-502f-4430-bdfd-bf7fc82e2e79_2048x1113.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GIv7!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7b4825db-502f-4430-bdfd-bf7fc82e2e79_2048x1113.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GIv7!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7b4825db-502f-4430-bdfd-bf7fc82e2e79_2048x1113.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GIv7!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7b4825db-502f-4430-bdfd-bf7fc82e2e79_2048x1113.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GIv7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7b4825db-502f-4430-bdfd-bf7fc82e2e79_2048x1113.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUbGem5-pMY</figcaption></figure></div><p>As a result, congregations happened outdoors. Altars were in front of the temples, and that&#8217;s where animal sacrifices were held.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9dHD!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9eecf045-43e3-4a85-8698-68e63e8313e1_380x214.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9dHD!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9eecf045-43e3-4a85-8698-68e63e8313e1_380x214.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9dHD!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9eecf045-43e3-4a85-8698-68e63e8313e1_380x214.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9dHD!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9eecf045-43e3-4a85-8698-68e63e8313e1_380x214.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9dHD!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9eecf045-43e3-4a85-8698-68e63e8313e1_380x214.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9dHD!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9eecf045-43e3-4a85-8698-68e63e8313e1_380x214.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9eecf045-43e3-4a85-8698-68e63e8313e1_380x214.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9dHD!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9eecf045-43e3-4a85-8698-68e63e8313e1_380x214.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9dHD!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9eecf045-43e3-4a85-8698-68e63e8313e1_380x214.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9dHD!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9eecf045-43e3-4a85-8698-68e63e8313e1_380x214.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9dHD!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9eecf045-43e3-4a85-8698-68e63e8313e1_380x214.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>A temple with an altar at the front. Probably not the Parthenon, since its front was paved with marble</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Why have a temple at all then? First, because it provided shade on hot days and cover on rainy days. Second, it was a way to convey wealth and success. This meant that the external appearance of the temple was more important than the inside. Hence the flutes and the entasis, and also all other kinds of decorations.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!E5uh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3da7a116-74c0-45c0-b3d5-4b800e523d06_448x246.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!E5uh!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3da7a116-74c0-45c0-b3d5-4b800e523d06_448x246.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!E5uh!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3da7a116-74c0-45c0-b3d5-4b800e523d06_448x246.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!E5uh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3da7a116-74c0-45c0-b3d5-4b800e523d06_448x246.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!E5uh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3da7a116-74c0-45c0-b3d5-4b800e523d06_448x246.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!E5uh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3da7a116-74c0-45c0-b3d5-4b800e523d06_448x246.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3da7a116-74c0-45c0-b3d5-4b800e523d06_448x246.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!E5uh!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3da7a116-74c0-45c0-b3d5-4b800e523d06_448x246.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!E5uh!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3da7a116-74c0-45c0-b3d5-4b800e523d06_448x246.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!E5uh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3da7a116-74c0-45c0-b3d5-4b800e523d06_448x246.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!E5uh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3da7a116-74c0-45c0-b3d5-4b800e523d06_448x246.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Greek capitals (the name given to the tops of columns). <a href="https://victoriafrederick.wordpress.com/2014/09/28/doric-ionic-and-corinthian-columns/">Source</a>.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Early on, the style of column tops was pretty basic (Doric), but as time went by, the Greeks explored ways to decorate them further without jeopardizing temple integrity. With the Ionic, and later Corinthian styles, they achieved thinner columns and added more flutes and decorations. The same was true of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frieze">friezes</a> above the columns.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yX5v!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17ba86b0-de21-42f0-8c2b-4c441e22950b_1656x740.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yX5v!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17ba86b0-de21-42f0-8c2b-4c441e22950b_1656x740.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yX5v!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17ba86b0-de21-42f0-8c2b-4c441e22950b_1656x740.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yX5v!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17ba86b0-de21-42f0-8c2b-4c441e22950b_1656x740.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yX5v!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17ba86b0-de21-42f0-8c2b-4c441e22950b_1656x740.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yX5v!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17ba86b0-de21-42f0-8c2b-4c441e22950b_1656x740.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/17ba86b0-de21-42f0-8c2b-4c441e22950b_1656x740.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yX5v!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17ba86b0-de21-42f0-8c2b-4c441e22950b_1656x740.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yX5v!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17ba86b0-de21-42f0-8c2b-4c441e22950b_1656x740.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yX5v!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17ba86b0-de21-42f0-8c2b-4c441e22950b_1656x740.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yX5v!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17ba86b0-de21-42f0-8c2b-4c441e22950b_1656x740.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://www.ysma.gr/en/educational-actions/lets-learn-play-and-create/above-the-columns-what/">Source</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>These styles evolved relatively fast, because architecture was one of the ways to compete with other Greek city-states, and there were many.</p><p>With so many mountains, Greece couldn&#8217;t connect overland easily, and ended up with lots of small valleys <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/geography-is-the-chessboard-of-history">developing semi-independent cities</a> in each.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KTHO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71b84301-e9ed-4b40-9f82-c408250e5d01_1600x1081.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KTHO!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71b84301-e9ed-4b40-9f82-c408250e5d01_1600x1081.png 424w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/71b84301-e9ed-4b40-9f82-c408250e5d01_1600x1081.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KTHO!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71b84301-e9ed-4b40-9f82-c408250e5d01_1600x1081.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KTHO!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71b84301-e9ed-4b40-9f82-c408250e5d01_1600x1081.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KTHO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71b84301-e9ed-4b40-9f82-c408250e5d01_1600x1081.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KTHO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71b84301-e9ed-4b40-9f82-c408250e5d01_1600x1081.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>You can see some of them if you zoom in on the region:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ehk2!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee42b1d3-993d-415e-9d5a-9471487a62d8_1600x1232.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ehk2!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee42b1d3-993d-415e-9d5a-9471487a62d8_1600x1232.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ehk2!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee42b1d3-993d-415e-9d5a-9471487a62d8_1600x1232.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ehk2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee42b1d3-993d-415e-9d5a-9471487a62d8_1600x1232.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ehk2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee42b1d3-993d-415e-9d5a-9471487a62d8_1600x1232.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ehk2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee42b1d3-993d-415e-9d5a-9471487a62d8_1600x1232.png" width="1456" height="1121" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>As erosion carries sediment from the mountains, it accumulates in alluvial plains in between. Each one of them formed an independent nation-state. Here, you can see Athens to the northeast, Sparta to the south, Argos and Corinth in between.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>I assume that most architecture at the time was trial and error, but errors in architecture are bad, so when builders found new, better shapes, others would adopt the same recipe without questioning it too much, and this resulted in pretty standardized sizes for any architectural element: column height, width, spacing, size of pediments, of friezes&#8230; everything.</p><p>We can see how so many aspects of Ancient Greek architecture are direct results of the region&#8217;s geography (and the technology they had at the time): mountains, sunlight, and infrequent rains:</p><ul><li><p>Mountains provided lots of stone, including marble, which promoted the development of precision masonry</p></li><li><p>Mountains are also uneven ground for construction, so Greeks developed bases (crepidoma) of one or more levels for their buildings</p></li><li><p>The harsh sun necessitated shade, which required columns to support a roof</p></li><li><p>The harsh sun, together with precision masonry, pushed the aesthetic limits: flutes, capitals, friezes, perfect stone blocks, waiving cement</p></li><li><p>But since there&#8217;s also rain in the region, roofs had to be sloped, with tiles, which begat the triangular pediment</p></li><li><p>The technology was not advanced enough to allow for big indoor spaces though, so most ceremonies still happened outdoors.</p></li></ul><p>In other words: Although Greece is just across the Mediterranean from Egypt, its slightly different geography (more mountains, more rain)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> brought a different architectural language.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-geography-determines-architecture?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/how-geography-determines-architecture?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p><em>This is enough for today. We&#8217;ve seen how geology determines the stone available, and how that drives the type of architecture that is possible and unfolds. In the next article, we&#8217;re going to move to Asia, and cover India, China, and Japan, and then we&#8217;re going to bring it home: Why are all buildings the same now, and how can we do them differently, if we wanted?</em></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>Subscribe now to receive it</em></p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>I got the idea for this section from <a href="https://www.amazon.com/-/en/Lewis-Dartnell-ebook/dp/B07HWZMHX8/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_es_US=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&amp;crid=Q26ADL3STLAG&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.jtVL_8qemxLeHOBWFASYb5Zl_t6Oni85e1JsTm2Gvb1twq43zHgim7W1QmCCUuSzQxMvQrw2QoDCCw-JOpL_CpgAg9HfMqGgqO0bzXGj1cm2utEN4gW_8atsok7L8P7DPaqZHctFRdv82Nac6GsCbEEql1-SN9WJ-JiZvDI9d8gGHsQIF_Aw9jkzPI0jqqf9.d4SpD7B4fbtmQQO19SqX_i_S6flLe6K5FDuESLXy7wA&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=lewis+dartnell+origins&amp;qid=1771852874&amp;sprefix=lewis+dartnell+oeigin%2Caps%2C209&amp;sr=8-1">Lewis Dartnell and his great book Origins</a>.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>We now mostly just see their structure, but in the past, some parts of the Egyptian sandstone and limestone walls were heavily decorated and colored. This detail has mostly washed away over time.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>Many of the typical Greek structures were first developed with limestone, and marble only helped push them to the extremes of perfect cut, perfect alignment, no need for cement, or perfect polish.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>The crepidoma was a base made of three steps</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>And slightly more advanced technology on average, as Egypt had been building temples and pyramids for literally thousands of years before Greece started building its most beautiful temples. For example, the time between the Giza Pyramids and the Parthenon is the same as the time between the creation of the Roman Empire and us. So the most famous Egyptian buildings used old technology. The Greeks inherited and then improved upon this type of Egyptian know-how.</em></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Future of Petrostates After Oil]]></title><description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s 2050, and petrostates around the world are in a mess of civil wars and failed states. What happened? Why? What can we do about it?]]></description><link>https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-future-of-petrostates-after-oil</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-future-of-petrostates-after-oil</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomas Pueyo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2026 13:03:38 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f0AA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b2eb3a4-ce70-4ff2-bdd5-4e0227c755d8_1614x1534.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s 2050, and the Middle East is a mess.</p><p>Iran is in the midst of a civil war between different factions of the IRGC and the military, the Muslim Brotherhood, the Kurds, and the Azeris.</p><p>In the northwest, the Kurds have established an independent state. They are de facto ruling the Kurdish parts of Syria and Iraq too, and are in a low-intensity conflict with Turkey.</p><p>Azerbaijan enlarged its surface area by taking parts of northwestern Iran, but now is engulfed in a civil war itself.</p><p>Iraq is split between the northeastern Kurdistan, western ISIS, and Sunni and Shia militias and mujahideen.</p><p>Hejaz has split from Saudi Arabia, and there&#8217;s a three-way war waging between them <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-resource-cliff">and the Houthis to the south, in Yemen</a>.</p><p>Syria, Jordan, and Lebanon are in a defense pact under Israel, trying to suppress Palestinian guerrilla warfare together.</p><p>The former rulers of Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Bahrain, and Equatorial Guinea all live in Dubai: They escaped from the coups in their countries. They financially support Dubai&#8217;s army in its fight to secede from Abu Dhabi, which has dramatically increased national taxes to make up for the loss of oil income.</p><p>Elsewhere in the world, Russia is now a failed state ruled by oligarchs fighting it out in Moscow neighborhoods. The Stans have moved closer to China, which is ruling de facto Russia&#8217;s easternmost Siberian regions. Belarus is now a neutral state, and is working to join the EU. Its strongest supporter is EU member Ukraine.</p><p>Venezuela and Cuba are now firmly under the US&#8217;s grasp. Iran and Russia can&#8217;t afford to prop them up anymore.</p><p>Nigeria, Congo, Chad, and Angola are failed states in constant civil war.</p><p>Nobody cares about any of these.</p><p>This might happen as oil demand peaks in a few years and then drops. How could we get there? How can we avoid it? This is what we&#8217;ll discuss today.</p><div><hr></div><p>We saw in the previous article that <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/peak-oil-is-coming">peak oil might come in the 2030s</a>, and within a couple of decades, demand might have plummeted due to renewables and batteries.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yp4O!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde9b4f72-e8c8-42d2-90cd-cdd03f243014_1489x1397.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yp4O!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde9b4f72-e8c8-42d2-90cd-cdd03f243014_1489x1397.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This is how dependent many countries are on oil and gas income:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TOE3!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2f9efbea-4d73-4acc-a07f-a41e9884a9ec_2048x1576.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TOE3!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2f9efbea-4d73-4acc-a07f-a41e9884a9ec_2048x1576.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TOE3!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2f9efbea-4d73-4acc-a07f-a41e9884a9ec_2048x1576.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TOE3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2f9efbea-4d73-4acc-a07f-a41e9884a9ec_2048x1576.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TOE3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2f9efbea-4d73-4acc-a07f-a41e9884a9ec_2048x1576.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TOE3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2f9efbea-4d73-4acc-a07f-a41e9884a9ec_2048x1576.png" 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same income level. As a fraction of the economy, the governments tower over the private sector and all other actors.</p><p>Also, all this wealth is concentrated in a few physical points of extraction, so if you control them, and the transit routes to transport the oil and gas to international markets, you control all the wealth. This is why virtually all the rulers of oil countries are authoritarian: The resource curse is especially salient in oil &amp; gas countries.</p><h2>The Oil Curse</h2><p>We showed how bad oil has been for democracy <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/venezuelas-excrement">in Venezuela</a>, but this is true across the world.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3V9t!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9826ab68-a5a3-4f5d-a2ac-82d281282825_1600x561.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3V9t!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9826ab68-a5a3-4f5d-a2ac-82d281282825_1600x561.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>In the Middle East and North Africa, the more democratic countries have more accountable governments, more freedom of the press, and more freedom of association: Morocco, Tunisia, Jordan, Lebanon, Turkey&#8230; The countries with lots of oil&#8212;Algeria, Libya, Iraq, Iran&#8230; have more authoritarian governments.</p><p>When a resource is easy to control and extract, whoever does the controlling also does the ruling, and they don&#8217;t need to share it with anybody. Well, just enough to keep people quiet and content. So corruption is rampant, inflation destroys other industries, citizens live off of government handouts, and these countries develop little else to offer to the world.</p><p>Countries where revenue comes from taxes rather than oil and gas are much more transparent, and spend their money on many more services than O&amp;G countries: Taxpayers demand accountability. They want to know where their hard-earned money is going, and they want to see the results. Meanwhile, in a resource-based government, citizens are just happy to get a share of the loot. They don&#8217;t complain too much, so they can keep suckling mama government&#8217;s tit.</p><p>The lack of transparency in O&amp;G countries leads to corruption and entrenched interests, because a lot of the revenue is hidden, so it can be diverted. Those who do the diverting accumulate the money and buy out allies, who keep them in power.</p><p>Since it&#8217;s bad optics to have much more income than spend, most of these countries update their spending in bonanza years. When commodity prices drop, their economies crash.</p><p>To avoid fiscal troughs that bring them down, they focus their spend on short-term initiatives, which means long-term infrastructure is not prioritized. When it is, revenue shortfalls means they might not be maintained, or even worse, they might be abandoned halfway through.</p><p>When the resource is exhausted, they have no fallback, and the country goes to ruin, as we saw in the previous article <em><a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-resource-cliff">The Resource Cliff</a></em>. Governments, without the money to finance their security apparatus, fall. This provides an opening to those who own the weapons to do the only thing they know to do&#8212;fight to capture what little power remains&#8230; and the country descends into civil war, like in Yemen.</p><p>Which countries are most exposed?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f0AA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b2eb3a4-ce70-4ff2-bdd5-4e0227c755d8_1614x1534.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f0AA!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b2eb3a4-ce70-4ff2-bdd5-4e0227c755d8_1614x1534.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f0AA!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b2eb3a4-ce70-4ff2-bdd5-4e0227c755d8_1614x1534.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f0AA!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b2eb3a4-ce70-4ff2-bdd5-4e0227c755d8_1614x1534.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f0AA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b2eb3a4-ce70-4ff2-bdd5-4e0227c755d8_1614x1534.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f0AA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b2eb3a4-ce70-4ff2-bdd5-4e0227c755d8_1614x1534.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4b2eb3a4-ce70-4ff2-bdd5-4e0227c755d8_1614x1534.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f0AA!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b2eb3a4-ce70-4ff2-bdd5-4e0227c755d8_1614x1534.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f0AA!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b2eb3a4-ce70-4ff2-bdd5-4e0227c755d8_1614x1534.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f0AA!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b2eb3a4-ce70-4ff2-bdd5-4e0227c755d8_1614x1534.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f0AA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b2eb3a4-ce70-4ff2-bdd5-4e0227c755d8_1614x1534.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Vulnerability of petrostates&#8217; total government revenues to reduced oil and gas demand. Note that the countries most exposed tend to be African. I would take this graph with a grain of salt though, as many points don&#8217;t fit my data. For example, Kuwait appears here as only having 20% of its government income from oil, but most <a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/kuwait-finance-minister-sees-boost-projects-diversification-under-parliament-2025-09-03/">sources</a> <a href="https://www.kuwaitembassy.org/about-kuwait/economy">suggest</a> it&#8217;s <a href="https://oxfordbusinessgroup.com/reports/kuwait/2022-report/economy/on-the-up-rising-oil-revenue-and-new-policy-developments-look-likely-to-unlock-investment-and-drive-private-sector-growth/">closer</a> to <a href="https://www.focus-economics.com/countries/kuwait/">90%</a>. Conversely, its oil is quite cheap to extract and process, so it will be among the last countries to lose its demand. Therefore, the country should be much farther right and to the bottom. <a href="https://carbontracker.org/reports/petrostates-of-decline/">Source</a>.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Now, imagine you&#8217;re the ruler of one of these countries. You know these things. What do you do?</p><h1>Petrostate Transition</h1><h3>1. Deny</h3><p>Many of these countries will deny this is happening. The OPEC (Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries) projections show an increase in overall demand for fossil fuels from now to 2045. Wishful thinking. Most of these countries won&#8217;t be properly prepared when this hits.</p><h3>2. Postpone</h3><p>Oil and gas countries and companies try to postpone the end of oil. The US under Trump is actually a great example&#8212;remember, <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/is-venezuelas-oil-worth-the-hassle">the US is the world&#8217;s largest oil producer</a>. <a href="https://theconversation.com/the-battle-over-a-global-energy-transition-is-on-between-petro-states-and-electro-states-heres-what-to-watch-for-in-2026-272205">In 2025</a>, Trump <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/us-taxpayers-will-pay-billions-in-new-fossil-fuel-subsidies-thanks-to-the-big-beautiful-bill/">increased subsidies</a> for fossil fuel producers, <a href="https://apnews.com/article/epa-power-plants-trump-coal-natural-gas-climate-b6421bf170e69b54a3ded2e575f1bc10">weakened environmental laws</a>, gutted Biden-era <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/04/trump-clean-energy-cuts-democrat-states">support for clean energy</a> and moved to <a href="https://edition.cnn.com/2025/12/22/climate/trump-offshore-wind-suspension-virginia">block clean energy projects</a>, even some that were near completion. The US <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/27/so-long-paris-u-s-officially-leaves-landmark-climate-pact-00746628">formally withdrew</a> from the Paris Agreement in January this year.</p><p>Academics <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1364032125000322">split</a> the strategies to fight the transition to renewable energies into two types:</p><ul><li><p>Pre-shift strategies, founded on explicit climate denial: spread doubt, question science, lobby, revolving doors<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a>.</p></li><li><p>Post-shift strategies: subtler forms of climate action delay through the readaptation of lobbying and revolving doors, the conviction that fossil fuels are irreplaceable (necessitarianism), the adoption of a green fa&#231;ade (greenwashing), and blame placement towards their consumers (strategic blame placement).</p></li></ul><p>I think these worked in the past, but not anymore: The engine of the transition is now economic; solar, wind, and batteries are just cheaper.</p><p>Personally, if I were a Middle Eastern government, the one thing I&#8217;d do to postpone the transition is to flood the market: The more oil I produce and sell, the lower the price, and the less competitive renewables become. I think this could postpone the twilight of fossil fuels by a few years or even decades, but I don&#8217;t think they would do it: This would drop the price of barrels, on which their finances depend. Also, at this point, it might be too late, as China has firmly decided to push this transition.</p><h3>3. Squeeze</h3><p>If you know your oil sales are about to vanish, you have two options:</p><ul><li><p>Agree with other oil providers to limit supply over demand, so that prices remain high for as long as you can.</p></li><li><p>Pump like there&#8217;s no tomorrow, so that you can extract as much value while you still can.</p></li></ul><p>According to <a href="https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w33207/w33207.pdf">this paper</a>, what will happen is the 2<sup>nd</sup> scenario. And it makes sense: It&#8217;s hard to keep dozens of countries limiting their production when they know their wealth is devaluing by the day. Also, if they kept prices up, that would only accelerate the transition to renewables.</p><p>So if I were a ruler of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, or the UAE and didn&#8217;t care about the environment, right now I would be investing to extract as much oil as possible, as fast as possible. Oil that remains now in the ground will remain in the ground.</p><h3>4. Try to Diversify</h3><p>This is the biggest way oil countries will fight the oil transition: If you know your golden goose is sick, you&#8217;ll try to find another one. They&#8217;re going to do it by buying foreign assets, investing in local projects, opening up to the world, and improving the productivity of their population.</p><h4>a. Diversify by Buying Foreign Assets</h4><p>The best example of this is Norway, which instead of spending its oil wealth, <a href="https://www.nbim.no/">invests it all</a>, and only spends <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_budgetary_rule?utm_source=chatgpt.com">3%</a> of the fund every year. The money is invested in assets across the world, mainly in the stock market.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a></p><p>But it&#8217;s not the only one. There are equivalents for <a href="https://oia.gov.om/en">Oman</a>, <a href="https://www.qia.qa/en/pages/default.aspx">Qatar</a><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Oil_Fund_of_Azerbaijan">Azerbaijan</a><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a>, <a href="https://sk.kz/?lang=en">Kazakhstan</a>, <a href="https://www.kia.gov.kw/">Kuwait</a><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a>, <a href="https://www.pif.gov.sa/en/">Saudi Arabia</a>&#8230; They invest across geographies and industries, from Chinese petrochemicals to French luxury to Silicon Valley startups to Indonesian mining. <a href="https://www.ft.com/content/e22b512e-f5c0-43d8-86ce-a9e014aa4e55">For example</a>:</p><blockquote><p><em>Saudi Arabia&#8217;s PIF </em>[Public Investment Fund]<em> has pumped $45bn into SoftBank&#8217;s Vision Fund in 2016 and $20bn into a Blackstone infrastructure fund the following year. In the years since, it has splashed the cash in a diverse range of sectors from electric-car maker Lucid to its controversial LIV Golf venture, a cruise liner group, mining, sports assets and gaming firms. It also poured tens of billions into US and European equity markets and injected $2bn into a private equity venture set up by Donald Trump&#8217;s son-in-law, Jared Kushner.</em></p></blockquote><p>The more these funds own a bit of everything, the less likely they are to lose all their money, and the more they will be able to rely on their returns for a steady future income.</p><p>Of course, they know the future of the world is in tech, so they focus on that a lot.</p><blockquote><p><em>In March 2024, the United Arab Emirates (UAE) created MGX, a tech-investment company with a target size of $100bn, which will invest in AI infrastructure, such as data centres and chips. It has also set up a $10bn AI venture-capital fund. In Saudi Arabia a number of different funds with a combined firepower of $240bn will splurge on AI, data centres and advanced manufacturing.</em></p><p><em>E&amp;, an Emirati telecoms company, will help to build part of a 45,000km-long subsea cable that makes its way around south Asia, Africa, the Mediterranean and Britain. A data-centre construction boom is under way, too, with the likes of Khazna, a unit of G42, and Damac, an Emirati property developer, building facilities.</em></p><p><em>Gulf companies are building data centres abroad, too. Damac is a longstanding business partner of Donald Trump, helping him manage golf courses in the Middle East (Hussain Sajwani, its boss, is known as the &#8220;Donald of Dubai&#8221;). On January 8th Mr Trump said that Damac would invest at least $20bn in data centres in America.</em></p><p><em>The Gulf recorded almost $8bn of foreign direct investment in tech infrastructure and another $2bn in software in 2024, up three-fold from 2017, according to fDi Markets, a data firm. Talent is moving, too. BCG, a consultancy, says that the AI talent pool in the UAE and Saudi Arabia has grown by over one-third and almost a fifth, respectively, since 2022.&#8212;</em><a href="https://www.economist.com/business/2025/01/16/can-the-gulf-states-become-tech-superpowers">The Economist</a></p></blockquote><h4>b. Diversify through Local Projects</h4><p>These countries realize they&#8217;ll need jobs for their citizens, too. They might also be wary of their foreign assets being seized. So they&#8217;re investing in national projects. The best example of this is Saudi Arabia&#8217;s <a href="https://www.pif.gov.sa/en/">Public Investment Fund</a>, with about one trillion USD to invest. Half of that is invested in Saudi assets, on projects summarized in its <a href="https://www.vision2030.gov.sa/en">Vision 2030</a>. We&#8217;ll talk about this when we cover the special case of Saudi Arabia&#8217;s future in an upcoming article.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h4>c. Diversify by Developing Their Citizens&#8217; Productivity</h4><p>But if these countries develop their citizens&#8217; abilities and make them more productive, maybe they can create as much wealth as what&#8217;s pumped from the ground today?</p><p>So these countries invest a lot in education and healthcare. Why do you think Saudi Arabia has started allowing women to work?<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!urw8!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b49b4a1-0654-473c-adef-9832029ecae6_1888x2048.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!urw8!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b49b4a1-0654-473c-adef-9832029ecae6_1888x2048.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!urw8!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b49b4a1-0654-473c-adef-9832029ecae6_1888x2048.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!urw8!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b49b4a1-0654-473c-adef-9832029ecae6_1888x2048.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!urw8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b49b4a1-0654-473c-adef-9832029ecae6_1888x2048.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!urw8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b49b4a1-0654-473c-adef-9832029ecae6_1888x2048.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4b49b4a1-0654-473c-adef-9832029ecae6_1888x2048.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!urw8!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b49b4a1-0654-473c-adef-9832029ecae6_1888x2048.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!urw8!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b49b4a1-0654-473c-adef-9832029ecae6_1888x2048.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!urw8!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b49b4a1-0654-473c-adef-9832029ecae6_1888x2048.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!urw8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b49b4a1-0654-473c-adef-9832029ecae6_1888x2048.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This is a great start, but it&#8217;s not enough. Take Kuwait for example, with over 90% of government income from oil. They&#8217;d need the tax base of the rest of the economy to grow by 1000% to make up for the loss of oil. Normal productivity gains are 2% per year, and that&#8217;s in a dynamic economy like the US&#8217;s. How are these oil countries supposed to get their unproductive citizens, who have never had to fight in a hypercompetitive labor market, to suddenly become superproductive? It would take more than a generation to get there!</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fXVJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F948be878-3286-485b-bb5a-622dfc7531ba_1854x628.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fXVJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F948be878-3286-485b-bb5a-622dfc7531ba_1854x628.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fXVJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F948be878-3286-485b-bb5a-622dfc7531ba_1854x628.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fXVJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F948be878-3286-485b-bb5a-622dfc7531ba_1854x628.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fXVJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F948be878-3286-485b-bb5a-622dfc7531ba_1854x628.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fXVJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F948be878-3286-485b-bb5a-622dfc7531ba_1854x628.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/948be878-3286-485b-bb5a-622dfc7531ba_1854x628.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fXVJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F948be878-3286-485b-bb5a-622dfc7531ba_1854x628.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fXVJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F948be878-3286-485b-bb5a-622dfc7531ba_1854x628.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fXVJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F948be878-3286-485b-bb5a-622dfc7531ba_1854x628.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fXVJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F948be878-3286-485b-bb5a-622dfc7531ba_1854x628.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>From the <a href="https://planipolis.iiep.unesco.org/sites/default/files/ressources/saudi_arabia_ntp_en.pdf">Saudi National Transformation Program 2020</a>: They aim to train one million Saudis!</em></figcaption></figure></div><h4>d. Diversify by Opening to the World</h4><p>So one way to make up for it is to learn from the best: Welcome foreigners who can bring their know-how. This is the context in which many of these countries now allow alcohol consumption, despite being haram<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a>. But why would foreigners go to countries like Saudi, Oman, Qatar, Iraq, or Kuwait, knowing they prioritize their own citizens? Wouldn&#8217;t they prefer going to Dubai, which has a track-record of openness, tolerance, and low taxes?</p><p>But foreigners don&#8217;t need to move for work to add value. They can also visit as tourists, and that&#8217;s why so many of these countries invest in this industry. Why do you think Abu Dhabi has a Louvre Museum?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zL-C!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b5c7c89-7761-48a2-be06-f18173ffaccf_909x606.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zL-C!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b5c7c89-7761-48a2-be06-f18173ffaccf_909x606.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zL-C!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b5c7c89-7761-48a2-be06-f18173ffaccf_909x606.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zL-C!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b5c7c89-7761-48a2-be06-f18173ffaccf_909x606.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zL-C!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b5c7c89-7761-48a2-be06-f18173ffaccf_909x606.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zL-C!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b5c7c89-7761-48a2-be06-f18173ffaccf_909x606.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9b5c7c89-7761-48a2-be06-f18173ffaccf_909x606.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zL-C!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b5c7c89-7761-48a2-be06-f18173ffaccf_909x606.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zL-C!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b5c7c89-7761-48a2-be06-f18173ffaccf_909x606.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zL-C!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b5c7c89-7761-48a2-be06-f18173ffaccf_909x606.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zL-C!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b5c7c89-7761-48a2-be06-f18173ffaccf_909x606.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://theabudhabipass.com/attractions/louvre-museum-abu-dhabi">Source</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>It&#8217;s amazing, by the way. And so is teamLab&#8217;s installation there.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7LTj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16cc7757-8e86-40b0-99b2-69cf6e9a482f_1196x1600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7LTj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16cc7757-8e86-40b0-99b2-69cf6e9a482f_1196x1600.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7LTj!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16cc7757-8e86-40b0-99b2-69cf6e9a482f_1196x1600.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7LTj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16cc7757-8e86-40b0-99b2-69cf6e9a482f_1196x1600.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7LTj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16cc7757-8e86-40b0-99b2-69cf6e9a482f_1196x1600.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7LTj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16cc7757-8e86-40b0-99b2-69cf6e9a482f_1196x1600.png" width="578" height="773.2441471571906" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/16cc7757-8e86-40b0-99b2-69cf6e9a482f_1196x1600.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1600,&quot;width&quot;:1196,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:578,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7LTj!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16cc7757-8e86-40b0-99b2-69cf6e9a482f_1196x1600.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7LTj!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16cc7757-8e86-40b0-99b2-69cf6e9a482f_1196x1600.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7LTj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16cc7757-8e86-40b0-99b2-69cf6e9a482f_1196x1600.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7LTj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16cc7757-8e86-40b0-99b2-69cf6e9a482f_1196x1600.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Both of them are very impressive. I visited Abu Dhabi twice last year and I plan to write an article about it. I took the picture above of teamLab&#8217;s installation.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Abu Dhabi wants a full cultural district with facilities like these in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saadiyat_Island">Saadiyat Island</a>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X7DW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f445979-dbb3-49d4-b87e-5e38e146533a_2048x1170.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X7DW!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f445979-dbb3-49d4-b87e-5e38e146533a_2048x1170.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X7DW!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f445979-dbb3-49d4-b87e-5e38e146533a_2048x1170.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X7DW!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f445979-dbb3-49d4-b87e-5e38e146533a_2048x1170.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X7DW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f445979-dbb3-49d4-b87e-5e38e146533a_2048x1170.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X7DW!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f445979-dbb3-49d4-b87e-5e38e146533a_2048x1170.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4f445979-dbb3-49d4-b87e-5e38e146533a_2048x1170.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X7DW!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f445979-dbb3-49d4-b87e-5e38e146533a_2048x1170.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X7DW!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f445979-dbb3-49d4-b87e-5e38e146533a_2048x1170.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X7DW!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f445979-dbb3-49d4-b87e-5e38e146533a_2048x1170.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X7DW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f445979-dbb3-49d4-b87e-5e38e146533a_2048x1170.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Vision for the <a href="https://scdabudhabi.ae/en">Saadiyat Island Cultural District</a>, At the bottom left, the Louvre. Many of these buildings are already built. </em></figcaption></figure></div><p>It has also recently built the Sheikh Zayed Grand Mosque, the Presidential Palace, Yas Island Attractions (Ferrari World, Warner Bros World, Yas Waterworld, Seaworld Abu Dhabi)... Abu Dhabi is among the most aggressive in this direction, but there are only so many trips people can take. Other countries will be competing for the same visitors.</p><p>What are the <a href="https://www.elibrary.imf.org/view/journals/066/2024/001/article-A001-en.xml">results of these efforts so far</a>? There&#8217;s some progress, but in most countries, not near enough to escape the black hole of the future fossil fuel crash,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a> so despite their diversification efforts, many will have to take more drastic measures, like selling assets and reducing costs.</p><h3>5. Sell Assets</h3><p>Oil prices have already shrunk by 40% since their peak in 2022.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a> As a result, many O&amp;G countries are already facing financial problems, and some have been forced to sell assets.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a> For example:</p><ul><li><p>Kuwait is planning to sell a $7B pipeline stake in February of this year.</p></li><li><p>Saudi Aramco plans to <a href="https://enterpriseam.com/ksa/issues/privatization-reset-targets-usd-64-bn-in-private-capex-by-2030/">raise $64B through privatizations</a> in the next five years, including a $4B power plant sale within weeks.</p></li><li><p>Oman is aiming at <a href="https://www.muscatdaily.com/2026/01/31/oia-targets-stake-sale-in-30-company-divestment-drive/">divesting from 30 companies</a>.</p></li><li><p>Nigeria is selling at least a <a href="https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/nigerias-nnpc-eyes-stake-sales-some-oil-gas-assets-invites-bids-document-shows-2025-12-29/">25% stake</a> in some oil and gas fields.</p></li><li><p>Angola plans to <a href="https://furtherafrica.com/2024/12/03/angolas-ambitious-privatisation-plan-2023-2026/">privatize over 70 companies</a>, including the <a href="https://www.dabafinance.com/en/news/angola-state-oil-firm-sonangol-eyes-30pc-sale-in-planned-ipo">sale of 30%</a> of the state oil company Sonangol in an IPO.</p></li><li><p>Kazakhstan&#8217;s sovereign fund plans to <a href="https://sk.kz/press-center/news/73491/?lang=en">divest from several state-run companies</a> to privatize them.</p></li></ul><p>This is good not just because it raises money for their states, but also because it professionalizes the management of the assets (making them more productive), reduces corruption and vested interests, and if it works well, it encourages foreigners to invest further in the countries.</p><p>The more prices fall, the more assets these countries will have to sell. Unfortunately, one-off sales might not be enough to cover ongoing spending.</p><h3>6. Reduce Costs</h3><p>So after trying to deny, and then postpone the reality of dwindling oil demand, they will try to squeeze oil sales, diversify their economy, and sell some assets. After all of that, most will still be short, so they will have to reduce their recurring costs pretty dramatically.</p><p>The first step is to shrink the share of citizens receiving benefits. This is what the new Kuwaiti emir <a href="https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/nri/latest-updates/stateless-overnight-kuwait-strips-tens-of-thousands-of-citizenship/articleshow/121388962.cms">has done</a>: He has stripped tens of thousands of Kuwaitis from their citizenship, to:</p><blockquote><p><em>&#8230;deliver Kuwait to its original people clean and free from impurities</em>.</p></blockquote><p>The following step? Reducing benefits to natives, including as education, healthcare, subsidies, civil servant jobs, and at some point, direct transfers.</p><p>That&#8217;s when people will revolt.</p><p>What will happen then?</p><h1>The Breakdown of the Current Order</h1><h3>1. More democracy</h3><p>Countries will have one of these options:</p><ol><li><p>Transition to democracy.</p></li><li><p>Keep an iron grip on their countries&#8217; politics. Become more authoritarian. Strengthen the secret police.</p></li></ol><p>It does look like countries tend to move towards democracy after they reach their peak oil production:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A7QD!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8260fea3-8edc-4033-96a2-8d27125d12f7_1946x1416.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A7QD!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8260fea3-8edc-4033-96a2-8d27125d12f7_1946x1416.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A7QD!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8260fea3-8edc-4033-96a2-8d27125d12f7_1946x1416.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A7QD!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8260fea3-8edc-4033-96a2-8d27125d12f7_1946x1416.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A7QD!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8260fea3-8edc-4033-96a2-8d27125d12f7_1946x1416.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A7QD!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8260fea3-8edc-4033-96a2-8d27125d12f7_1946x1416.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8260fea3-8edc-4033-96a2-8d27125d12f7_1946x1416.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A7QD!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8260fea3-8edc-4033-96a2-8d27125d12f7_1946x1416.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A7QD!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8260fea3-8edc-4033-96a2-8d27125d12f7_1946x1416.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A7QD!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8260fea3-8edc-4033-96a2-8d27125d12f7_1946x1416.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A7QD!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8260fea3-8edc-4033-96a2-8d27125d12f7_1946x1416.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><a href="https://www.cgdev.org/sites/default/files/declining-oil-production-leads-more-democratic-governments.pdf">Source</a></em></figcaption></figure></div><p>If I had to guess, this will be more common than people think:</p><ul><li><p>The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Spring">Arab Spring</a> showed that many people in the Middle East and North Africa want more democracy.</p></li><li><p>It&#8217;s not surprising, since many citizens from these countries have experienced the freedom and democracy of neighboring Europe.</p></li><li><p>Since then, mobile phones and social media have become widely accessible, increasing the flow of information from free countries towards more authoritarian ones.</p></li></ul><p><em>Inshallah.</em></p><h3>2. More Repression</h3><p>But in many countries, this transition won&#8217;t happen. So far, no country with as much oil wealth as Libya or Iraq, or even with half as much oil wealth as those, has ever made a successful transition to democracy.</p><p>Even if democratic elections are held, and the results are respected, those might well be the last meaningful elections, as whoever gains control of the central government is able to establish a kind of monopoly on power that precludes future challenges.</p><p>That&#8217;s <strong>if</strong> elections are held <em>and</em> <strong>if</strong> they&#8217;re respected.</p><h3>3. Failed states</h3><p>In many cases, internal conflict might prevail, people won&#8217;t agree on leadership, and they&#8217;ll fall into civil wars and states of anarchy.</p><p>Russia (the USSR) invaded Afghanistan when oil prices were high, it became a failed state when prices shrank, Putin could only consolidate power when oil prices started growing again, and he went to war with Georgia and annexed Crimea when they were highest.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4-Fm!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F998ad76a-55db-4457-adfe-e218b0b5512c_1701x963.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4-Fm!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F998ad76a-55db-4457-adfe-e218b0b5512c_1701x963.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4-Fm!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F998ad76a-55db-4457-adfe-e218b0b5512c_1701x963.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4-Fm!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F998ad76a-55db-4457-adfe-e218b0b5512c_1701x963.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4-Fm!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F998ad76a-55db-4457-adfe-e218b0b5512c_1701x963.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4-Fm!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F998ad76a-55db-4457-adfe-e218b0b5512c_1701x963.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/998ad76a-55db-4457-adfe-e218b0b5512c_1701x963.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4-Fm!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F998ad76a-55db-4457-adfe-e218b0b5512c_1701x963.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4-Fm!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F998ad76a-55db-4457-adfe-e218b0b5512c_1701x963.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4-Fm!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F998ad76a-55db-4457-adfe-e218b0b5512c_1701x963.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4-Fm!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F998ad76a-55db-4457-adfe-e218b0b5512c_1701x963.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>We <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-resource-cliff">saw something similar in Yemen</a>, where revenue grew after unification and when it shrank, civil war exploded. Libya has been in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_crisis">a civil war</a> ever since <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_Gaddafi">Gaddafi</a> was deposed in 2011.</p><h3>4. Less Global Islamic Influence</h3><p>Whether they become democracies or not, their revenue will dry up, and with it their influence initiatives.</p><p>Muslim-majority countries constitute only about 23% of all countries,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a> but by sheer coincidence, they control ~51% of oil exports. Not just in the Middle East. In sub-Saharan Africa (Chad, Sudan, Nigeria, which has a plurality of Muslims), South East Asia (Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei), Central Asia (Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan)...</p><p>Some of this revenue has been dedicated to projecting Islam around the world:</p><ul><li><p>Promotion of the practice and teaching of Islam, <a href="https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/etudes/join/2013/457136/EXPO-AFET_ET%282013%29457136_EN.pdf">especially Salafi / Wahhabi</a>:</p><ul><li><p>Mosque construction, including monumental ones</p></li><li><p>Religious schools</p></li><li><p>Islamic universities</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/world/giving-up-control-of-brussels-mosque-saudi-arabia-sends-a-signal-idUSKBN1FW0R2/">Imam salaries</a></p></li><li><p>Religious materials</p></li></ul></li><li><p>International Islamic organizations, such as the <a href="https://www.oic-oci.org/docdown/?docID=4352&amp;refID=1221">Organization of Islamic Cooperation</a>, the <a href="https://register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/en/charity-search?_uk_gov_ccew_onereg_charitydetails_web_portlet_CharityDetailsPortlet_objectiveId=A16038786&amp;_uk_gov_ccew_onereg_charitydetails_web_portlet_CharityDetailsPortlet_priv_r_p_mvcRenderCommandName=%2Ffull-print&amp;_uk_gov_ccew_onereg_charitydetails_web_portlet_CharityDetailsPortlet_priv_r_p_organisationNumber=5069572&amp;p_p_cacheability=cacheLevelPage&amp;p_p_id=uk_gov_ccew_onereg_charitydetails_web_portlet_CharityDetailsPortlet&amp;p_p_lifecycle=2&amp;p_p_mode=view&amp;p_p_resource_id=%2Faccounts-resource&amp;p_p_state=maximized">Muslim World League</a>, or the Islamic Development Bank</p></li><li><p>Islamist parties, such as Hamas, Hezbollah, or the Muslim Brotherhood</p></li><li><p>International media such as <a href="https://www.meed.com/al-jazeera-mouthpiece-for-the-middle-east/">Al Jazeera</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.oecd.org/content/dam/oecd/en/publications/reports/2025/06/development-co-operation-profiles_02ffa45c/saudi-arabia_4e2a52d1/8d6207ae-en.pdf">Disaster</a> relief and refugee aid</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FKYn!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf6d0fe8-bebc-443a-8790-0d1be75e1ba5_1024x770.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FKYn!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf6d0fe8-bebc-443a-8790-0d1be75e1ba5_1024x770.png 424w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FKYn!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf6d0fe8-bebc-443a-8790-0d1be75e1ba5_1024x770.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FKYn!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf6d0fe8-bebc-443a-8790-0d1be75e1ba5_1024x770.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FKYn!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf6d0fe8-bebc-443a-8790-0d1be75e1ba5_1024x770.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosque_of_Rome">Grand Mosque of Rome</a> is the largest mosque in the Western world, with room for 12,000 worshippers. The site was granted by the city of Rome. <a href="https://www.upi.com/Archives/1995/06/21/Romes-first-mosque-officially-opened/2120803707200/">$35M of the $50M</a> construction pricetag came from Saudi Arabia, with the rest coming from a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosque_of_Rome#Finances">series of other Muslim countries</a>, including Morocco, Turkey, Algeria, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Brunei, Egypt, Indonesia, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Libya, Malaysia, Mauritania, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Sudan, Tunisia, and Yemen.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>As these countries&#8217; incomes shrink, their international influence initiatives will shrink too&#8212;especially from the countries that become failed states.</p><p>What about changes elsewhere in the world?</p><h3>5. Russia Loses Superpower Status</h3><p>Russia is the one big superpower whose influence relies mainly on energy, as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Russia">30%</a> of the government&#8217;s revenue comes from it. Lose the energy, and the country becomes fiscally insolvent. No more military incursions into neighboring countries, no more use of force to bully satellite countries like Belarus or Kazakhstan. Russia will have to withdraw from Central Asia, and won&#8217;t be able to maintain its support of governments like those in Cuba or Venezuela.</p><p>This won&#8217;t happen immediately, though, as a big share of Russia&#8217;s income comes from gas, which will take longer to be replaced than oil.</p><h3>6. Small Countries Suffer Too</h3><p>So far, we&#8217;ve talked mostly about the Middle East and North Africa, but there are other oil producers in the world.</p><p><a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/venezuelas-excrement">Venezuela</a> will be particularly affected by the transition, as most of its government&#8217;s income comes from oil, but it&#8217;s expensive to extract, so this will be among the first countries where oil companies will stop investing. The country will be forced to diversify, and <a href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/venezuelas-excrement">some options</a> it has include mining and agriculture, like its neighbor Brazil.</p><p>Congo, Angola, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Azerbaijan, Brunei, Ecuador, and Nigeria are other countries that will see their coffers empty and will suffer tremendously. Expect some to become stronger democracies, and most to fall into civil war or into failed state status.</p><p>And as some players weaken, others strengthen.</p><h3>7. Energy Security for Consumers</h3><p>Structurally, oil suppliers and demanders were at odds:</p><ul><li><p>Democracies tend to develop faster, so they demand more oil</p></li><li><p>As we have seen, oil supply tends to produce authoritarian regimes</p></li><li><p>Democracies and authoritarian regimes tend to be at odds, because democracies challenge the monopoly on power of authoritarian regimes</p></li></ul><p>So the world evolved into authoritarian suppliers of oil and democratic demanders. For decades, these global politics have hit consumers:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XI_f!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea88d8f6-80af-4ebf-b85b-4b0cd769bb31_2048x1364.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XI_f!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea88d8f6-80af-4ebf-b85b-4b0cd769bb31_2048x1364.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XI_f!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea88d8f6-80af-4ebf-b85b-4b0cd769bb31_2048x1364.png 848w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XI_f!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea88d8f6-80af-4ebf-b85b-4b0cd769bb31_2048x1364.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XI_f!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea88d8f6-80af-4ebf-b85b-4b0cd769bb31_2048x1364.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XI_f!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea88d8f6-80af-4ebf-b85b-4b0cd769bb31_2048x1364.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>A long line of cars lined up for gas at a filling station on a Saturday night during the oil crisis of 1973, Brooklyn, New York City. </em></figcaption></figure></div><p>This will happen less and less, as wind and sunlight are much better distributed around the world.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OqAW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5953fb20-54fb-4ae0-b0f1-5bfe648d5295_2048x1143.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OqAW!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5953fb20-54fb-4ae0-b0f1-5bfe648d5295_2048x1143.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OqAW!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5953fb20-54fb-4ae0-b0f1-5bfe648d5295_2048x1143.png 848w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5953fb20-54fb-4ae0-b0f1-5bfe648d5295_2048x1143.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OqAW!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5953fb20-54fb-4ae0-b0f1-5bfe648d5295_2048x1143.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OqAW!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5953fb20-54fb-4ae0-b0f1-5bfe648d5295_2048x1143.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OqAW!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5953fb20-54fb-4ae0-b0f1-5bfe648d5295_2048x1143.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OqAW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5953fb20-54fb-4ae0-b0f1-5bfe648d5295_2048x1143.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Not only will energy be more reliable, but it will also be <em>cheaper!</em> Yay!</p><h3>8. The Weakening of the US &#8211; Middle East Alliance</h3><p>Before the US was a net exporter of oil and gas, it depended on the Middle East&#8217;s fuels. Knowing this, the US developed a long-standing alliance with Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the UAE, and other oil producers in the region: They provided the oil, and the US provided the security.</p><p>Once the oil becomes less important, so will that alliance.</p><p>Middle Eastern countries will have to find new alliances. The obvious one is China&#8212;to whom Saudi Arabia sells more oil than to the US, for example. India is another partner these countries have been getting closer to. And, as the region becomes less relevant internationally, regional politics will become more important, with Israel as the biggest emerging power in the region (and maybe Iran if it frees itself from the current regime).</p><h3>9. China&#8217;s Power Rise</h3><p>China was one of the countries most weakened by the importance of oil and gas. Releasing the importance of these resources is a boon for the country.</p><p>Also, the US is the world&#8217;s maritime superpower, so it could control the chokepoints of oil and gas distribution.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H7jg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F568abc02-6cd4-4da3-a99c-cbdbc7112495_2048x1199.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H7jg!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F568abc02-6cd4-4da3-a99c-cbdbc7112495_2048x1199.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H7jg!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F568abc02-6cd4-4da3-a99c-cbdbc7112495_2048x1199.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H7jg!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F568abc02-6cd4-4da3-a99c-cbdbc7112495_2048x1199.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H7jg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F568abc02-6cd4-4da3-a99c-cbdbc7112495_2048x1199.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H7jg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F568abc02-6cd4-4da3-a99c-cbdbc7112495_2048x1199.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/568abc02-6cd4-4da3-a99c-cbdbc7112495_2048x1199.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H7jg!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F568abc02-6cd4-4da3-a99c-cbdbc7112495_2048x1199.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H7jg!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F568abc02-6cd4-4da3-a99c-cbdbc7112495_2048x1199.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H7jg!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F568abc02-6cd4-4da3-a99c-cbdbc7112495_2048x1199.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H7jg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F568abc02-6cd4-4da3-a99c-cbdbc7112495_2048x1199.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Shipping lanes of the Indian Ocean</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>But if oil doesn&#8217;t flow through these straits anymore, the US can&#8217;t threaten China with energy famine anymore.</p><p>China is also the biggest provider of solar panels and batteries, and one of the biggest producers of the rare-earth metals they require. It will gain a commensurate amount of power.</p><p>Now, solar panels and batteries aren&#8217;t as critical as oil and gas, because solar panels and batteries are a fixed cost that lasts decades, while O&amp;G are difficult and expensive to store, and are depleted with use, so they require ongoing purchases.</p><p>However, even if China excels at manufacturing, it&#8217;s not easy to keep these secrets under lock and key. Other countries could manufacture these products, even if not as cheaply. This reduces the leverage that China would have on other countries compared to what oil countries have today.</p><h3>10. Importance of Rare Earth Minerals?</h3><p>Today, China produces most of the world&#8217;s rare earth minerals, necessary for solar panels and batteries, among other things. But I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a long-term advantage: It&#8217;s not like these minerals only exist in China; it&#8217;s simply that China has been the most diligent in finding and mining them. The more China weaponizes their trade, the more other countries will look for these minerals&#8212;and find them.</p><h3>11. EU Energy Independence</h3><p>The EU is the other big importer of energy. It also produces solar panels, wind turbines, and batteries, albeit less than China. So it will gain the same benefits from the elimination of energy supply constraints as China.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-12" href="#footnote-12" target="_self">12</a></p><p>Another benefit of this transition for Europe will be the fact that it has been hobbled by the internal push to transition to green energy, which has brought it astronomical energy prices, and with those, industry has withered. As energy prices shrink and become similar to those in other countries, this disadvantage will fade.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-future-of-petrostates-after-oil?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/the-future-of-petrostates-after-oil?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><h1>Takeaways</h1><p>We are likely to reach Peak Oil in the next few years, and fossil fuel consumption will drop in the following decades, replaced by wind, solar, batteries, and electrification. When that happens, there will be big shifts in the world:</p><p><strong>For oil and gas countries:</strong></p><ul><li><p>They will try to fight this as much as possible, by pumping more oil, buying foreign assets, diversifying their economies, and attracting international talent and visitors.</p></li><li><p>This won&#8217;t be enough, and they&#8217;ll have to sell assets and reduce their costs, which will cause regime change:</p><ul><li><p>Democracy is likely to increase</p></li><li><p>Many will try to become more authoritarian</p></li><li><p>Some will become failed states</p></li></ul></li><li><p>The international influence of them all will dwindle. Since Islam is overrepresented in oil and gas countries, its influence will be particularly affected.</p></li><li><p>But the impact will not be limited to countries in the Middle East and North Africa. It will also affect others around the world, including Gabon, Angola, Nigeria, Brunei&#8230;</p></li><li><p>Russia&#8217;s superpower status will be challenged. It&#8217;s unlikely it will be able to maintain its sphere of influence.</p></li></ul><p><strong>For the rest:</strong></p><ul><li><p>Every consumer around the world will have more energy security. This is great for consumers.</p></li><li><p>The Middle East will shift its alliances, probably towards countries like China, India, and Israel.</p></li><li><p>China becomes the biggest winner, mainly because today it&#8217;s the country most weakened by this system and is working hard to position itself as a frontrunner of renewable energy technology.</p></li><li><p>Europe will be the other big winner, as it&#8217;s been hindered by its huge energy consumption, and the resulting high energy prices.</p></li></ul><p>Overall, I think these changes are good for freedom, for consumers, and for the world in general. This is exciting!</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>Next, I&#8217;ll dive deeper in the Saudi Arabian case (paywalled article). Subscribe to read it.</em></p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p> <em>Get ex-politicians to go work for oil &amp; gas countries, so they can use their influence to favor them.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em> It avoids Norwegian assets (as a way to diversify and reduce corruption), commodities, private equity, venture capital, and any leveraged investment.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar_Investment_Authority#Investments">Investments in</a> French assets, China, petrochemicals, real estate, media, telecom, retail (e.g. it owns Harrod&#8217;s), and AI (e.g. it invested in xAI). It owns big stakes in Volkswagen and London Heathrow Airport.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em> Apparently it focuses a lot on energy and infrastructure.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em> It looks like it invests <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuwait_Investment_Authority">mainly in financial institutions</a></em>.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p> <em>Since 2011, they&#8217;ve been able to access more and more industries, they don&#8217;t need permission from male guardians to work, they can drive, they can&#8217;t be discriminated against, they can hold jobs previously considered too dangerous&#8230;</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em> Forbidden in Islam</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p> <em><a href="https://www.elibrary.imf.org/view/journals/066/2024/001/article-A001-en.xml">According to the IMF</a>, this is encouraging:I fear this is not enough.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p> <em>With the war in Iran right now, prices are climbing fast. Right now we&#8217;re 35% below the peak, but in the budgets of the last year, it was closer to 40-45%.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p> <em>Or debt on their assets</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em> Muslims are about 30% of the world&#8217;s population.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-12" href="#footnote-anchor-12" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">12</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em> Even though Europe exports less solar, wind, and battery energy as China, so it stands to gain a bit less than China.</em></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item></channel></rss>