Thanks so much for these articles-- lots of great information. However, you state near the beginning that "To this day, neither Hamas nor Fatah—in power in Gaza and the West Bank respectively—publicly accept Israel’s right to exist..." But you must know this is not true of Fatah? In the 1990s, the PLO, led by Fatah, renounced armed strug…
Thanks so much for these articles-- lots of great information. However, you state near the beginning that "To this day, neither Hamas nor Fatah—in power in Gaza and the West Bank respectively—publicly accept Israel’s right to exist..." But you must know this is not true of Fatah? In the 1990s, the PLO, led by Fatah, renounced armed struggle and supported UNSC 242, which called for a two-state solution back in 1967, and the PLO engaged in and signed the Oslo Accords (also in the 1990s) which recognize Israel. This fact is very important, and distinguishes Fatah from Hamas. Fatah has been a negotiating partner with Israel (perhaps to its detriment politically). To say they don't accept Israel's right to exist is just not true. I am surprised you wrote that. Please modify that sentence.
Fair enough. But until it is renounced, that is the policy. Fatah cooperates with Israel security forces in policing militants: their ongoing relationship with the IDF is in effect recognition. Of course, their general policy of cooperation loses them support among younger Palestinians especially. They don't get help from Netanyahu (& other right-wingers) who undercut Fatah by their continuing to build settlements (you delineated their strategy very well). The PM and his allies have also said that they must support Hamas in order to prevent a two-state solution -- in other words, they refuse to recognize Palestine's right to exist as a state and work to prevent its coming about. I can't imagine any politician on earth who has such limited choices as Mahmoud Abbas.
Who silences the Palestinian peace makers and why? How do they do this and with what tools? Zionist have a similiar problem. And the violence goes on and on and on.
You can consider PLA, PLO, PA, and Fatah the same conceptually. If you want to go into the weeds, the PA is the authority that is the main administrative authority of Palestine (now really just the WB), the PLO was the organization that sought independence from Israel (the PA was created by the Oslo Accords to split it from the PLO), the PLA is the armed branch of the PLO, and Fatah is the main party in the PA. AFAIK
Thanks so much for these articles-- lots of great information. However, you state near the beginning that "To this day, neither Hamas nor Fatah—in power in Gaza and the West Bank respectively—publicly accept Israel’s right to exist..." But you must know this is not true of Fatah? In the 1990s, the PLO, led by Fatah, renounced armed struggle and supported UNSC 242, which called for a two-state solution back in 1967, and the PLO engaged in and signed the Oslo Accords (also in the 1990s) which recognize Israel. This fact is very important, and distinguishes Fatah from Hamas. Fatah has been a negotiating partner with Israel (perhaps to its detriment politically). To say they don't accept Israel's right to exist is just not true. I am surprised you wrote that. Please modify that sentence.
Yes! Fatah *used to* recognize Israel
But I’ve been looking for such a statement now and I can’t find it!
It’s been 30 years since these talks, and you can never see Fatah say Israel has a right to exist.
If you find such statements please share them with me!
This is the kind of pernicious, disingenuous stuff that creates a toxic atmosphere.
Fair enough. But until it is renounced, that is the policy. Fatah cooperates with Israel security forces in policing militants: their ongoing relationship with the IDF is in effect recognition. Of course, their general policy of cooperation loses them support among younger Palestinians especially. They don't get help from Netanyahu (& other right-wingers) who undercut Fatah by their continuing to build settlements (you delineated their strategy very well). The PM and his allies have also said that they must support Hamas in order to prevent a two-state solution -- in other words, they refuse to recognize Palestine's right to exist as a state and work to prevent its coming about. I can't imagine any politician on earth who has such limited choices as Mahmoud Abbas.
I agree
I will go deep on this topic in the next arricle
Who silences the Palestinian peace makers and why? How do they do this and with what tools? Zionist have a similiar problem. And the violence goes on and on and on.
The PLO has revoked its recognition of Israel. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwip6M7amZSCAxUCkIkEHXZGAFcQFnoECA0QAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aljazeera.com%2Fopinions%2F2018%2F11%2F4%2Fwhy-did-the-plo-suspend-its-recognition-of-israel%23%3A~%3Atext%3DThe%2520Palestinian%2520Liberation%2520Organization%2520has%2Csecond%2520time%2520in%2520three%2520years.&usg=AOvVaw3C8p7ADUXMMKDF6RfFAyS4&opi=89978449
This article from 2018 says the revoke recognition frequently?
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2018/11/4/why-did-the-plo-suspend-its-recognition-of-israel
Not an expert, is the PLO and Fatah the same thing?
You can consider PLA, PLO, PA, and Fatah the same conceptually. If you want to go into the weeds, the PA is the authority that is the main administrative authority of Palestine (now really just the WB), the PLO was the organization that sought independence from Israel (the PA was created by the Oslo Accords to split it from the PLO), the PLA is the armed branch of the PLO, and Fatah is the main party in the PA. AFAIK